16 Hour Rule?
I drive a daycab & route with stores, set up for a 14 hour day. Our 'internal debate' is over the supposed 16 Hour Rule, where we are allowed one day a week to extend the workday to 16 hours, but not the driving hours, this remains at 11. Our dispatcher has been using this provision to put an additional drop or pickup on us, and we (drivers) are not getting through that this is mis-using the rule. For example, I had a 15 hour day Monday because of an added pick-up, then I had a flat tire on Wednesday, which also extended the day past 14 hours. We can't seem to get through to this idiot (dispatcher) that she is more or less, FORCING us to falsify our logbooks.
How can we address this problem, in a diplomatic and professional manner, since it is falling upon deaf ears? Steve |
Its not up to them....its up to you and your log book.
Run legal.... |
First off, there is no rule that says you can only work 14 hours, you can log line 4 time all you want! The 16 hour rule just lets you extend your 14 to 16, allowing you to drive but still only 11 hours total drive time.
Example: You start at 7AM Lets say by the time 9PM rolls around, you have driven a total of 9 hours, but you are delayed for some reason, and still need 2 hours to get back, now your 14 is up, but you can use the 16 hour rule to give you that extra 2 hours to get back. |
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You can use the 16-hour rule ONCE every seven days provide that you have started and stopped at your HOME terminal the past seven days. To the OP: That is what the 16 hour rule is for. Your company can extend your work day once a week. We have gone round and round on this rule to. I suggest that if you can, do what I did, take a route that has a lay-over. BAMM!!!!! No more 16 hour for you. Stayed over night somewhere once during the week:D. Quote:
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I just used the unforeseen circumstance as an example, I know it doesn't have to be an unforeseen circumstance.
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For use "Local Wussies", we can be dispatched on a "16 hour" day, provided we meet the requirerments:thumbsup: |
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As far as the rule you are quoting, you are mostly correct, but you left off an important part of it. |
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The rule being discussed is the 16 hour "exemption" for short haulers. The "adverse driving conditions" exemption is a specific animal. To be honest, I don't even know that it can be used by "local wusses," but if it can... it would still not allow an extension of the 14 hour clock UNLESS the local guy has not yet used his 16 hour exemption for that week. Now.... just what "important" part did I leave off? |
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§395.1 Scope of rules in this part. (b) Adverse driving conditions. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in §395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by §§395.3(a) or 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours in order to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo. |
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Rev.Vassago said:
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Once again, we have a situation where the FMCSR's are designed to accomodate LOCAL drivers, or SOLO drivers. The fact that they didn't clarify their postition for LONG HAUL drivers, shows that they think in terms of ONE DAY trips. They clearly made an "exemption" based on an expectation that the driver was on his LAST leg of the trip OR it was a ONE DAY trip. However, the fact remains that I did NOT leave out any important information when I corrected Double R's statement that OTR drivers could extend their 14 hour clock to 16. Since this was a thread about LOCAL WUSSES, I didn't feel the need to go into extravagant detail about the rules for OTR drivers and take the chance of confusing these "local wusses!" :lol2: I left that up to YOU! :clap: |
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Move to Cali. It's 12 & 16 straight across.
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I've heard such comments before, but I BELIEVE they apply to local or regional drivers who never drive outside of the state of CA. If so, it is not FAIR and responsible to tell OTR drivers that they can move to CA and drive under different rules IF they drive for an INTERSTATE carrier. |
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