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Rev.Vassago 05-25-2008 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NotSteve
Well, looks like I'm gonna have to do something since I've been one upped.

I plan to paint my Rigmaster white on the top and black on the bottom. I will put twice the amount of lights on the bottom so it will look cooler. I will also change the rubber band cover hold downs to something off a really really old car.

:lol:

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I honestly can't believe you'll last a week in those seats though Rev.
We'll see. If the ride sucks, I can change them both out in about an hour's time. Only 4 bolts holding them onto the bases.

whatsmynameagain 05-25-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
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Originally Posted by devildice
Hey Rev,

Hows the interior floor working out? I too had thought about ripping out my carpet and spraying it with that bedliner stuff but was not sure if it would be wise as far as noise and insulation purposes go.

I never did put down the legitimate bedliner flooring. I bought a can of it, but forgot it in my car when I went down to get the truck. :oops: Right now, it just has the concrete flooring paint on it, and it is holding up so-so. I think part of the problem is that it was kind of cool outside when I first painted it, so it didn't adhere very well. I couldn't get underneath to put insulation under the cab, so the noise is definitely noticeable. I think what I will do eventually is have a stainless or diamond plate floor put in (probably powder coated black just for the wear factor), and sandwich sound deadening material underneath it between the top floor and the current floor. That should cut down on the noise quite a bit. I still like the look of the floor, and cleaning it up is a breeze. Just spray it down with all purpose cleaner, and wipe it off. Couldn't ask for anything easier than that.

Black powder coated diamond plate floor would be great!

Orangetxguy 05-25-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
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Originally Posted by devildice
Hey Rev,

Hows the interior floor working out? I too had thought about ripping out my carpet and spraying it with that bedliner stuff but was not sure if it would be wise as far as noise and insulation purposes go.

I never did put down the legitimate bedliner flooring. I bought a can of it, but forgot it in my car when I went down to get the truck. :oops: Right now, it just has the concrete flooring paint on it, and it is holding up so-so. I think part of the problem is that it was kind of cool outside when I first painted it, so it didn't adhere very well. I couldn't get underneath to put insulation under the cab, so the noise is definitely noticeable. I think what I will do eventually is have a stainless or diamond plate floor put in (probably powder coated black just for the wear factor), and sandwich sound deadening material underneath it between the top floor and the current floor. That should cut down on the noise quite a bit. I still like the look of the floor, and cleaning it up is a breeze. Just spray it down with all purpose cleaner, and wipe it off. Couldn't ask for anything easier than that.

Get yerself hooked up with ole DD ! I'm sure he still remembers how to sling a mop..and can give you pointers !!!


Oh yeah....the truck looks...very kewl. 8)

devildice 05-25-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I never did put down the legitimate bedliner flooring. I bought a can of it, but forgot it in my car when I went down to get the truck. :oops: Right now, it just has the concrete flooring paint on it, and it is holding up so-so. I think part of the problem is that it was kind of cool outside when I first painted it, so it didn't adhere very well. I couldn't get underneath to put insulation under the cab, so the noise is definitely noticeable. I think what I will do eventually is have a stainless or diamond plate floor put in (probably powder coated black just for the wear factor), and sandwich sound deadening material underneath it between the top floor and the current floor. That should cut down on the noise quite a bit. I still like the look of the floor, and cleaning it up is a breeze. Just spray it down with all purpose cleaner, and wipe it off. Couldn't ask for anything easier than that.

The main reason I haven't done it yet is the noise factor. I can't stand having carpet in the cab and can not find the "typical" rubber flooring/matting that is in many trucks to fit mine. I'll keep searching until I find a suitable solution.

Btw, the truck looks great!!

devildice 05-25-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
Get yerself hooked up with ole DD ! I'm sure he still remembers how to sling a mop..and can give you pointers !!!

ha, ha.....very funy wiseguy! :wink:

hamboner 05-26-2008 08:46 AM

Paint looks great! I thought you were planning to sell the wing on top? If you are gonna keep it on there I would have it painted black. Every time I look at the pics all I can think is "Damn...put some 7" stacks on that mutha"! Along with the stacks, once those tanks and wing are painted black i will be satisfied. Hurry up and have that aluminum polished! You will be suprised how big a diff in shine you will get if you have them buffed professionally. Mothers will do ok for maintenance shine, but it cannot restore to chomelike finish like the clay bars and buffing wheel can.

I happen to be an experienced polisher and have spent many hours doing motorcycle frames, wheels, and all kinds of engine parts. Your best bet is to have them cut to remove all the pitting. You might try wet sanding with some 1200 and then 2000 grit to help out a bit. lot of work!

NotSteve 05-26-2008 09:11 AM

I agree. Wait until you can get someone to professionaly buff everything. It's the biggest pain in the ass you can imagine. For now, just get someone in a truckstop to polish them by hand for $20 bucks.

The pros have power equipment and work like absolute animals. I honestly don't know how they can stand on their feet at the end of the day. The $300 bucks you spend will be well worth it and your tanks and wheels will look like chrome.

Do the other front wheel and stop there.

Rev.Vassago 05-26-2008 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hamboner
Paint looks great! I thought you were planning to sell the wing on top? If you are gonna keep it on there I would have it painted black.

I replaced the wing with a new one, because the old one was severely dented. My first thought with it was that I would powdercoat it black, but I kind of think that the stainless looks better. I'll decide later.

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Every time I look at the pics all I can think is "Damn...put some 7" stacks on that mutha"!
I'm putting 6" stacks on. I think any bigger will be overkill.

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Originally Posted by NotSteve
I agree. Wait until you can get someone to professionaly buff everything. It's the biggest pain in the ass you can imagine. For now, just get someone in a truckstop to polish them by hand for $20 bucks.

The pros have power equipment and work like absolute animals. I honestly don't know how they can stand on their feet at the end of the day. The $300 bucks you spend will be well worth it and your tanks and wheels will look like chrome.

Do the other front wheel and stop there.

I did the other steer yesterday, and the driver's side air tank. The air tanks aren't pitted and are shining up nicely. The steps are going to need mechanical help - the aluminum polish wouldn't do a darn thing for them.

I washed it today with very mild soap. I can see how hard this black is going to be to keep clean. I think it will be less noticeable once the gloss starts to fade to a satin finish. Got all the extra parts out of it, vacuumed and cleaned the sleeper, and took it for a little cruise. It definitely gets looks. :lol:

The hunt will start shortly to find a good used trailer that I can have painted to match. It is gonna look weird pulling a Landstar dry van behind it.

Jackrabbit379 05-26-2008 11:27 AM

Rev! Dude, that is sweet. Holy quocamoly. Man, that is sharp.

mike3fan 05-26-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I can see how hard this black is going to be to keep clean.

Welcome to my world :sad:

Maniac 05-26-2008 12:02 PM

Looks good, real good.

Don't know about the seats though, they look like GM buckets from the 60's, they weren't comfortable then, don't think they will be now.

Also watch the rear fender brackets, they like to loosen up, when I ran that style bracket they used to loosen up all the time, where the big bolt goes thru the frame, I carried extra bolts for when they snapped.

hamboner 05-26-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac
Looks good, real good.

Don't know about the seats though, they look like GM buckets from the 60's, they weren't comfortable then, don't think they will be now.

Also watch the rear fender brackets, they like to loosen up, when I ran that style bracket they used to loosen up all the time, where the big bolt goes thru the frame, I carried extra bolts for when they snapped.

Good advice! My father has a drop panel on his rear for lighting and no matter what length we go to, to try and reinforce it, things always seem to loosen up or crack. Its unbelievable....so much vibration and torque twist back there. Go ahead and plan on making adjustments once a month.

Rev.Vassago 05-26-2008 03:21 PM

Are you referring to the center support bracket?

RostyC 05-26-2008 10:08 PM

Don't get me started on black. It's a beaut when it's clean but that doesn't last long. :cry: And because we have hard water here at the house it spots up when it drys so I have to take it to the car wash because they have spot free rinse.

In a related story.............Hampstead Car Wash is reporting record profits. :lol: :lol:

Chiefwhatdahey 05-27-2008 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hamboner
My father has a drop panel on his rear for lighting and no matter what length we go to, to try and reinforce it, things always seem to loosen up or crack. Its unbelievable....so much vibration and torque twist back there.

:shock:

Sounds like he needs more fiber in his diet :lol:

Maniac 05-27-2008 11:38 AM

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Are you referring to the center support bracket?


No, the ones on either end.

They have a single bolt that goes thru the frame, and when the bolt loosens it usually snaps, I used to carry spare ones, I have broken many, so many that I no longer use that style bracket.

It is a 15/16" socket that you need to tighten it or change out the bolt.

I will try to get a picture of the bracket set-up I use now posted.

Could you post a link to a pic of the truck, I want to send it to a buddy of mine who shares a computer, and I couldn't do it off the pics you posted, I am still a novice at this computer thing :lol:

Rev.Vassago 05-27-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac
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Are you referring to the center support bracket?


No, the ones on either end.

They have a single bolt that goes thru the frame, and when the bolt loosens it usually snaps, I used to carry spare ones, I have broken many, so many that I no longer use that style bracket.

It is a 15/16" socket that you need to tighten it or change out the bolt.

I will try to get a picture of the bracket set-up I use now posted.

That leads me to believe the body shop that did my work anticipated this, because my fenders aren't held on with a bolt. They welded a thick piece of steel tubing directly to the frame, and the bracket is bolted to that. There are no bolts going through the frame holding the fenders on - I checked after you posted that.

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Could you post a link to a pic of the truck, I want to send it to a buddy of mine who shares a computer, and I couldn't do it off the pics you posted, I am still a novice at this computer thing :lol:
Sure. Take your pick.

http://www.overdesaturated.com/shop25.jpg
http://www.overdesaturated.com/shop26.jpg
http://www.overdesaturated.com/finished03.jpg
http://www.overdesaturated.com/finished14.jpg
http://www.overdesaturated.com/finished15.jpg

I'm on my maiden voyage with her right now. On my way to Chicago to pick up a trailer.

Maniac 05-30-2008 07:05 AM

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That leads me to believe the body shop that did my work anticipated this, because my fenders aren't held on with a bolt. They welded a thick piece of steel tubing directly to the frame, and the bracket is bolted to that.



Not only anticipated it but knew the right way to do it 8) Tells me its a good shop.

Thanks for the links to the pics,

Rev.Vassago 05-31-2008 01:43 AM

I just about cried on Thursday. I delivered a shipment to Wixom, MI, and the dock was at an odd angle. It was one of those docks that sloped downward. After carefully backing in, I found that my brand new painted fenders had a trailer resting directly on them. :cry: After I pulled out, I surveyed the damage. I am going to have to get both fenders repainted. I did, however, figure out a way to eliminate this problem from occurring in the future. I will get myself a couple of moving pads, and have them tailored to fit the top of the fenders. If I run into this situation again, I will simply attach the pads to the top of the fenders before backing in, and that should eliminate the scratching if the trailer gets too close.

I would probably be crying more had I left the fenders unpainted, because that would be harder to hide.

allan5oh 05-31-2008 06:07 AM

The fenders were installed too high?

Why would they do that?

sidman82 05-31-2008 06:15 AM

My tall rubber hits the trailer on almost every angled dock. I can see and hear the treads rub on the cross members underneath the trailer. :? I just go really slow and carefull. Some docks, adjusting the tandems will help, but not all. I always said to myself if I had full fenders, I would destroy them. Most of the trailers I use have 22.5's and I have 24.5's which does not help. Sorry to hear of your mishap, that really sucks. :x

Rev.Vassago 05-31-2008 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by allan5oh
The fenders were installed too high?

Why would they do that?

They aren't installed too high. I'm sitting on 24.5 rubber, and the angle of this particular dock was just a bit too steep. There is only about a 2.5" - 3" clearance between the top of my tires and the bottom of the fenders (might be a little less, might be a little more). It was nothing the shop did. As it was, it barely touched the fenders. Had it bent them or dented them, then I would be more concerned about their height, but it only scratched them.

This is one of the reasons they install a 5th wheel riser on fiberglass full fenders. If I weren't on 24.5 rubber, I would probably have had them put a riser on my 5th wheel, but that extra height would have likely put my trailer over 13' 6" in the front.

Maniac 05-31-2008 08:51 AM

Unfortunatley there isn't much you can do, the tall rubber and the trailer height have you over a barrel, you can not have a 5th wheel height over 48" to maintain 13'6" trailer height

Just have to be careful, thats all, those sloped docks are fender killers

Since I pull a tank, I have NO issues with height, also the tanks have MORE clearance above the tires, due to their design.

I welded one inch spacers on the axles and deflated the air suspension, I then put 3/4" wood on top of the NEW tires, laid the fenders on the wood and installed the brackets, I have done all my trucks this way, never had a problem, but I also haven't pulled a van in 20 years or so.

mike3fan 05-31-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniac
but I also haven't pulled a van in 20 years or so.

wimp

Doghouse 05-31-2008 11:42 AM

Your truck looks great rev,..it's a shame about your fenders,.the same thing almost happened to me. I had just put new diamond plate aluminum full fenders on mine a couple of weeks ago, and when I was done, it didn't look right. The top of the fender was almost the same height as the pivot pin on the fifth wheel. I figured that I would tear them off the first time I hit an off angle while truning a corner,...so off they came until I can fabricate better mounting brackets.

The truck still looks great 8)

RostyC 05-31-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I just about cried on Thursday. I delivered a shipment to Wixom, MI, and the dock was at an odd angle. It was one of those docks that sloped downward. After carefully backing in, I found that my brand new painted fenders had a trailer resting directly on them. Crying or Very sad After I pulled out, I surveyed the damage. I am going to have to get both fenders repainted.

I think we should take this as an opportunity to do a total makeover..........again. After all all, it's looked like that for over a week now. :wink:

Seriously, sorry to hear about that Rev, that sucks.

Rev.Vassago 06-04-2008 01:41 PM

Today my inverter system started acting up, so I ran down to Lowes to grab a 400 watt one to hold me over until I can figure out what is wrong with it. While I was there, I ran over to the cleaning aisle to see if they had any aluminum polish (I ran out of Mothers Aluminum Polish). They didn't have any, but I noticed they had bottles of Brasso metal polish. I figured what the heck, since they were only $2.97 a bottle, I'd give it a shot. I did a small area of my fuel tank after I got parked again, and I'm shocked at how well it works. The stuff stinks to all heck, and it takes a lot more elbow grease to get it to polish, but the stuff actually works, and at a fraction of the cost of regular aluminum polish.

Ridge Runner 06-04-2008 02:12 PM

I used that stuff to polish my brass when I was in the army. I liked a product called "Wad" ( I think that is what it was called ). It came in a can about the size of a large can of shoe polish only a little bit deeper. It was a cotton-like materal that had the polish in it. You just pinch off a piece to use. I don't think I would want to do a whole fuel tank with it tho. Better suited for small projects like belt buckels.

Rev.Vassago 06-04-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
I don't think I would want to do a whole fuel tank with it tho.

I did a 1 foot by 1 foot section in about 10 minutes. In the dark. I'll see tomorrow how good (or crappy) it looks. I was reading online about the stuff, and on one website, they recommended that you follow the Brasso polishing with Blue Magic polish paste. Strangely enough, that's the exact crap I bought that wasn't getting through the oxidation. :lol:

Rev.Vassago 06-05-2008 06:16 AM

Polishing in progress...

http://www.worthless1000.com/tank1.jpg
http://www.worthless1000.com/tank2.jpg

FINISHED!

http://www.worthless1000.com/tank3.jpg


Here's the damage that the trailer caused when it came down on the fenders:

http://www.worthless1000.com/fenderdamage1.jpg
http://www.worthless1000.com/fenderdamage2.jpg

Here is what it looked like while it was happening. It barely touched, but it didn't take much:


http://www.worthless1000.com/dock1.jpg
http://www.worthless1000.com/dock2.jpg

Chiefwhatdahey 06-05-2008 04:06 PM

You're hired Rev.! You can do my truck Saturday afternoon :lol:

You have mail

tahawus 06-06-2008 10:57 AM

Saw you rolling w/b on 80 in IN this afternoon. Very nice looking truck, sure got my attention! :D

Rev.Vassago 06-06-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tahawus
Saw you rolling w/b on 80 in IN this afternoon.

Yes you did. I was on my way to South Bend to grab a load of parts from the Hummer factory. Now I'm at the T/A in Perrysburg, OH (where I managed to get fuel for $4.20 per gallon 8) ).


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