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Simply put The employer can not advise the employee in advance that a random is due until the employee is sent for testing. It makes no difference if he knows you can pass the test. Think about it for a moment. If you know in advance then it can't be a random unannounced test. As golfhobo said -- Your boss broke the law. Your boss should have waited until such time as you were free and not miss that load you spoke of. It not uncommon for companies to wait before the employee is told about the random. Most companies receive the notice well in advance so they can arrange for the employees to be free. As a side note. There are companies that select certain employees (knowing they will pass the test) while knowing other employees would fail. Your example and the one I just gave is why I think all employees should be tested and the notice should be given by an independent source. kc0iv |
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by the way, if my boss had any doubts about a driver being able to pass, he would get him in right away without any warning. we dont play that game,in 50 years in business, the company has never had a fatal accident and has never been sued. I think that says something. so lets leave it at this. he should have done it the way you are suppossed to, he didnt break the law but he did violate regulations. he didnt do it to get away with anything, he simply thinks that a random test for someone who he knows is clean is not worth missing a load for. |
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Those same rules and regulations don't say anything about penalties for violating the hours-of-service either but I can assure you any rule violation can be prosecuted. I do agree let's leave it to however you want to believe. I can see you have made up your mind and you are not going to accept the facts as they are written. Have a great day. kc0iv |
Too bad they just can put microchips under our skin. You can't fool the tests and 2 days does not make any difference: you cannot 'mask' against the new tests.
Firing and damaging ones records due to intentional 'fuzzy or mumbling communications' and making employee lose time and money is ridiculous. I'd be happy peeing in a jar every time I was at terminal for them. Obviously, every time the company wants to escape a liability, this tactic, dac, or even a hazmat misunderstanding are a driver's triple threat and intentional harassment. And there is no recourse the drivers (or any employees to a lesser degree) have against unjust career marks carved in stone on their record. All drivers are just happy to get it off their record and think think they won. They have just lost less, but in no way was fairly compensated for the intentional wrong doing. Hitler would have been proud of these tactics to manipulate his soldiers. You can systematically prevent undesirable behavior, or you can systematically harass and destroy careers. Any behavior tech knows negatively reinforcing behavior patterns has undesirable effects on overall employee population. duh! In other words, Fredog and his boss relationship is fully living up to the policy of the law. The procedures of the law stinks and are testing technology-wise outdated. The procedures are used to trap devients, not for the company to to trap honest employees they choose for whatever reason they rationalize whenever they want. |
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Any driver who has been driving for six years, as Mikee claims he had been, should know that there is no such thing as "a couple of days fair warning" on a drug test, nor is there any such thing as "I'll get to it tommorrow". He should have gone to take his drug test when he was told to. Personally, based upon the inconsistancies that I found in Mikee's IP, I'm really inclined to believe that there is a whole other side to this story that we haven't been told. I'm absolutely no fan of SWIFT, but I'll side with them on this one!! In any event, guess Mikee's been doing double-time at The Golden Arches, since we've not heard from him since he tried to "educate" me about HIPPA!! I STILL get a laugh looking back at that!! |
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lets beat this subject to death, I got nothing else to do right now. in our case, we are a small company, to get a drug test. we have to call the local doctor and get an appointment. I then have to park the truck at the yard and drive over to the doctor. so thats why I was told to get it the next time I was in, he want going to route me to the shop and make me miss a load. now if I had a wreck or was suspect, then that would have been entirely different |
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No one is beating the thread to death, Fredog!! No one is forced to read it nor is anyone forced to post. |
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some of the people on here act like they are forced to read every post. they complain about posts that dont interest them or dont agree with them, they way some of them complain, you would think they were truck drivers :lol: :rock: |
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