adding another truck.
 

so.. after much though leasing someone on to me would be a nightmare. i might be adding another driver to run for me. i was thinking of coming out of my truck but.. its older and i really don't want to deal with someone beating it up. its getting harder and harder to find a pre emissions truck. here is my though. get a DPF truck and eventually delete that. thoughts?

I was talking with a guy the other day who said that he has had better luck with the egr trucks. There are a few companies who will neutralize your DEF truck.

Um, that's illegal! If DOT goes inspecting and finds its not working when it's supposed to or your supposed to have one that isn't there now..........somebody is getting a ticket and or shutdown on the spot. Maybe the best hope is Trump gets in and he gets rid of the EPA and all their recent little laws!

funny.. my dad has 2 EGR trucks. one detroit and one ISX. the ISX has been amazing. 0 issues in almost 500k on it. tho.. it smokes a lot.. but 0 issues. now his detroit.. he just did a turbo and EGR in it. was causing a bunch of problems so far after that its been ok.
i get that but in the end i need a truck that makes money that isn't broken down all the time.

I understand that altering the DEF trucks could result in big fines. You would certainly be taking a risk. But, some think that it is worth it to reduce some of the major issues concerning the new engines. I still prefer the older engines. I am curious as to who might have had newer engines with few problems and whether you think that an egr or def would have fewer issues.

Understand firebird, just didn't want to see you go altering your emission stuff then get in big trouble and come back going WTF guys!!!!!!!! As long as you understand the risk and how DOT does look for that stuff at times. I don't like the neutered trucks either, they do seem to have issues a lot with a computer running the show now!

I don't own trucks with egr or def. If I did, I am not sure that I would alter them. But, there are some who will alter their equipment to avoid some of the issues associated with the newer emissions. I don't know if the dot would check the systems or not. It does seem to be a big risk. Then again, what about the new glider kits? If it is illegal to alter the emissions trucks, then how is it legal to purchase a glider kit that doesn't have any of the new emissions?

It's all about the EPA and what they approve. DOT will enforce EPA rules/laws. I have heard of people getting busted. Just like running around in a personal vehicle with the converter not in place. Regular police can cite you for that. In the wake of the whole Diesel-gate with VW, you have to assume any diesel vehicle is being looked at closer than ever before.

From what I hear, YOU cannot see what is deleted...........therefore neither can THEY,

since there were owners before you..................

Still illegal............if you get caught.................

You do realize they have equipment that can tell them that right? You know, an emission detector, aka the sniffer. They got equipment they don't like the public to know about.

Maybe they do where you are, but they dont anywhere along the route he is running.........the north eastern states are all broke, they look for the easy way to write a ticket, there are enought trucks running the east west (NY to Chicago) with other easy to spot violations that keep them plenty busy.

thats what i was kinda thinking about with the glider kits as well.
to be honest i'm just not sure. and the diesel gate was just differnt. that was a group of cars at once. not just one.
i'm kinda wondering if its like if you gut the cat on a car? its "there" just nothing in the middle.
yes. but my dirty old cat gets that that test every year for NY state and i'm told every time at idle its just as clean as a new truck. and i've seen the print out. going in a few weeks i'll get the results.
kind of. the normal route.. 0 that i can think of. NJ on 78 they do and on 287 they do. i've seen them put the sniffer in and when you drive by they have the raised sensors while driving though to roll though scales. but you brought up a good point. if it was there when you bought it i don't know about it

Yes, the sniffer isn't new, but they have other gadgets that can check trucks which they don't want truck drivers to wise up to and look for another way around the machines.

With a cat on a car, you don't have to see it, you can hear it if your used to a certain sound coming out. My pickup had the cat cleaned out after it came after part and stopped up the exhaust. It sounded different immediately, thankfully my county doesn't require emissions so it's still like that, no guts in the cat for 10 years now!

Why not just get a new or fairly new glider truck with a pre-emission engine in it? My 2013 FL is a glider with a factory reman pre-egr Detroit 60. Why screw around with getting someone else's pre-egr problem child or spending money deleting emissions stuff when you can get a new truck without that goofy emissions stuff. Is legal for operation in all but California.

they go an delete them here in new Zealand an far better mileage outa them