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Originally Posted by century451
Still not a digital mode even though a digital signal may send the morse code for you.
"Morse code is the only digital modulation mode designed to be easily read by humans without a computer, making it appropriate for sending automated digital data in voice channels, as well as making it ideal for emergency signaling, such as by way of improvised energy sources that can be easily "keyed" such as by supplying and removing electric power (e.g. by switching a breaker on and off)." If not for Samuel Morse, the binary language we know today as digital would not exist. Binary is a series of 1's and 0's, on and off, or vice versa, cannot remember for sure. Morse Code is, and has been credited numberous times as being the original digital code. So if there is some clarification to the contrary that I am not seeing, please feel free to elaborate and quote your sources, please. Thank You |
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Originally Posted by century451
Still not a digital mode even though a digital signal may send the morse code for you.
"Morse code is the only digital modulation mode designed to be easily read by humans without a computer, making it appropriate for sending automated digital data in voice channels, as well as making it ideal for emergency signaling, such as by way of improvised energy sources that can be easily "keyed" such as by supplying and removing electric power (e.g. by switching a breaker on and off)." If not for Samuel Morse, the binary language we know today as digital would not exist. Binary is a series of 1's and 0's, on and off, or vice versa, cannot remember for sure. Morse Code is, and has been credited numberous times as being the original digital code. So if there is some clarification to the contrary that I am not seeing, please feel free to elaborate and quote your sources, please. Thank You Most of the "hams" are pretty much self-policed. In addition the FCC don't spend much time on either "ham radio" nor CB. As to antennas. I've build everything from an 80 meter 2 element beam to a quad 40 element array beam for moon bounce. In addition I build a dish wire stressed antenna for 2300 Mhz. Now on a different subject. The difference between a "binary" signal and an "morse code" signal has to do with element lenght. All "binary" signal have fixed lenght elements. The on time is equal to the off time. "Morse Code" on the other hand has different element lenghts. The lenght of the elements depends on which "morse code" is being used. A couple examples. In "American Morse" element lenght is composed of 9 lenghts. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Morse_code while "International Morse" is composed of 6 element lenghts. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code "Binary" See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_code as I said have fixed lenght elements. All elements have the same spacing (on time/off time). The number of characters depends on what what code is being used. "Baudot" was the first See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code then along came other codes such as "Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code" See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII plus many others. Your quote "Morse code is the only digital modulation mode designed to be easily read by humans without a computer, making it appropriate for sending automated digital data in voice channels, as well as making it ideal for emergency signaling, such as by way of improvised energy sources that can be easily "keyed" such as by supplying and removing electric power (e.g. by switching a breaker on and off)." As to "Samuel Morse" being the inventor of "morse code." He was a co-inventor with "Alfred Lewis Vail" See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Vail and the referenced article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code. kc0iv |
All this crap about the 10-meter radios makes me wanna go buy one and just drive around with it keyed up while listening to XM channel 150...
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Originally Posted by Malaki86
All this crap about the 10-meter radios makes me wanna go buy one and just drive around with it keyed up while listening to XM channel 150...
If it technical stuff bothers you, then don't read it. Go over to the jokes forum and screw up their day. |
GOOD! Just makes it easier for the authorities to CATCH you! If you think they WON'T bother you, then you haven't been reading the recent actions! The local hams will be more than GLAD to drop a dime if you play around on 10 Meters. That's the whole reason for these posts; to warn people away because it isn't like it used to be. PLENTY of warning letters being sent to companies! Somebody said something about no fines (yet). Well, what does it TAKE? If I got a WARNING letter from FCC, am I going to be so stupid as to NOT stop transmitting out of band? Every company thus far who HAS been sent a warning, has cooperated fully with FCC by making drivers get rid of the "10 Meter" radios, and issuing a BAN on such illegal equipment in their trucks. There have been drivers FIRED for disobeying this ban. So what else will it take? About the time some scofflaw DOES get hit with $10,000 fines, then it'll be crying time for sure! (And snickering time for those who have been interfered with by illegal operators who are so "big and bad" their sh-- don't stink!) :D
All the licensed people want is for folks to go back to the 40 channels where they belong and stay OFF where they don't belong! (10 Meters, etc) RR ************************************************** ********** FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION ENFORCEMENT BUREAU NORTHEAST REGION Detroit Office 24897 Hathaway Street Farmington Hills, Michigan 48375 August 16, 2007 (Sent via Certified Return Receipt Requested and First Class U.S. Mail) Seldon Turner Batavia, Ohio NOTICE OF UNLICENSED OPERATION Case Number: EB-07-DT-140 Document Number: W20073236006 The Detroit Office received information that your Citizens Band ("CB") Radio Service station was being operated illegally and causing interference in Batavia, Ohio. On May 16, 2007, an agent from this office inspected the radio station at your residence and confirmed that you were operating a Galaxy DX88HL radio in your vehicle and a galaxy Saturn in your home, which are non-certified CB transceivers. By using these non- certified transceivers, you voided your authority to operate this station. Radio stations must be licensed by the FCC pursuant to 47 U.S.C. S: 301. You are hereby warned that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a valid radio station authorization constitutes a violation of the Federal laws cited above and could subject the operator to severe penalties, including, but not limited to, substantial monetary fines, in rem arrest action against the offending radio equipment, and criminal sanctions including imprisonment. (see 47 U.S.C. S:S: 401, 501, 503 and 510). UNLICENSED OPERATION OF THIS RADIO STATION MUST BE DISCONTINUED IMMEDIATELY. You have ten (10) days from the date of this notice to respond regarding the operation of your CB station. Your response should be sent to the address in the letterhead and reference the listed case and document number. Under the Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. S: 552a(e)(3), we are informing you that the Commission's staff will use all relevant material information before it to determine what, if any, enforcement action is required to ensure your compliance with FCC Rules. This will include any information that you disclose in your reply. You may contact this office if you have any questions. James A. Bridgewater District Director Detroit Office Attachments: Excerpts from the Communications Act of 1934, As Amended Enforcement Bureau, "Inspection Fact Sheet", July 2003 In addition, you had the following non-certified CB transmitters in your home that could be easily hooked up for transmitting: Delta Force Magnum and a Mirage 88. Also present in your home were the following CB radio frequency amplifiers: Homemade 200 and Lafayette Mobile. The CB radiofrequency amplifiers ("Linears") could easily be hooked up. The use of these devices also void your authority to operate. |
Call 1-800-RADIORAYHASNOLIFE !! :roll: :roll:
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Did you understand the difference that makes something digital or morse code?
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Originally Posted by RadioRay
Every company thus far who HAS been sent a warning, has cooperated fully with FCC by making drivers get rid of the "10 Meter" radios, and issuing a BAN on such illegal equipment in their trucks. There have been drivers FIRED for disobeying this ban. RR
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Originally Posted by Crash935
Originally Posted by RadioRay
Every company thus far who HAS been sent a warning, has cooperated fully with FCC by making drivers get rid of the "10 Meter" radios, and issuing a BAN on such illegal equipment in their trucks. There have been drivers FIRED for disobeying this ban. RR
And you belive that? 1. The companies have NO vested interest in supporting the illegal activity of its drivers when it clearly can result in large fines to the company itself. 2. The company is responsible for anything illegal in their trucks both regards equipment and the actions of its drivers. NO sane company is going to pay thousands for the actions of rogue drivers. They would not hesitate to FIRE a driver over this issue and at least ONE DID! (Cheetah Transportation) A defiant company risks getting not only FCC, but US DOT involved should they not take FCC's warnings (or fines) seriously. 3. The FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Enforcement IS a ham, so he, along with being a certified attorney, has a vested interest in seeing that companies comply with FCC directives and orders. I know this man pretty well (his hometown is about 30 miles from me) and he will NOT take kindly to having his official actions ignored. IOW, a company who gets a letter of warning, citation or fine had durned well BETTER respond to official FCC correspondence! Someone remarked that no "fines" had been issued to trucking companies (yet), let me tell you, ignoring ANY FCC letter, request for information, warning, or action is a SURE-fire way to GET a fine. :shock: Let's say a company such as Smith above, or UPS (another company who got lettered) gets a letter of warning to which they must respond in 30 days (normal). Mr H. receives a call from the company asking what they must do to forstall further actions against the company. They will be told that they are to have ALL "10 Meter" radios, any other illegal equipment, other radios that allow for transmitting OFF the CB band without license removed. They then are srrongly advised to issue an internal policy memo to all drivers PROHIBITING these "10 Meter" radios in the company's trucks, with a copy forwarded to FCC's file. Now, a driver says, "I ain't gettin' rid of MY 'big' radio! The company can kiss my a--"! So he goes out and transmit again on the 10 Meter band, and a licensed amateur operator sees it and sends another complaint to FCC! NOW! The Feds have it on record that the company promised to remove the equipment and STOP the drivers from operating off CB. The next step is a visit from bonefide FCC agents to one or more terminals where it is very likely that a fine will ensue. Once again, it boils down to the fact that the companies have every reason to obey all US laws, they don't NEED any additional hassles from the law, ergo they are, according to FCC, very cooperative in having the illegal radios removed from their trucks. It is interesting to note that no companies have (to my knowledge) been caught twice twice transmitting on the 10 Meter band, and I assure you that, should this happen, the licensed operators would not hesitate to do their dead level best to urge the Feds to issue such fines! Is your JOB worth the risk? RR |
RadioRay,
I have to ask you RR are so naive to believe the FCC spends so much time on CB radio? Let's do a little number crunching. Would you agree there are well over a thousand of these illegal "10 meter" radios that are used by truckers? I really think there are a whole lot more. But let's say there are only 1000. Now lets make another assumption and say in the last 5 years the FCCs has written 50 of these letters to trucking companies. I don't think it is that high but say it is. That amounts to what? 5%. Now let's make another assumption. Lets assume every trucking company does indeed force their drivers to remove these illegal "10 meter" radios. Which I doubt would happen but again let's say it happen. What is the net effect? Nothing. In those 5 years there would be a gain of at least another 500 illegal "10 meter" radios. What you can say as a fact is the FCCs failed to enforce the laws back in the mid sixties when this illegal activity started. And to make matters worst they basically they still haven't done anything. As much as you would like this illegal activity to end it isn't going to happen. As I ask a couple of weeks ago show me one illegal "10 meter" radios used in a truck that has been fined. As of this dated it appears you haven't been able to produce a single example. Nor have you produced anything more than copies of letters sent to the companies. No follow-up at all. What I am pretty sure of is these companies responded to the FCC and that is as far as it went (or for a company like UPS they MIGHT post a notice on the board). Most of these safety directors wouldn't have a clue if a CB was illegal or legal. I know you RadioRay you live in your own little world where things happen the way you want them to happen. But in the real world it doesn't happen that way. Now you can continue posting to this board and the other boards you post on and everyone will have a laugh. But thing are not going to change. The horse got out of the barn and no amount of closing the door is going to get the horse back in the barn. kc0iv |
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