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I also thought I would take the heat off you and Rev and give it back to me. I was getting a little jealous even though my name is brought up all the time. I have always heard when someone is always talking about that means they love you :lol: |
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kjax wrote: speaking of the reset, how is that logged, exactly? I've been having issues with the person checking our logs, about the way I've been doing that, specifically with hours worked in previous days. Does the FMCSA have an example? I couldn't find one. Ok this is what I typed on page 2: It should be logged as it happened. If you were in the sleeper berth, then it should be logged as sleeper berth. If you got out of the truck, then it should be off duty. The 34 hour reset can be any combination of the two, as long as it isn't broken up with any on duty time. If you are referring to the recap (which I think you are), just zero it out after completing the 34 hour reset. That is the purpose of the reset - to zero out everything. But, that being said, do it as your safety department tells you to do it. Ok thanks I didn't read that when going back through. Keep in mind no one is going to believe you was in the sleeper 34 hours straight. DOT will question you on this Rev maybe you should understand what is being said in the paragraph and the last "statement" is a fact. I said if you are in the sleeper then log it in the sleeper. DOT will question you being in the sleeper for so many hours (I had drivers tell me they had 15 hours) without getting out. Is it possible to be in the sleeper that long, yeap if you are like me :lol: . But you better be ready to explain etc. 34 hours in the sleeper I better be sick or well set in that truck (which is possible as well). So I know what I said is true and accurate. Unfortunately you read it incorrectly and unfortunately you are giving drivers the impression it does not matter if you log 34 hours in the sleeper. I hope they can afford the ticket that goes with that fine. I guess when/if they get fined they will find out the hard way. Keep in mind no one is going to believe you was in the sleeper 34 hours straight. DOT will question you on this. Back to top |
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Besides, even IF a driver gets out of the truck during a 34 hour reset, he only needs to log it on line 1 if it takes more than 15 minutes. Anything less than 15 minutes does not require a line change. I know I can go to the bathroom in less than 15 minutes. Heck - if I really have to go, I can do it in 5! Quote:
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Using YOUR logic a driver would NOT be allow to show OFF-DUTY (line 1) anytime he/she was in a CMV. Yet the regulations says and I: Quote:
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address the case of a driver who is attempting to log OFF-DUTY while he/she has NOT been relieved of duty. Once a driver has been relieved from work this guidance no longer applies. The exception to this is the case where a driver performs work for another company. As a side note A driver DOES NOT have to be at his/her home terminal to be relieved of duty. SEE the example at http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...?section=395.8 Figure 3 GRAPH GRID FILLED IN. Along with the description of this log sheet discuss in this example. You will also notice there is no discussion as to if the driver (in the example) spent a portion of the time in the sleeper birth while he/she was OFF-DUTY. Once a driver has been relieved of duty ALL time spend is logged as OFF-DUTY (Line 1) and what a driver does during that time DOES NOT have to be recorded. With the exception noted above. I until someone can show me a driver is required to log what he/she is doing while OFF-DUTY I stand by my statement. Again with the exception noted above. kc0iv |
This is actually an area where the regs contradict themselves. I can use a CMV for personal conveyance, and log the time as "Off Duty", yet the reg specifically says that ANY time spent at the controls of a CMV are considered "ON DUTY" time.
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WOW!!! :shock: :shock: Talk about flogging a simple question into oblivion!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I read all of the posts, but got wore out about the time I got to the end of page 5... :shock: :? One thing I had not noticed up to that point was anyone pointing out that the taking advantage of the 34 hour restart can be restricted if your employer denies you the permission to utilize it. In other words: If your company puts it in writing that you do not have its permission to use that rule, you cannot do a 34 hour reset, and can only use the hours that you pick up each midnight. I've never heard of any company restricting the use of the 34 hour reset. 8) |
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