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team49 12-03-2008 03:56 AM

If you were me what would you do?
 
:confused: I grew up with trucks ,spending my summers going on trips hauling steel with my dad in the north east, driving the PA and Ohio turnpike when I was 15. Going in the Air Force and spending 27 years in a construction unit ( yes mostly drove trucks ie.flatbeds, van and low boys). I also owned a truck in the 80's hauling steel when I could. After I retired from the service I went to work overseas for about 4.5 years. Now there is no work and I decided to buy a truck and do what my friend s were doing , hauling containers. I figured that would get me back in the groove. So I bought an older pete and made sure I had everything I needed to go . physical, truck dot.d, hazmat. class a with doubles triples and tanker, new twic card(for port entry) BUT now here I sit. I have tried to put my truck on but most companies say that while I have plenty of experience the experience is TO OLD. I thought old was the definition of experience. I know that I have been out of the cab for 4.5 years but what has changed that I would not pick up? Do the trailers still go behind the cab? Is there any hope for me? don't profess to know everything but I really want this to work or I'll be back working overseas (not what I want). I have no payment and have the funds to keep a truck serviced. I also am ASE certified so I should be able to do alot of the service myself. WHAT AM I MISSING?
If my dad was around it would not be an issue but here I sit, help???

rank 12-03-2008 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by team49 (Post 427207)
I have tried to put my truck on but most companies say that while I have plenty of experience the experience is TO OLD.

Who have you applied to? Sounds to me like they prefer to have inexperience behind the wheel so they can pay him $.25 cpm. There may be some legitimate insurance reasons but nothing that a little refresher course wouldn't fix I am sure.

Are you sure you want to do this? Things are tight and about to get tighter. Can't you get the army to pay for some school or something?

If times were better, and if you're not too old, with your drop trailer experience you could probably get on with maverick or TMC as a company driver for a while then take a stab at it on your own when things get better. Sounds like you have the mechanic side of things locked up and that is a huge benefit to the guy who wants to go it alone.

EDIT: I just re-read your post. Sounds like you might be too old for TMC but you never know. They're probably laying off anyway. Just buy a used RGN and move equipment. Or find out how to move those wind turbines.

heavyhaulerss 12-03-2008 10:29 AM

I think you are a perfect candidate for trucking. i.m.o. though I do remember lately a lot of co's weather co, or o/o driver, stipulates must have verifiable exp last 3 years. so it does not seem to matter how many years under the belt. the most recent it seems to matter more . I got this info on this board looking at req. for flatbed trucking co's. best of luck.

team49 12-03-2008 12:15 PM

It seems that only experience in the last 2 yrs will work no matter how much experience you have. I would go to someone like tmc or maverick but I don't want to be a company driver, not that that is bad but I spent alot of my life going to places and doing things without the option of saying NO. At least with my own truck I have that option. Thanks

TomB985 12-03-2008 01:38 PM

Team49, not trying to be condecending...but why didn't you check this out BEFORE you bought the truck?:confused:

team49 12-03-2008 01:57 PM

I didn't think it was an issue. I did talk to the company I tried to lease on with before I bought the truck. They did not mention about my experience being to old until later, but I did not talk with safety person first. I am stuborn and will make this work. Thanks

LOAD IT 12-03-2008 08:26 PM

check out powersourcetrans.com, maybe you can put your tractor to work there until you get some recent experience, you might like it.

team49 12-03-2008 10:45 PM

I talked to them but my EXPERIENCE is to old!?! I never worked 48 states either. Thats ok because I would rather stay regional anyway(southeast). Thanks for the advise though

floored 12-04-2008 02:42 PM

Get own authority, get trailer. Carry on.

Seriously, if there's a will there's a way. BOL :)

GMAN 12-05-2008 10:41 AM

You may check with some of these larger carriers who do training and see if you could run with a trainer for a few weeks and then lease you on. Much of the reason carriers won't lease you on is due to their insurance company requirements. If you have kept your CDL up since you last drove then that is about all insurance companies usually check. They want to know that you have held your license for at least a couple of years.

GMAN 12-05-2008 10:50 AM

You could do as Floored suggested and get your own authority. It is not something that I would normally recommend starting out, but if you need income and have already bought a truck then that may be your best option. One thing to keep in mind should you pursue this action is that it will take a few weeks to get through all of the paperwork. If you decide to run your authority it would be best to buy a trailer.

team49 12-05-2008 11:49 AM

Yes I have kept my cdl as I have used it to haul equipment for the national guard to hurricanes and such. I have been thinking about getting my own authority but dont have confidence in my ability to stay loaded and get paid. I do realize the insurance companies are mostly the cause.

Thanks for the advise.

heavyhaulerss 12-05-2008 12:10 PM

I am not saying you should do this or not do this. but... do you have a friend or relative at a co with o.t.r trucks that would say you drove there the last few years. I know of an o/o who leased to a co & did it this way & he figured it out as he drove along. he had exp too just not driven last 5 years. so yes he
lied. but he has done well & now no matter what, he does have the actual current exp needed.

team49 12-05-2008 01:54 PM

that is something we have talked about.

thank you

GMAN 12-06-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by team49 (Post 427508)
Yes I have kept my cdl as I have used it to haul equipment for the national guard to hurricanes and such. I have been thinking about getting my own authority but dont have confidence in my ability to stay loaded and get paid. I do realize the insurance companies are mostly the cause.

Thanks for the advise.



Most insurance companies check to see how long you have held your CDL. Although my insurance company has asked for the names and length of employment I don't think they have actually called them. In fact, my insurance agent told me that they won't call driver's former employers to verify experience. Potential employers will contact your references to verify experience. We are required to check for the last three years. I usually go back further with any new applicant.

You could get your authority. Unless you have a decent amount of capital it may not be the best time to jump into that side of the business. It is a real challenge for most carriers to keep their trucks rolling these days. You find more of them sitting between loads. If you plan on getting your authority I suggest you buy a trailer. It is much easier to find freight. There are power only shippers but you can lose out on many better paying loads without having a trailer. There are load boards you can subscribe. Some brokers offer quick pay which is a way to get your money early without having to wait 30+ days. There are also factors who will advance money on receivables or outright purchase them. There are ways in which to do this, but there is an element of risk as with any business. The advantage you have leasing on to a carrier as opposed to running your own authority are the larger freight base of an established carrier and you don't have to worry about whether you will be paid. The carrier will also handle all paperwork. There can be advantages to doing both.


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