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Something i'm going to start doing....
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The other day, i was headed WB on I-71 out of Cincy toward Indy. Stopped for fuel, and pulled back onto the interstate. I get up a head of steam, and start looking to merge. I notice this TMC driver who isn't getting over to let me into the slow lane. (yes, i know it isnt his job and/or have to get over...i'm the one who has to merge, but most drivers still have that courtsey left in them) Now, my biggest pet peve, is when i get over for another driver, then they step on it to either pace me, or slowly pass me, making me look like the idiot for being in the fast lane going 62. A few will let you over, but not many. So anyway....i slow down for this TMC driver. I looked down, and was doing 58. I had second thoughts about doing that, cause of the couple trucks and 4-wheelers behind me still. I gave him a few seconds, cause most drivers who were wanting over and/or paying attention to their mirrors would have seen that, and got right back over. This guy didnt. So.....i stepped on it. Back up to 62-63. I had a half mile an hour or so 'roll' on him. Once i got up to his truck, i could then see why he wasn't paying attention.....THE GUY WAS ON HIS CELL PHONE !!! I get on the radio and said, "you know, TMC, if you were paying attention to your mirrors rather than chatting with your boyfriend on your cell, you'd have seen i slowed down for ya back there..."
After about 5-7 minutes of running side by side, another driver behind us got on and was getting annoyed at TMC and said, "...hey flatbed...lets get going, yeah?" The TMC driver then gets on and says, "yeah i would, but this swift here is screwing me up." So i jumped right back on and let into him. "Dude, you're the one on your F-kin cell phone. I slowed down for you back there, but you were too busy yackin' on your cell to pay attention to your rear-view mirrors to see i was lettin' ya over!! Don't go blamin' me cause you'd rather talk on your cell phone than pay attention." He then says, "yeah right, okay swift".....like i was making up the fact he was talking on his cell. So what i'm going to do in the future, and i doubt if it will even make a difference, is everytime i can see another driver talking on his cell, texting or whatever...i'll snap a picture of them, then forward it to their company and let them handle it. I had a driver just yesterday....i-294 NB headed to Islip, IL. We were both in the slow lane....i was doing 58, then the driver in front of me, who was doing 58-60, starts to drop his speed, and ends up doing 50 !!! I pass him, and guess what....hes texting on his cell or looking for directions. It happened so fast, i didnt get a picture. =) |
What device are you using to take a picture of them?
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Originally Posted by RostyC
(Post 482213)
What device are you using to take a picture of them?
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Originally Posted by RostyC
(Post 482213)
What device are you using to take a picture of them?
so you're saying taking 5 seconds to snap a picture is as bad as 5 minutes of driving with one elbow? Trust me, i was more in control and aware of my surroundings than this guy was. But clearly you missed the point of the whole post. |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482234)
its called a camera. takes 3 seconds from the time i turn it on and snap a picture. This guy was talking on it for 10 minutes, not to mention his inablility of not paying attention. Oh, forgot to mention, when rolling up his right side, i could see in his RH rearview, hes one of those drivers who talks with his hands. So the hand not holding the phone was pointing in the air, or making some other gesture, his elbow was driving?
so you're saying taking 5 seconds to snap a picture is as bad as 5 minutes of driving with one elbow? Trust me, i was more in control and aware of my surroundings than this guy was. But clearly you missed the point of the whole post. I understand the point completely, and I totally agree about cell phones and being distracted. I hate to see it myself, but you're doing same thing you're complaining about. A lot can happen in five seconds, you should know that. I just wanted to point out the irony. :D |
It's not just the irony, and I don't doubt that Kevin was more in control and/or MOSTLY in control while snapping the picture.
The issue, as I see it, and what I thought Rosty was going for, was that the new laws (or regs or whatever they were) addressing the issue for TRUCKERS, includes any and ALL hand held "devices." Better hope you don't identify yourself in any way when sending the photos to his company, cuz you're giving them evidence that you also were breaking the law. |
I understand what you meen but like others said, you just did the same thing by pointing and clicking, you took your eyes off the road. My accedent I just got off my record took all of 2 or 3 sec of lost attn to hapen, trust me. talk about the text and cell phones, don't take snapshots of em
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Originally Posted by geeshock
(Post 482246)
I understand what you meen but like others said, you just did the same thing by pointing and clicking, you took your eyes off the road. My accedent I just got off my record took all of 2 or 3 sec of lost attn to hapen, trust me. talk about the text and cell phones, don't take snapshots of em
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I sympathize with Kevin, there are way too many dumbass drivers out there that are "super truckers" and can do 5 things at once. Just count how many drivers you see coming into a busy truck stop, manuvering, shifting, looking in one mirror, trying to back into a tight spot all the while on their hands on cell phone. Why can't they spend a few bucks on a decent bluetooth headset and eliminate half the probability of an accident? Because that's not the "super trucker" way.
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Kevin0915 said:
But seeing how i used my judgement, and all the traffic (and i mean ALL) was behind me....i was totally in control...and 95% safe. =) Seriously, Kevin.... I don't blame you and I feel the same way about it. These drivers drive me NUTS! I probably take the same chance by leaning out my passenger side window (while finally passing them) and screaming at them to keep their eyes on the ROAD! :lol: (All the while staying in my own lane, of course!) :cool: |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482256)
. . i was totally in control...and 95% safe. =)
Now, if you want to be a highway vigilante and stay employed, deputy, get yourself a couple of these: GoPro HD Motorsports Hero, New in box, No reserve! - eBay (item 270590246737 end time Jun-13-10 21:32:39 PDT) They have handlebar mounts you can use to hang them from your mirrors, they're almost weatherproof and you can set them to shoot automatically. The only drawback is that you'll have to stop every couple of hours to swap out an SD card but hey, I'll feel safer just knowing you're off the road for a few minutes. |
So you had your eyes off the road for several seconds while you took the 2 pictures.Even though TMC was talking on the phone,they were watching the road.In my opinion you were both in the wrong for using your cell phones going down the road.That is why so many companies have disabled the qualcomm so you can't use it while the truck is in motion.Try to solve the problem,don't be the problem.
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
(Post 482260)
Kevin0915 said:
So.... you are willing to accept a 5% chance that you could have a single truck crash and die (or lose your career) JUST to rat out another driver? Yeah.... I call that using your "judgement." :roll::lol: |
Originally Posted by chain binder
(Post 482279)
So you had your eyes off the road for several seconds while you took the 2 pictures.Even though TMC was talking on the phone,they were watching the road.In my opinion you were both in the wrong for using your cell phones going down the road.That is why so many companies have disabled the qualcomm so you can't use it while the truck is in motion.Try to solve the problem,don't be the problem.
Yeah, TMC might have had his eyes on the road, but whats in front of you is only half the picture now isnt it. you got 3 other sides to your rig, and he obviously wasnt paying attention to 75% of the area around his truck. Now when i forwarded the info to TMC, i did so from my email totally undrealted to trucking, swift, anything. I didnt mention who i drove for....just that i was a fellow driver with a serious issue with the lack of awareness. i gave my first name...thats it. oh..and i cropped out the lower half of the picture, cause any genius could see the reflection of my truck and tell who i drove for. =) bet you all missed that, huh |
Now, on the other hand, pictures can be a valuable training tool . .
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Now when i forwarded the info to TMC, i did so from my email totally undrealted to trucking, swift, anything. I didnt mention who i drove for....just that i was a fellow driver with a serious issue with the lack of awareness. i gave my first name...thats it. oh..and i cropped out the lower half of the picture, cause any genius could see the reflection of my truck and tell who i drove for. =) bet you all missed that, huh Think about it, we now have a situation where we have TWO 80,000 lb vehicles traveling side by side and neither driver is giving full attention. Go join the police force if that's what you wanna do. I think you need to get out of the truck for a while it's making you do stupid things. |
Originally Posted by RostyC
(Post 482307)
So now you're a tattletale with no balls. :clap: If you're going to point the finger at some one at least stand up and be a man about it. Goes to show that deep down you know your company wouldn't tolerate you taking pictures of something or someone while driving down the road. You know your excuses wouldn't hold water.
Think about it, we now have a situation where we have TWO 80,000 lb vehicles traveling side by side and neither driver is giving full attention. Go join the police force if that's what you wanna do. I think you need to get out of the truck for a while it's making you do stupid things. thinking i might join the police force. DOT probably, and run around doing nothing but pulling over truckers. =) you'd be my first big ticket....cause i know it wouldnt take me long to find 20 things wrong with your chitbox. |
Kevin...
The last thing I read was a law that was going to restrict a driver's use of "hand-held electronic devices". Now, you think about that. That also includes your mic for the CB radio. You can take pictures... Legally.... If you have the camera mounted, and not in your hands. If you're holding it in your hand, you stand to get cited along with the driver you took the picture of. All DOT has to do us ask how you got the picture. "Picked up the camera, pointed it and pushed the button." BINGO... Just like the woman that insisted to a state trooper in MN that he had to slow down all the trucks. "I had to go 80 in order to get ahead of them." I was in the restaurant, about two tables away. After the 4th time, or so, that she stated she had been doing 80, he asked her for her own driver's license. Then wrote her a ticket. "By your own admission, in front of witnesses, you have stated, no less than 4 times, that you have been going 10 miles over the speed limit." You might just want to think about that. |
Originally Posted by Windwalker
(Post 482314)
Kevin...
The last thing I read was a law that was going to restrict a driver's use of "hand-held electronic devices". Now, you think about that. That also includes your mic for the CB radio. You can take pictures... Legally.... If you have the camera mounted, and not in your hands. If you're holding it in your hand, you stand to get cited along with the driver you took the picture of. All DOT has to do us ask how you got the picture. "Picked up the camera, pointed it and pushed the button." BINGO... Just like the woman that insisted to a state trooper in MN that he had to slow down all the trucks. "I had to go 80 in order to get ahead of them." I was in the restaurant, about two tables away. After the 4th time, or so, that she stated she had been doing 80, he asked her for her own driver's license. Then wrote her a ticket. "By your own admission, in front of witnesses, you have stated, no less than 4 times, that you have been going 10 miles over the speed limit." You might just want to think about that. |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482295)
Guess what....its no more of a distraction to snap a couple pictures.
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Get a faster truck and break away from the wolf pack.
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Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482256)
But seeing how i used my judgement
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 447550)
When i try to explain that it was an error in judgement that i tried making the turn, it was a judgement made with incomplete information. But anything i said went in one ear and out his @ZZ...cause he didnt even hesitate writing that ticket.
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The only thing I see that you did wrong, was tell these guys about it
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I saw a truck tonight, I think it was a Heartland Express with a shiny hiny, and (I guess) the driver had written in the dust on the back doors...
"Hang up the phone and DRIVE!" I thought this might work for Kevin. Then I remembered he drove for Swift, and I think he said something about struggling to get up to 62. So, I doubt anyone BUT a TMC driver would get a chance to read the message! :rofl::rofl::thumbsup: |
What gets me, is all you busting my balls for 'doing the same' as that TMC driver driving with an elbow and right hand, forgetting to check his mirrors but once a half hour. You say we were both distracted/not paying attention to the road. But let me ask this. I want one driver on this board, to get on here and tell me they drive with full 100% attention, 100% of the time the truck is in motion. Just one. And if anybody tells me they do, ill tell them they're full of chit. You may have both hands on the wheel, looking a mile down the road and side to side, ready for anything. But if you talk on the CB, snack on that 'big grab' bag of chips on your dash, look at a Randy McNally, scratch your balls or whatever....then guess what, you're as bad as me taking a camera out of my storage bin right over my head, turning it on and snapping a picture taking my eyes off the road for a second.
if you tune your radio, look at your wris****ch, throw something into your trash bin, adjust your seat and/or mirrors, bever hunting....there are alot of things (and you know what they are) that distract you from 100% focus on the road when you're driving. Ain't nobody on this board can tell me they have 100% attention 100% of the time |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482210)
The other day, i was headed WB on I-71 out of Cincy toward Indy. Stopped for fuel, and pulled back onto the interstate. I get up a head of steam, and start looking to merge. I notice this TMC driver who isn't getting over to let me into the slow lane. (yes, i know it isnt his job and/or have to get over...i'm the one who has to merge, but most drivers still have that courtsey left in them) Now, my biggest pet peve, is when i get over for another driver, then they step on it to either pace me, or slowly pass me, making me look like the idiot for being in the fast lane going 62. A few will let you over, but not many. So anyway....i slow down for this TMC driver. I looked down, and was doing 58. I had second thoughts about doing that, cause of the couple trucks and 4-wheelers behind me still. I gave him a few seconds, cause most drivers who were wanting over and/or paying attention to their mirrors would have seen that, and got right back over. This guy didnt. So.....i stepped on it. Back up to 62-63. I had a half mile an hour or so 'roll' on him. Once i got up to his truck, i could then see why he wasn't paying attention.....THE GUY WAS ON HIS CELL PHONE !!! I get on the radio and said, "you know, TMC, if you were paying attention to your mirrors rather than chatting with your boyfriend on your cell, you'd have seen i slowed down for ya back there..."
After about 5-7 minutes of running side by side, another driver behind us got on and was getting annoyed at TMC and said, "...hey flatbed...lets get going, yeah?" The TMC driver then gets on and says, "yeah i would, but this swift here is screwing me up." So i jumped right back on and let into him. "Dude, you're the one on your F-kin cell phone. I slowed down for you back there, but you were too busy yackin' on your cell to pay attention to your rear-view mirrors to see i was lettin' ya over!! Don't go blamin' me cause you'd rather talk on your cell phone than pay attention." He then says, "yeah right, okay swift".....like i was making up the fact he was talking on his cell. So what i'm going to do in the future, and i doubt if it will even make a difference, is everytime i can see another driver talking on his cell, texting or whatever...i'll snap a picture of them, then forward it to their company and let them handle it. I had a driver just yesterday....i-294 NB headed to Islip, IL. We were both in the slow lane....i was doing 58, then the driver in front of me, who was doing 58-60, starts to drop his speed, and ends up doing 50 !!! I pass him, and guess what....hes texting on his cell or looking for directions. It happened so fast, i didnt get a picture. =) |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482417)
. . But let me ask this . .
How many of you, when confronted with a dangerous situation, ie a distracted driver, agree that the appropriate response is to compound the dangerous situation by introducing one more dangerous element, ie another distracted driver, into the mix? If Harry hay hauler encroaches into my lane while opposing me on a NE 2, my reaction should be: a) Reach for the trusty Polaroid and shoot for a Pulitzer, or b) Take every step necessary to avoid Harry? There hasn't been a single reply here that didn't acknowledge your frustration with a nuisance driver; it happens to everyone of us, every single day. Your kahonies are getting kicked around because of your boneheaded reaction. Your preposterous denials have risen to the level of matcatishness. |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482417)
What gets me, is all you busting my balls for 'doing the same' as that TMC driver driving with an elbow and right hand, forgetting to check his mirrors but once a half hour. You say we were both distracted/not paying attention to the road. But let me ask this. I want one driver on this board, to get on here and tell me they drive with full 100% attention, 100% of the time the truck is in motion. Just one. And if anybody tells me they do, ill tell them they're full of chit. You may have both hands on the wheel, looking a mile down the road and side to side, ready for anything. But if you talk on the CB, snack on that 'big grab' bag of chips on your dash, look at a Randy McNally, scratch your balls or whatever....then guess what, you're as bad as me taking a camera out of my storage bin right over my head, turning it on and snapping a picture taking my eyes off the road for a second.
if you tune your radio, look at your wris****ch, throw something into your trash bin, adjust your seat and/or mirrors, bever hunting....there are alot of things (and you know what they are) that distract you from 100% focus on the road when you're driving. Ain't nobody on this board can tell me they have 100% attention 100% of the time |
Originally Posted by BanditsCousin
(Post 482336)
Get a faster truck and break away from the wolf pack.
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Originally Posted by freebirdrfd
(Post 482450)
I have driven with full 100% attention, 100% of the time the truck is in motion. :smokin: :moon:
Anybody who has done anything close to what was mentioned above, is no better than a driver who snaps a couple pictures without taking his eyes off the road for but a couple seconds. If you check your mirrors, you take your eyes off the road for 5 seconds every minute....so whats the difference? you're not paying attention to whats in front of you for a second or two when you check your mirrors. |
Originally Posted by cdswans
(Post 482436)
Permit me to clarify your question.
How many of you, when confronted with a dangerous situation, ie a distracted driver, agree that the appropriate response is to compound the dangerous situation by introducing one more dangerous element, ie another distracted driver, into the mix? If Harry hay hauler encroaches into my lane while opposing me on a NE 2, my reaction should be: a) Reach for the trusty Polaroid and shoot for a Pulitzer, or b) Take every step necessary to avoid Harry? There hasn't been a single reply here that didn't acknowledge your frustration with a nuisance driver; it happens to everyone of us, every single day. Your kahonies are getting kicked around because of your boneheaded reaction. Your preposterous denials have risen to the level of matcatishness. |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482519)
let me ask you...have you EVER taken a sip of coffee/soda/water while driving? Have you ever snacked on anything while driving? Lit up a cigarette while driving? Tuned your radio? Reached up to grab your mic and talk on the radio? Farted? (just kidding) Went bever hunting? Daydream about getting home ro your lady friend (or guy friend?) after being out for 7 days? Wondering about how you're going to replace that lawnmower that just went out on you last week? Worry about anything personal?? Get my point? there isn't one driver on the road who can say they drive 100 and 100.
Anybody who has done anything close to what was mentioned above, is no better than a driver who snaps a couple pictures without taking his eyes off the road for but a couple seconds. If you check your mirrors, you take your eyes off the road for 5 seconds every minute....so whats the difference? you're not paying attention to whats in front of you for a second or two when you check your mirrors. every time I want to take a sip of my coffee, I pull over to do it, if it's a large cup, it can take all day to go 50 miles:clap::clap: |
Maybe the guy was calling swift , to let them know someone was taking pictures....
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Originally Posted by xcarsalesman
(Post 482529)
Maybe the guy was calling swift , to let them know someone was taking pictures....
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Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482519)
let me ask you...have you EVER taken a sip of coffee/soda/water while driving? Have you ever snacked on anything while driving? Lit up a cigarette while driving? Tuned your radio? Reached up to grab your mic and talk on the radio? Farted? (just kidding) Went bever hunting? Daydream about getting home ro your lady friend (or guy friend?) after being out for 7 days? Wondering about how you're going to replace that lawnmower that just went out on you last week? Worry about anything personal?? Get my point? there isn't one driver on the road who can say they drive 100 and 100.
Anybody who has done anything close to what was mentioned above, is no better than a driver who snaps a couple pictures without taking his eyes off the road for but a couple seconds. If you check your mirrors, you take your eyes off the road for 5 seconds every minute....so whats the difference? you're not paying attention to whats in front of you for a second or two when you check your mirrors. |
Originally Posted by xcarsalesman
(Post 482529)
Maybe the guy was calling swift , to let them know someone was taking pictures....
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Originally Posted by freebirdrfd
(Post 482551)
I have never done any of the above. :smokin:
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Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482417)
What gets me, is all you busting my balls for 'doing the same' as that TMC driver driving with an elbow and right hand, forgetting to check his mirrors but once a half hour. You say we were both distracted/not paying attention to the road. But let me ask this. I want one driver on this board, to get on here and tell me they drive with full 100% attention, 100% of the time the truck is in motion. Just one. And if anybody tells me they do, ill tell them they're full of chit. You may have both hands on the wheel, looking a mile down the road and side to side, ready for anything. But if you talk on the CB, snack on that 'big grab' bag of chips on your dash, look at a Randy McNally, scratch your balls or whatever....then guess what, you're as bad as me taking a camera out of my storage bin right over my head, turning it on and snapping a picture taking my eyes off the road for a second.
if you tune your radio, look at your wris****ch, throw something into your trash bin, adjust your seat and/or mirrors, bever hunting....there are alot of things (and you know what they are) that distract you from 100% focus on the road when you're driving. Ain't nobody on this board can tell me they have 100% attention 100% of the time I had it up until you got to the scratching part |
Originally Posted by Kevin0915
(Post 482310)
i bet your one of those truckers who talks smack in a truck stop, without telling anybody where you're parked at?
I bet, when you complain to another driver, you just say "driver" and not the company they work for, so they wont know exactly who you're talking to. Talk to me like that, and you'd soon change your opinion on 'balls or no balls'. Besides, why the fixation with balls anyway? hmmm?
Originally Posted by Kevin
look at a Randy McNally, scratch your balls or whatever...
thinking i might join the police force. DOT probably, and run around doing nothing but pulling over truckers. =) you'd be my first big ticket....cause i know it wouldnt take me long to find 20 things wrong with your chitbox. Now do you care to address any of the points in my last post? Or do you just wanna play tough internet guy? |
Originally Posted by mike3fan
(Post 482372)
Yep we have all seen your use of "judgement" before.....
http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/n...splain-me.html Thanks for the link, I must have missed it. What a hoot. :rofl: |
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