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Malaki86 11-23-2008 10:18 PM

Planning expenses
 
I'm trying to work out the best way to calculate the truck expenses and break it down by the mile and need some advice.

I'm looking at buying an older truck - '02 Volvo with 900k on it. The entire drivetrain has been rebuilt within the past few years (engine, trans & both rears). Of course, hopefully, they'll hold together for a few more years before they need any more major work done.

Because of the age of the truck, I'm allowing 8cpm to go into a repair "fund".

Now, with regular maintenance items, such as tires, brakes and PM's, should I calculate those items separately (create a new maintenance "fund") or figure on paying the regular maintenance out of the repair "fund"?

GMAN 11-23-2008 11:32 PM

Owners calculate their estimated expenditures differently. When most put money into a maintenance account they usually do so for major expenses such as an engine, transmission or rears. I prefer paying for tires, pm's and other expenses out of regular operating costs. I have known of some who put everything into the maintenance account and withdraw money as needed for tires, etc., If you plan on withdrawing money from the account for tires and pm's, etc., I suggest putting more into the account.

tracer 11-23-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 425111)
I'm trying to work out the best way to calculate the truck expenses and break it down by the mile and need some advice.

The trucking company I'm leased to offers to take money out of the paycheck for the maintenance fund. Then if I use their shop to fix my truck, they first take the money of that fund... But I found it's easier for some reason just to let them bill me for repairs - the do the work and then deduct the expense from my next paycheck. I use my line of credit or VISA for large emergencies ...

Malaki86 11-24-2008 02:13 AM

That's sort of what I was thinking - using the maintenance account for major repairs. Also, if (hoping) I don't use it much, a portion of that account can be used towards financing a newer truck later on.

floored 11-24-2008 02:03 PM

I don't set aside any cpm for repairs, it just works better for me to take as needed from the business account. I have a high limit mastercard to cover anything that I don't have the cash on hand to pay for.

GMAN 11-25-2008 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 425174)
That's sort of what I was thinking - using the maintenance account for major repairs. Also, if (hoping) I don't use it much, a portion of that account can be used towards financing a newer truck later on.


If you don't need the maintenance account you could use those funds to pay cash for your next truck. I like to pay cash when possible. I knew an owner operator who used this method to buy his trucks. Money that was in his account and wasn't needed for major repairs was used to either pay down the amount he would finance or pay cash for his trucks. It worked very well for him.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 425111)
I'm trying to work out the best way to calculate the truck expenses and break it down by the mile and need some advice.

I'm looking at buying an older truck - '02 Volvo with 900k on it. The entire drivetrain has been rebuilt within the past few years (engine, trans & both rears). Of course, hopefully, they'll hold together for a few more years before they need any more major work done.

Because of the age of the truck, I'm allowing 8cpm to go into a repair "fund".

Now, with regular maintenance items, such as tires, brakes and PM's, should I calculate those items separately (create a new maintenance "fund") or figure on paying the regular maintenance out of the repair "fund"?

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solo379 11-29-2008 08:57 PM

It doesn't really matter, how you call it, maintenance, business...etc. As long as you have it. Just never forget, that not all of the revenue left after regular(fuel, tolls, ins...) expenses is yours to keep. Part of it still belongs to the truck. Also, i believe, that $0.08 cpm, is kinda on a low side. $0.1-.15, is a safer bet.
Better to have it, and don't need it, than need it, and don't have it. After all, it's still your money.
I hope you have a work for that truck. It's getting offly quiet around...

Musicman 12-01-2008 08:38 PM

I set 25cpm aside in a separate, high interest account. This is for both taxes and very high dollar repairs. I never touch this money unless I have a repair that I do not have money to cover in any other account (which is pretty much just an inframe). Tires, PMs, etc. are all paid out of my general business account. Actual maintenance costs including an inframe should be between 8cpm and 12 cpm for the life of the truck. Taxes generally do not (for us) exceed 10cpm (odometer miles). What this does is give us the money over time to buy our next truck and trailer for cash and we never miss the money we put into that account. It’s an all around good deal... or at least for us it is.

GMAN 12-02-2008 04:12 AM

I met a man once who did what you are doing, Musicman. He puts money into the account and uses it to buy a newer truck. He still uses the funds to take care of any maintenance costs, but uses any excess for the next truck. He will either pay down on the newer truck or pay cash for it.


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