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unkut2003 10-07-2007 09:56 AM

After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.


And to inform the curious, I'm just a normal driver that has ran a sideloader and 53ft. van for over 5 1/2 years for Coke. I was ALWAYS local, thus never needed to log, or pass a scale! SO, please don't flame me or hang me for my lack of knowledge. I'm learning as fast as I can.... day by day! I will pick up a current copy of the HOS/DOT Regs and study them in hopes to prevent further situations like these! Thanks for all the help and info too.... its really been beneficial to me! Oh, and to all the "Super Truckers", that laugh and smirk at the others, accept my apology for my mother NOT giving birth to me in a truck, giving me a DOT book instead of Cat In The Hat, play with drop+hooks instead of riding a bike, ect.... You truly are the pros and nobody will ever in a single lifetime find the time/arrogance to dispute that!!!

Fredog 10-07-2007 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.


And to inform the curious, I'm just a normal driver that has ran a sideloader and 53ft. van for over 5 1/2 years for Coke. I was ALWAYS local, thus never needed to log, or pass a scale! SO, please don't flame me or hang me for my lack of knowledge. I'm learning as fast as I can.... day by day! I will pick up a current copy of the HOS/DOT Regs and study them in hopes to prevent further situations like these! Thanks for all the help and info too.... its really been beneficial to me! Oh, and to all the "Super Truckers", that laugh and smirk at the others, accept my apology for my mother NOT giving birth to me in a truck, giving me a DOT book instead of Cat In The Hat, play with drop+hooks instead of riding a bike, ect.... You truly are the pros and nobody will ever in a single lifetime find the time/arrogance to dispute that!!!

so what are you doing now?

unkut2003 10-07-2007 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.


And to inform the curious, I'm just a normal driver that has ran a sideloader and 53ft. van for over 5 1/2 years for Coke. I was ALWAYS local, thus never needed to log, or pass a scale! SO, please don't flame me or hang me for my lack of knowledge. I'm learning as fast as I can.... day by day! I will pick up a current copy of the HOS/DOT Regs and study them in hopes to prevent further situations like these! Thanks for all the help and info too.... its really been beneficial to me! Oh, and to all the "Super Truckers", that laugh and smirk at the others, accept my apology for my mother NOT giving birth to me in a truck, giving me a DOT book instead of Cat In The Hat, play with drop+hooks instead of riding a bike, ect.... You truly are the pros and nobody will ever in a single lifetime find the time/arrogance to dispute that!!!

so what are you doing now?

Sittin on the couch, watchin the 3 lil' rugrats while their mom gets some rest. We spent the weekend at the Kalahari Waterpark Resort in Sandusky, OH... :D First family event in roughly 4-5 years... :shock: So needless to say we didn't get much rest at all! Plus the wife had a severe stomach ache, nausia, and the rest of the don't care to mention stuff, haha! All that led to not much sleep! But to be a little more specific, I'm looking on the FMCSA site for info, but its a little rough. I'd like to just get the handbook mentioned before, that way EVERYTHING is available at my fingertips.... when I need it!!! Why?

Fredog 10-07-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.


And to inform the curious, I'm just a normal driver that has ran a sideloader and 53ft. van for over 5 1/2 years for Coke. I was ALWAYS local, thus never needed to log, or pass a scale! SO, please don't flame me or hang me for my lack of knowledge. I'm learning as fast as I can.... day by day! I will pick up a current copy of the HOS/DOT Regs and study them in hopes to prevent further situations like these! Thanks for all the help and info too.... its really been beneficial to me! Oh, and to all the "Super Truckers", that laugh and smirk at the others, accept my apology for my mother NOT giving birth to me in a truck, giving me a DOT book instead of Cat In The Hat, play with drop+hooks instead of riding a bike, ect.... You truly are the pros and nobody will ever in a single lifetime find the time/arrogance to dispute that!!!

so what are you doing now?

Sittin on the couch, watchin the 3 lil' rugrats while their mom gets some rest. We spent the weekend at the Kalahari Waterpark Resort in Sandusky, OH... :D First family event in roughly 4-5 years... :shock: So needless to say we didn't get much rest at all! Plus the wife had a severe stomach ache, nausia, and the rest of the don't care to mention stuff, haha! All that led to not much sleep! But to be a little more specific, I'm looking on the FMCSA site for info, but its a little rough. I'd like to just get the handbook mentioned before, that way EVERYTHING is available at my fingertips.... when I need it!!! Why?


i just wondered what kind of driving you were currently doing, your employer should give you a regs book, or you can get it at any truckstop

unkut2003 10-07-2007 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.


And to inform the curious, I'm just a normal driver that has ran a sideloader and 53ft. van for over 5 1/2 years for Coke. I was ALWAYS local, thus never needed to log, or pass a scale! SO, please don't flame me or hang me for my lack of knowledge. I'm learning as fast as I can.... day by day! I will pick up a current copy of the HOS/DOT Regs and study them in hopes to prevent further situations like these! Thanks for all the help and info too.... its really been beneficial to me! Oh, and to all the "Super Truckers", that laugh and smirk at the others, accept my apology for my mother NOT giving birth to me in a truck, giving me a DOT book instead of Cat In The Hat, play with drop+hooks instead of riding a bike, ect.... You truly are the pros and nobody will ever in a single lifetime find the time/arrogance to dispute that!!!

so what are you doing now?

Sittin on the couch, watchin the 3 lil' rugrats while their mom gets some rest. We spent the weekend at the Kalahari Waterpark Resort in Sandusky, OH... :D First family event in roughly 4-5 years... :shock: So needless to say we didn't get much rest at all! Plus the wife had a severe stomach ache, nausia, and the rest of the don't care to mention stuff, haha! All that led to not much sleep! But to be a little more specific, I'm looking on the FMCSA site for info, but its a little rough. I'd like to just get the handbook mentioned before, that way EVERYTHING is available at my fingertips.... when I need it!!! Why?


i just wondered what kind of driving you were currently doing, your employer should give you a regs book, or you can get it at any truckstop

Oh, hahaha!!! Well welcome to my weekend anyways!!! I'm doing routes from an hour drive, up to 5ish hours 1 way. For instance, tomorrow I have a Toledo, OH to Dearborn, MI run which is roughly an hour 1 way, then a driver assisted unload which usually runs 2 hours or so, then another hourish back. Tuesday I have another Indy, IN run to Stephen Gould, live unload, and back..... this is usually a 11+ hour day.... driving the speedlimit of course... :wink:

Double R 10-07-2007 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.

As long as your line 3 is 11 or under, then you should be ok.

unkut2003 10-07-2007 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.

As long as your line 3 is 11 or under, then you should be ok.

I'll know for sure tomorrow when I get the book in front of me, but I wanna say it was 11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty... :?

Double R 10-07-2007 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.

As long as your line 3 is 11 or under, then you should be ok.

I'll know for sure tomorrow when I get the book in front of me, but I wanna say it was 11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty... :?

If it is 11.25 driving, then you are in violation and cannot claim the sixteen hour rule. If that is right, then I would have shut the truck down and called the company and tell that that:
A)They send someone out to drive the truck and you home
or
B)Who inform them that you are getting a motel room for the night at thier expense and that you would be in after you ten hour break.

11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty
16.25 hours for the day. You are in violation of both the 11/14 and could not even use the sixteen rule. You have to be under 11 hours on line 3 to use it and cannot have a total past 16 hours.

unkut2003 10-07-2007 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.

As long as your line 3 is 11 or under, then you should be ok.

I'll know for sure tomorrow when I get the book in front of me, but I wanna say it was 11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty... :?

If it is 11.25 driving, then you are in violation and cannot claim the sixteen hour rule. If that is right, then I would have shut the truck down and called the company and tell that that:
A)They send someone out to drive the truck and you home
or
B)Who inform them that you are getting a motel room for the night at thier expense and that you would be in after you ten hour break.

11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty
16.25 hours for the day. You are in violation of both the 11/14 and could not even use the sixteen rule. You have to be under 11 hours on line 3 to use it and cannot have a total past 16 hours.


It figures...... when it rains it pours! Sowhat do you feel my would be in my best intrests??? What should I write in the explanation section of the paperwork my company wants submitted???

Double R 10-07-2007 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003

Originally Posted by Double R

Originally Posted by unkut2003
After researching my options, I've decided I'll just claim the 16 Hour Exception, and pray they let it slide??? Other then that, I have no other explanation! Heres what I read about the rule, and also what I'll include with my statement.....

16-hour Exception - A property-carrying CMV driver may extend the 14-hour on-duty period by 2 additional hours once every 7 days if they:


Have been released from duty at their normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours;

Are released from duty at their normal work reporting location within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

Have not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except following a 34-hour restart of a 7/8-day period.

As long as your line 3 is 11 or under, then you should be ok.

I'll know for sure tomorrow when I get the book in front of me, but I wanna say it was 11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty... :?

If it is 11.25 driving, then you are in violation and cannot claim the sixteen hour rule. If that is right, then I would have shut the truck down and called the company and tell that that:
A)They send someone out to drive the truck and you home
or
B)Who inform them that you are getting a motel room for the night at thier expense and that you would be in after you ten hour break.

11.25hrs drivin, and another 5hrs of on duty
16.25 hours for the day. You are in violation of both the 11/14 and could not even use the sixteen rule. You have to be under 11 hours on line 3 to use it and cannot have a total past 16 hours.


It figures...... when it rains it pours! Sowhat do you feel my would be in my best intrests??? What should I write in the explanation section of the paperwork my company wants submitted???

Honestly, tell them that you screwed up at that next time you run out of hours and cannot make it back to the yard, that they can either send another drive out to get the truck and you or they can pay for a motel for the night.
Next time you know that you will not make it back in the time alloted, call and inform your company and give them those two options. If they are a good company and resepct the drivers, then you should be ok. If they tell you to drive back anyways, find another company to drive for.


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