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The only problem with "more information" is it gives more room for errors and fines. I say less is better and I only give the bare minimum on my logs. For example, I never write in "total mileage today, Home terminal address, 'from' and 'to' locations, or RECAP" none of which are required. I also don't keep a record of the 70 hours/8 days on the back of the book.
More to the point: If I go home on the 1st and take the 2nd and 3rd off then go to work on the 4th, I would log the place where I went off duty on the 1st. The next log page would say Feb 2 to 3, 2008 and would not show ANY locations since I am only required to show locations at "a change of duty". At the far right I would put 24ea. and for the total I would write 24ea. That way it's still a "24 hour log", and the "ea." clarifies that it is 24 for each day, not both days (like, DUH, I have to tell them?). I also use loose pages and if I make a mistake, I throw it out and re-do the whole page, so my logs always look nice and neat. I only keep 8 days of log pages with me, and each day when I start a new page, I take the 9th previous day and shove it into my pee bottle (if they want it bad enough...). I never have more than 8 total pages to show to any cop. Less pages=less potential mistakes. And the cops have looked at my logs, 4 times to be exact, and have never had a problem with them. |
And this is the reason the company I work for requires us to turn in 1 log for each 24 hour period!! It all depends on how the auditor of the day interprets the rules. Different auditors see the rules different so we simplified it, if you are off 2 days, you turn in 2 logs, if you are off 9 days, 9 logs.
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So pretty much to put this in simplier terms it should be like this:
2/17/08-1 day off duty St. Louis, Missouri 2/18/08-1 day off duty St. Louis, Missouri |
Originally Posted by thebaldeagle655
And this is the reason the company I work for requires us to turn in 1 log for each 24 hour period!! It all depends on how the auditor of the day interprets the rules. Different auditors see the rules different so we simplified it, if you are off 2 days, you turn in 2 logs, if you are off 9 days, 9 logs.
There's two things here; the law and what a company requires. They are very often different, I have found. But as long as what the company wants is within the boundaries of the law, I'm OK with that. |
Re: Off duty logs
Originally Posted by kona911
A couple months ago my company was audited and we had to change a few things around. The only one that bugs me is the off duty log page. I was taught in truck school and then did the same at gordon but now I'm supposedly doing it all wrong. Here's my question:
When you're off duty for 2 days I've always written 24 in the off duty line and then at the bottom written two days off. (example below) Now, we have to write 48 hrs for 2 days or 96 for 3 days and so on. I thought that each page was for 24hrs and the listing at the bottom signified that you were off duty for 24hr for days listed below. I'm not really sure if I'm explaining this wrong, but hopefully you can figure it out. Oh, and you're supposed to write "off duty in lincoln" which is our yard even though I live in a different city, rocklin. Can anyone help me out? [img]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/kona911/logbook.jpg[/img ] f)(10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24 hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record |
Off Duty status.
Originally Posted by Double L
So pretty much to put this in simpler terms it should be like this:
2/17/08-1 day off duty St. Louis, Missouri 2/18/08-1 day off duty St. Louis, Missouri You don't even need to put in: "St. Louis, Missouri", because there is no change of duty. But do whatever your company wants. |
Oh ok and I've seen a driver do it like this on one log:
12/18/08-12/19/08 2 days off duty St. Louis Missouri |
Originally Posted by Double L
Oh ok and I've seen a driver do it like this on one log:
12/18/08-12/19/08 2 days off duty St. Louis Missouri |
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by Double L
Oh ok and I've seen a driver do it like this on one log:
12/18/08-12/19/08 2 days off duty St. Louis Missouri (f)(10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24 hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record |
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by Double L
Oh ok and I've seen a driver do it like this on one log:
12/18/08-12/19/08 2 days off duty St. Louis Missouri (f)(10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24 hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record You draw a straight line across line 1 and enter 24 in the box adjacent, and NOTHING in the totals box for the day (to keep from confusing the computer! :roll: ) Most logs will have a box at the bottom to show HOW MANY DAYS (times this 24 hour entry) are "included." And, although the example in the J.J. Keller logbook doesn't show it, I was taught that you ARE required to enter the TERMINAL location out of which you are dispatched in the box at the bottom (where you normally show the shipper/commodity or manifest number. It doesn't matter if you are "off duty"and vacatiioning in GUAM..... you enter the city and state of your assigned TERMINAL. This is because THAT is the BASIS of your logging TIMES. Midnight in Guam is not the same as midnight in Omaha, but your logsheet is based on your TERMINAL time. |
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