Several Felonies
 

I am looking to get into the trucking industry and have several felonies, and have been to prison twice. Some weed charges, and some violent stuff. I know, not a rosy picture. I was told truck driving would be a good career I could get into, but I am finding out from posts here and other boards, insurance carriers dont want the liability. Are there any companies that would hire? I was hoping for a short list of companies I could call, rather than calling a 100 companies just to be told no every time.

Any leads on a school that can help in Atlanta?

Yeah I read the posts here and OTR is not glamorous, long hours, no showers, crappy food, never home. Well thats still better than sitting in jail

Revvvv.....you so funny.

Although I am sure this guy is a TROLL, I am going to answer.

WHY would any company hire anyone with the record you described when there are so many out of work truck drivers with good records?

IF you are serious, the only companies that might even begin to touch you are small independent companies where an owner/operator is adding a truck or two. No major is going to touch you.

As for whoever told you trucking would be a good career, it once was. The past few years however, it has gotten worse by the day. Trucking companies closing daily, freight is down, pay is down. I strongly suggest you look elsewhere.

Remember, don't blame anyone else for your failures. You made your bed, you did the felonies, you won't be able to get a job.

Good Luck

He could try ARROW.

Arrow would be a perfect fit - a felon working for a bunch of crooks

That was exactly what i was thinking.......... :smokin:

maybe you can get a job maintaining rest areas in Virginia:lol:

With the CSA 2010 coming in he going to have a double wammy

Maybe he will like that :rofl: :smokin:

No I wasn't trolling, it is a legit question.

There is not going to be ANY industry right now that is short of help, except maybe the medical field. But any trade that requires short term or no training is going to be swamped with potential employees. Due to my record, I owned a B2B, and for years, people complained of techs with no overhead cutting price etc.

If you haven't noticed, its not just the trucking industry that has a shortage of jobs

I am not blaming anyone, I made some choices.

Oh well.

Some carriers will hire those with a felony conviction if it is at least 10 years old. Few will hire anyone with multiple felonies. If this legitimate the I would suggest a couple of things you can do. Go to your local state employment office. Lay out your case and see if they can help match you up with a potential company. The second thing you could do is start making phone calls. There are thousands of carriers of varying sizes across the country. Most of the larger carriers are going to be pretty rigid with their hiring requirements. Most are not doing criminal background checks as a matter of routine so it will be difficult to hide anything. Besides, the truth is always best. When you tell the truth you don't have to worry about something coming back to haunt you.

At one time California had a state program to assist felons into the trucking business. With the current economy there may be other states with similar programs. The Georgia Unemployment people are pretty aggressive in assisting people to find jobs. You are correct in that this is not the only industry that has more people applying than jobs. Companies are still hiring, but are much more selective in their hiring practices. I have people calling every week looking for a job.

As I see it you have a couple of problems. First are the felonies. Second is your lack of experience. If you cannot find something and have the resources you could always get your own truck and authority. As far as I know insurance companies don't do criminal background checks. Neither do shippers and brokers. It isn't easy or cheap to get your own authority. And this is probably one of the worst times to go this route. But, it is still a way to get what you want.

:roll3: ..well now don't none of yoose guys take this wrong. I'm only trying to offer our "multguest" some advice here.
With unemployment so high, and both non-felons and returning veteran's seeking these jobs, realistically, there are few jobs available.

I think a felons best potentials today are with SEIU and ACORN, whom already have a proven history of hiring felons, a desirable workforce to them. (until Amnesty Bill is past) But it should be pointed out, it is the socialist agenda to get as many people working just long enough to qualify for unemployment. The goal here is to dumb down the lower class, and get you fully dependant on government, and take away any job skills and work ethics you may have had under the capitalist system.

Self-described communist Van Jones (former Green Czar) who now works in a more powerful position with John Podesta and The Center For American Progress, has said he wants to "build a pipeline from the prison economy to the green economy," including hiring parolees to weatherize homes and offices. He secured grants to start a Green Job Corps in Oakland. Judging from his own words, his environmental concerns appear to be a front for creating a massive new welfare program — complete with paid job training and counseling — for criminals.

In his own words; "The green economy will start off as a small subset" of a "complete revolution" away from "gray capitalism" and toward "redistribution of all the wealth," he said. "And we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society."

Lets see... Western Express has had people slip through the Cracks, lets not forget about that high speed chase through the Beltway IN RUSH HOUR after a guy who had had a warranty on him for the past 16 years!!! One guy who had charges held his girl friend hostage for 2 months..

Covenant Hires Sex Offenders, just ask Chris Hanson, nothing like bring an Hi Rise Volvo to the Neighborhood to meet your new online 13 year old love...

And, C.R. England, just tell them you are there for there world famous leasing program!! They will put you in a Chromed Out Cascadia and you be rolling in no time!!

GO GET EM TIGER!!!

The White House is still hiring. Just make sure to tell them that you are a member of the Communist Party and believe in spreading the wealth. Darned capitalists. They like that. And the pay is pretty good. :thumbsup:

To Funny

Seems like you already found your career;)

My first response was a bit chicken shazz. Flush the violence out of your system and stick to dealing weed. Selling a few bags a week will net your more take home than most of us truckers make. Just be discreet and don't get caught again.

To be perfectly honest, trucking kinda sux.

The responses you have received are typical of the mentality you will deal with on a daily basis. Frankly, pure capitalism, communism, or a dictatorship wouldn't affect their respective lots in life. They would still be the low rent bums on the bottom of the socio-economic heap.

Why do you knuckleheads always feel the urge to interject your ignorant (1 a : destitute of knowledge or education also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence) politics into discussions.

Actually, I have a very good education and an above average IQ, thank you. You are correct in that I have never been a felon, so I do lack knowledge in that area. I do have some knowledge about politics. I have been involved in several political campaigns. By the way, my guys won. Apparently, being affiliated with known communists and/or socialists is a good background and much sought after quality in the current White House if you look at those who have been recruited in positions such as some of the czars. Lighten up.

I'd say we flushed out another banana-eating liberal waving his rainbow flag of desperation.
Just one more arrogant jackass who thinks anyone with an opinion other than his, needs to be silenced. :roll3:

Why this thread to get so bent? Ohhhh...maybe the majority of felons are liberals. (Obamanation comrades)

I admit, I did expect liberals to miss the point.... this thread is a Troll playground from the start, courtesy of a mult. :p hahahaha

That is the norm on this board these days, for some reason no one can post anything with out one of the MODS or other conservtives posting a response to to circumvent the original post and direct it towards our leaders and their failures, the funny part about it is that you can post a silghtly offhand comment about other posters and they will delete it, yet they continue to bash the administration left and right, in one breath they say be nice to members but it is ok to bash anyone else as "we don't want to run off any members as that would not be right" it is so fu.king old and childish that I too am at the point of guestioning everybodies level of maturity including mine and really think it is time I step away from this board for a while.

GMAN it was a bull**** statement to make about nothing that had to do with the original post, yet because you are a God fearing Mod you are able to do what you please and delete what you please and respond how you please, Your response really did show your level of maturity no matter how highyour IQ is.
It is getting old keep the political BS it the correct forum, oh wait I forgot this is a do as I say not as I do board, I should have come to terms with this dictatroship along time ago. oh well live and learn..

SEE YA

Timberwolf

Nothing was deleted or edited in this post by me or any other moderator as far as I know, Timberwolf. There are things that I may not like about a number of posts, but I don't go around deleting them. A post gets edited when it violates the posting policy such as offensive language. Other than that posts are usually left alone. We don't control what others may say. On the other hand personal attacks are not condoned and will not be tolerated. All it does is drive members away. It doesn't matter whether it is me or another poster, personal attacks are not condoned on this forum. There have been times when some have been allowed to go on for a short time, but when things get out of hand then it is the responsibility of the moderators to step in and stop it.

You have been here long enough to know that it is common for threads to be side railed from their original posting into something else. There have been political posts from both sides of the spectrum. Golf Hobo is one of the most left and as far as I know his posts have not been edited or deleted to control what is said. I don't agree with much of his political viewpoints, but don't have any intentions of editing or deleting his posts. He is free to express his views just as you and others do. There are others who lean the other way and those have also not been deleted or edited, to the best of my knowledge. As far as I know your posts have never been edited or deleted. Posts that are deleted are usually deleted by the poster themselves or they have asked one of the moderators to do it for them. The exception is someone who is spamming. Another is if someone deliberately tries to post personal information about a member or personally attack someone.

Most of us who come to this board are adults. I rarely say anything to any posters. When I do it is usually because things are getting a bit too heated or I have received complaints from one or more posters. I think that you will find that to be true with any of the moderators.

Politics do occasionally get into some of the posts. Many people are frustrated with what is going on with our economy and government. They are only venting a little. I have been guilty of some of that myself. This is an industry that has become a political football at times. It is sometimes difficult to separate the two. Posts are not controlled so I am not sure what you would like for me or the others to do about political talk. You are free to mention it to the one who posted it and see if things can move back to the topic. You are also free to ignore the posting and respond to something else. As you can see, I didn't edit or delete your post.

Well Gman there were three responses on this thread deleted, maybe it was the ultra conservative mod the late rev coming back from the grave, The real sad part about it is that they were not even as harsh as the remarks made in some of those political post. perception is relaity and my departure from this board wont close it down nor will it effect it by ny means but it will clearly end my having to deal with the hypocritcal ways you guys see the world not to mention the way you view this board.....
So in the words of many of your own fellow conservatives who as well became so dysenfranchised with this board, Yoopr, Admore, Rev, to mention a few I am out of here....

See Ya

Well, if you are talking about the 3 that I deleted. I did so because it was another poster on this board who registered under an alias. As you know, it was a planned attack designed to embarrass me by what he thought he knew. He was encouraged by a few trolls on another board to wreck havoc on this board. I know who the individual is who started this and I have no intention of sharing my personal business on a public forum. When that individual and his fellow trolls want to post their personal information on a public forum, then I might take it into consideration.

When someone comes on here with half truths and innuendo's then they will be dealt with directly. I have no problem with people asking questions in an adult manner. I won't tolerate someone deliberately starting a personal attack on me or another poster. Nor will any of the other moderators. If the moderators failed to step in then this board would become a free for all and no one would bother to even visit. If that is the criteria for someone staying on this board, then it is probably good for them to leave.

I am not sure that those you mentioned became disenfranchised with the board. They left for various reasons. I haven't seen Yoopr or Ardmore Farms post anywhere for some time. People come and go. There was a time when I didn't post on here. There are more than 17,000 members on this board and countless others who come as guests and have never registered. I have only banned one poster and that was the alias who only registered to remain anonymous in his attack. You are free to stay or go as you wish. I don't recall anyone restricting or deleting any of your posts. It is rare that anyone has their posts deleted or edited on this board. I think Rev was a little more aggressive than some, but that was his decision.

I usually don't say much to posters. I think people should be free to express themselves as long as it doesn't result in personal attacks or language that might offend people. Not everyone who comes to this forum is an adult. Others simply don't want to read all the filthy language. That is something that will be deleted or edited out. When I have done that it is only the particular word or words, not the entire post. There are guidelines or rules that every member must agree to when they sign up on this or any other forum. It is only when those guidelines are violated that the moderators step in. Some have been banned due to their constant personal attacks. You can say things about someone's posts or ideas without attacking them personally.

Frankly, I think that the moderators have been pretty lenient in many cases. You don't have to agree with me or any other moderator or poster. You will not be banned or have your post deleted for disagreeing. I have had people disagree with me over the years that I have been a member of this forum. I have never deleted any of them. I don't recall any other posts that have been deleted because they happened to disagree with one of the moderators.

I support GMAN 100% and all the moderator staff. I think we have the best moderators any message board could hope for. :thumbsup:

I'm not surprized at the false accusations, because we regular members get that allot too, when we choose to make political comments even in a joking manner. I've had some dimwit claim because I mis-spelled a word, therefore my whole opinion must not be worth anything. I will admit I've ramped up my verbage in response to some liberals here, but the caustic behavior on their part is what has made my neck hair bristle, and I'm not the type to back away. I'm a christian who still needs to learn about turning the other cheek, or that forgiving stuff. :roll:

Thing I don't understand about this political or religious opinion making, is this message board is predominately christian and conservative. I understand there are many members here who are liberal and some do not believe in christianity, and I remember starting out, trying to respect that. We've always had political and religious discussions here. Why now that the liberals are in power, and they are screwing up big time, all of a sudden we can't voice a politically conservative opinion? Even the attacks against christianity have become more caustic. There is this "now is their time" movement going on, and liberals seem to be in a panic to force their will upon all of us.

Right now liberals are running this Country, and they own all of our state of affairs, yet they are still trying to blame the past administration. They have 90% of all schools saturated with liberal ideology. They have 90% of the media. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed many of TV commercials and programming, and most movies have a liberal ideology? Most newspapers, magazines and whats known now as the lamestream media (TV) is a liberal propaganda machine. They are ramming their ideology down the throats of every American today, regardless of majority dissent. They ignore us completely and go to every measure to silence us, and shut us out of debate. They want to dismantle our Constitution, Bill of Rights, destroy capitalism and rip Christianity completely from the fabric of this Country, and "change" America into some form of a European socialist communist economy and government...again against the will of the majority.

Now a few CAD liberals want to silence conservative or christian opinion on CAD too? You can't simply go to a liberal truck site where you may feel more welcome? Or can't you atleast let a conservative come to a conservative truck site and blow off alittle steam without you feeling it is your duty to "change" CAD too? You are welcome to debate the issues, and maybe enlighten us, explain your ideology, offer ideas to consider, but I have yet to see one liberal try to join a discussion.

I don't care to see anyone feel run off, or uncomfortable by my opinions, but some of you have proven you don't deserve anything but a dose of what you dish out right back atcha. I think if you feel unwelcome here, it has more to do with your own behavior, like it or not. You are not going to fundementally transform CAD. The Obama administration may one day totally change the freedoms on the internet, but until then, may God Bless CAD. Dick Cheney for President. :lol:

OK, I fess up. I'm the one that deleted a few posts on this thread. I don't usually make it a habit of explaining myself about my decisions I make regarding this board. Welcome to the deep, dark recesses of a Mod mind:

The first post deleted was NOTHING but a personal attack on another member ( a non-mod BTW ). The other two or three ( I didn't really keep count ) were nothing more than a response to the original offending post. The member ( and I use that term loosely ) that posted the first offending post has been warned, banned, edited, called out in private and public for doing things like this. After he posted the post in question I had several options as how to address the situation. I choose the one that I thought best this time around.

There you have it; The deep, dark secrets of a Moderators mind on how we plan to move forward our hidden agenda. Kinda bland huh? :roll3:

PS: I also want to point out that the first post deleted was for attacking another member that had not even posted on this thread and the attack was out of the blue. That is why it was deleted. Had the person being attacked posted something on the thread and THEN some kind of attack took place I could understand it more. Not that I would like it, but I could see how it might happen. In that case I might have taken a different approach.

That's why you are a top mod Ridge, ya post Pirate! http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/49.gif Rrrr!

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...10/grenade.jpg

Hell... I woulda pulled the pin and made a big friggin' mess, to set some example!
Not only that... I would have over-moderated for a week, because of the adrenalin rush! http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...on_redface.gif

what do you have against bananas??

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...d10/banana.gif (heh heh) I think yer trying to get me banned........... again. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/56.gif

If I did this right, check your mailbox. If not... I'll see your back here in 3 days. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...d10/busted.gif

I'll see your back here in 3 days.



I dont care how much you beg, I'm not posting a picture of my back

Now back to our regular scheduled program:


As far as having this record. It has been my experience in the past that there are only a few crimes that will get you a prison sentence the first time around. If that is the case then you worked your way up to it and never got caught on the way there. Very few start their criminal career that high up the chain.

The more likely course of events is that you had a long list of run-ins with our legal system where they exhausted every means to get you to follow our laws and keep your butt out of prison.

Which is it?

As an employer, why would I think that if you refused to follow a set of rules that would keep you from losing your freedom, then what are the chances that you would follow my rules when I can only take away your employment?

I really hope you learned something and I do wish you luck. You are going to have a tough row to hoe.

One last thought: Always remember that TODAY is the first day for the rest of your life. There can't be any "if" this happens, or "when" this happens. It starts TODAY.


Ridge

Thanks to the few who provided actual helpful answers.

Gman,
in one post you say nothing was deleted or edited in another you say "well you did delete some stuff but only because it was a conspiracy against you" Talk about be frigging paranoid, a Conspiracy is what the great Dick Nixon did, not some poster calling you out because you can't sem to stop bashing our government, yet you have complained when ppl do it to conservative policy, Ridge wants to add his two cents and make it a game, I myself am tired of it. You guys can call it what you will, talk whatever crap about me that you would like and continue to move forward with the five or 8 of you who constantly post your conservative crap. I want off the board, after 5+ years of being here almost on a daily basis yet I only have 400 some post I have come to the realization I have no life as I have allowed this stupid board to get the best of me and my emotions. Like Dorby who has not been around for some time now Hmm I wonder why??? and Hobo I believe in humanity and equality, For some reason the 5 or 8 of you guys who constantly bash or throw you political views into any post you can seem to think you are always right and have an answer to everything, bottom line is your **** stinks just like mine does so get used to it and realize it.
I no longer wish to be affiliated with this board and have looked all over for a way to delete my account with no luck, so when one of you great MODS finds the time would you please pm me with directions as to how to delete my account or better yet just delete it for me. It is time for me to leave this Bull **** behind....


Respectfully,

Timberwolf

While this is generally correct, there are some exceptions to that wisdom. Certain jurisdictions or judges may not follow the accepted guidelines. When I lived in Orange County, Florida, there was a judge (James Stroker was his name) whose publicly stated goal was to have sentenced over one million years of prison time before he retired. He passed his goal by over 100k years by the time he actually left the bench in 2002 (I think). A quick Google search will return myriad articles about this guy. I’m all for punishment for misdeeds, but I’m also in favor of justice. Judge Stroker never let the concept of “justice” get in his way while sentencing defendants. He was more interested in votes than anything else. That judge was by no means unique, and Orange County’s reputation for locking people up isn’t either.

I think the most important thing is a good work record and proof of stability once a person is released from prison. Recidivism rates are pretty high with many crimes, but some people actually do rehabilitate. So many people never get caught in their crimes and you’d happily employ them. At least with a guy with a record, he knows he’d better not screw up again, and you know what he has done in the past so you know what to watch out for.

Wow. Yet another satisfied customer.

Is this a fall on ones sword post ????????????? :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

And buh-bye.....:lol2::lol2::lol2:

If you no longer want to be associated with the board all you need to do is stop posting. :roll:

Awah, come on back after you take a break Wolf. :thumbsup:
You have to know your words have hurts feelings just as much, and you agreed to play with your big boy thong on, even though that was admitting to a Crime Against Nature.

I can't suggest you stay off the political posts for awhile, but you know you can block members you don't like to hear from.

Hello... you still there? WTF!....he blocked me. :lol:

Oh well...I get that allot. That's okay, I often block most of my crap too. :block:

I am definatley being a martar. I know my short-comings all to well, however It is time to leave as I am just tired of beig affiliated with this type of group. The reason you wont let me or anyone else delete their account is that it looks better for you to have 17,000 members, however how many realize only 50 to 100 are active on a weekly basis. does not say to much about the board.

See ya..