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LOAD IT 09-26-2009 01:16 PM

Please notify carriers, shippers, brokers about scam
 
These companies run by Henry, Tendry, Nas, and Al (go by names of Sonic Trans and or Able Logistics) has been defrauding truckers, shippers and brokers with a double brokering scheme. Loads are being accepted by a trucking company and then given to a second brokerage which double brokers the loads. The first truck usually, but not always, attempts to collect quick pay or an advance. The truck actually hauling the freight does not discover the fraud until they attempt to seek payment and cannot reach the broker anymore. The other scam is they will book a load and string the broker, shipper along to think the freight is moving across country when it has really been placed in storage in or near greater Los Angeles, Ca. They will be trying to get advances and partial payments all along and at some point they will charge the broker, shipper for the location where his freight has been placed in storage and the full invoice must be paid plus the storage fee. This has cause many problems for the industry. It is recommended that companies doing business with truckers or brokers be especially vigilant when contracting with companies. They have been calling us for loads from a Quebec number and recently a Las Vegas number 702-628-XXXX. Please be aware of this scam and mention it to as many people as you can.

GMAN 09-26-2009 02:16 PM

Do you know of anyone who has been burned by these people?

LOAD IT 09-26-2009 03:14 PM

They took a load from one of my customers that was to go from Yuma to Cleveland and they took it to Los Angeles. He said it cost him over $20000 considering the freight claim and the ransom and paying another carrier. I talked to a broker out of Florida, they were to take his load from Florida to Las Vegas and they took it to Los Angeles. They call my brokerage for loads a few times per week, we dont expose them, we just tell them the load is covered.

chris1 09-26-2009 03:25 PM

They are listed in ITS as holding loads hostage so why would anyone use them?

GMAN 09-26-2009 04:31 PM

Not all carriers will check out a broker before taking a load. And I would think that not all brokers check out carriers before giving them a load other than the basic information. That may be a reason some brokers won't give a load to a carrier who has not been in business a minimum amount of time. I know some of the major carriers won't even take a load from a broker who is not listed in the "Gold Book." Some won't even bother to check the broker's credit if they are not listed.

LOAD IT 09-26-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris1 (Post 463570)
They are listed in ITS as holding loads hostage so why would anyone use them?

Not everyone uses ITS, so my point is to put the word out. This makes booking freight harder for legitimate.

poster 09-27-2009 08:59 AM

a different broker case
Avetyan_08_25_09
If convicted of all charges, the defendants face a maximum of life imprisonment.

Bigmon 09-27-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 463584)
. That may be a reason some brokers won't give a load to a carrier who has not been in business a minimum amount of time. I know some of the major carriers won't even take a load from a broker who is not listed in the "Gold Book." Some won't even bother to check the broker's credit if they are not listed.


Kind of funny that Brokers have all this criteria for the Carrier and then offer them freight for .80 cpm.

GMAN 09-29-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigmon (Post 463693)
Kind of funny that Brokers have all this criteria for the Carrier and then offer them freight for .80 cpm.



They ask a lot for someone to haul their freight. I suppose they do have more concerns with their cheap rates. If they paid a decent rate they could get better and more responsible carriers.

chris1 09-29-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 463868)
They ask a lot for someone to haul their freight. I suppose they do have more concerns with their cheap rates. If they paid a decent rate they could get better and more responsible carriers.

So higher price equates better quality?


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