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Originally Posted by Hawkjr
(Post 436144)
Lebron Makes his return!!!! And surely will be dismissed soon!!
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You can make as much or more money otr as you can local. Some of these who criticize and put down otr drivers like to brag about how much they make driving local compared to otr. That may or may not be true. It depends on the carrier and how well you work. Some of the large union companies are cutting back and closing part of their businesses. Just yesterday I heard that Schneider, Roadway and one other company has closed part of their operations in Atlanta. Unions are on the way out. They have priced themselves out of the market. Performance based pay is likely to continue to be the way of growth in this industry. It makes sense, especially in a troubled economy. When things are good it works well for everyone. If things are bad with the economy then the hourly workers are the first to go. There is no need to continue putting otr drivers down. If you have something to say about a specific situation or carrier then note it. Your constantly putting down otr drivers needs to stop.
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Originally Posted by GMAN
(Post 436158)
Some of the large union companies are cutting back and closing part of their businesses. Just yesterday I heard that Schneider, Roadway and one other company has closed part of their operations in Atlanta. Unions are on the way out. They have priced themselves out of the market. Performance based pay is likely to continue to be the way of growth in this industry. It makes sense, especially in a troubled economy. When things are good it works well for everyone. If things are bad with the economy then the hourly workers are the first to go.
Also I don't see alot of independents doing any better in this economy. Just check the loadboards and the rates being hauled, many O/O are paying the shippers to haul freight. I see alot of independents stuck in truckstops due to no loads. Many have parked or lost their rigs. There is no need to continue putting otr drivers down. If you have something to say about a specific situation or carrier then note it. Your constantly putting down otr drivers needs to stop. "Part of the job" as many say. |
Originally Posted by GMAN
(Post 436158)
If you have something to say about a specific situation or carrier then note it. Your constantly putting down otr drivers needs to stop.
Quote: Originally Posted by golfhobo http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif And, in most cases, you will work HARDER, and even possibly longer hours than OTR. Crappy local jobs, yes. fact Good local jobs, no. fact Good or crappy OTR job...it doesn't matter. You WILL work over 70 hours per week and you will not see home. Anytime you combine a logbook with a sleeper berth, you are going to get ripped off. OK biased opinion Good local jobs rarely advertise because nobody leaves those gigs. Generally, someone has to die, get fired, or retire for an opening. Who in their right mind would give up a local job that pays good and gets the driver home every night with weekends off? Fact Especially when the driver can make just as much or more money than living out of a tin can for 2+ weeks and peeing in parking lots. biased opinion Good local jobs are the holy grail of trucking.opinion Quote: Originally Posted by Colts Fan http://www.classadrivers.com/forum/i...s/viewpost.gif Both local and OTR can suck. Slow economy=no freight=no miles. Slow economy=no freight= no hours. Maybe if your friends with a bunch of losers and you need to "turn your life around" then OTR would be best. It's hard to believe R&L would hire a recent grad in this economy. The market is currently flooded with layed off, experienced drivers. When freight is slow at a local job, you go home early. fact When freight is slow in OTR, you sit in the truckstop.fact If the local job is slow, you can always get a part-time job to pick up the slack until things get better. Or you can go to school and take classes on the side. If the OTR job is slow, you sit in the truckstop. fact If I never see another truckstop again in my life, it will be too soon. Done with the hookers, greenhorns who can't back, people selling cheap/stolen goods, panhandlers, bums, idiots cruising along at 10 mph with the jakes on.opinion Sorry but I dont think any of this is offensive. The board has to allow for debate or else why even exist. Are we that thin skinned? I agree if it turns out to be CFM then its old and tiring but I dont think this is CFM and the writer is entitled to his/her opinion. I also think alot of drivers wrestle with the decision to go OTR or local. They want the information and opinions. Both sides, good and bad. The original poster is one of them and he is entitled to hear it all, good bad or indifferent. |
Originally Posted by Mo Miles
(Post 436184)
I see alot of independents stuck in truckstops due to no loads. Many have parked or lost their rigs.
I thought you were never in the truck stop?
Originally Posted by Mo Miles
(Post 436184)
If I never see another truckstop again in my life, it will be too soon. Done with the hookers, greenhorns who can't back, people selling cheap/stolen goods, panhandlers, bums, idiots cruising along at 10 mph with the jakes on.
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Speedway, Indiana.... on my way home this morning at 1AM. 10 inches of snow outside home this morning. Going back to climb under my blanky......
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Quote: It's gonna be real interesting when alot of these "local" jobs get cut in the next few months, and the so called truck drivers can't get a job with an otr company because they have no otr experience in the last few years.
IF MY LOCAL GIG DIES I RATHER GO TO BK OR MCD's BEFORE I GO BACK TO OTR!!! |
Originally Posted by unclehotte
(Post 436199)
Quote: It's gonna be real interesting when alot of these "local" jobs get cut in the next few months, and the so called truck drivers can't get a job with an otr company because they have no otr experience in the last few years.
IF MY LOCAL GIG DIES I RATHER GO TO BK OR MCD's BEFORE I GO BACK TO OTR!!! |
Originally Posted by unclehotte
(Post 436199)
Quote: It's gonna be real interesting when alot of these "local" jobs get cut in the next few months, and the so called truck drivers can't get a job with an otr company because they have no otr experience in the last few years.
IF MY LOCAL GIG DIES I RATHER GO TO BK OR MCD's BEFORE I GO BACK TO OTR!!! |
I also think alot of drivers wrestle with the decision to go OTR or local. They want the information and opinions. Both sides, good and bad. The original poster is one of them and he is entitled to hear it all, good bad or indifferent.[/QUOTE]
thank you sir!!! good looking out~! |
Originally Posted by Snowman7
(Post 436147)
Nah I don't think so. It's not Lebron's style. There's only one Leb...er I mean 2, er 3...ah forget it! This aint him!:lol:
Originally Posted by Mo Miles
(Post 435660)
Aw man you owe me a new laptop and keyboard after I spit beer all over from laughing so hard! :clap::lol:
Former Big Blue Screw driver myself. What a cut-rate, low-ball, underhanded trucking company that was. I started as a driver, trained, even bought a trick and hired on with them. Best move of my life was getting away from that den of thieves. How they sleep at night up there in Omaha is a mystery to me. Heard all the top brass were cut some big fat bonus checks from old man CL this year. Must be nice. Too bad the drivers got zilch. So you got a local job huh? Smart move. I'm looking for one myself. I ran under my own flag for awhile but there's no money in being an independent anymore, at least no good money. Too many O/O willing to pay the shipper to haul freight. Too many cut-throat brokers. Government talking about hooking-up an EOBR in your truck. Just not worth it anymore.
Originally Posted by Mike Hunt
(Post 424618)
Sir, thank you for putting into words what I've been feeling for awhile now out here on the road. Lordy if I could turn back the clock and have another go why there's NO WAY I'd be a over the road truckdriver. But like George Jones sang "you live and you die with the choices you make."
I'm just a greybeard now and events in my life played out to put me here on the road behind the wheel. Too old to learn another trade but too young to hang up my spurs for good. When the mill I worked at shutdown, I answered an add in the paper promising free training, home weekends, and good pay. Well, like the old saying goes if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is and lo and behold here I am working 14 hours getting paid for 10 and sitting in truckstops over the weekend. As far as "good pay" well look at it like this: as a millright I made $55,000 working 10 hour days 5 days a week. Now I'm working round the clock on track to make $42,000. Oh well, just biding my time till I turn 62 and then I'll collect social security and never ever set foot in a commerical vehicle again. I don't know how you young men do this job with a family and a pretty wife or girlfriend at home who misses you. Even if the job paid double I wouldn't do it, no sir not for all the aggravation, DOT, getting jerked around by dispatch and brokers, never seeing home, I tell you they can all take this job and SHOVE IT. Well now I'm gonna enjoy a smoke and listen to some Trisha Yearwood on the radio. Gotta get up early and go play in Chicago snow and traffic tomorrow. Almost clipped a bridge last time I was up here. Who knows what more fun is in store for me? :confused: |
Originally Posted by mike3fan
(Post 436187)
It's gonna be real interesting when alot of these "local" jobs get cut in the next few months, and the so called truck drivers can't get a job with an otr company because they have no otr experience in the last few years. With a local job you might find the time to acquire some additional skills or start-up a business so that you will not have to go back to living in a sardine can. Are you trying to imply that someone with marketable skills other steering wheel holdin' is not a "truck driver"? |
Originally Posted by Hawkjr
(Post 436217)
now you still think its not its style :lol:
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Originally Posted by mike3fan
(Post 436201)
thats why I said "so called truck drivers" most local guys I know are just guys with jobs that happen to involve driving a truck.
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Originally Posted by Snowman7
(Post 436290)
Yup. Been reading him for 4 years and thats not him.
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Originally Posted by Snowman7
(Post 436291)
I respectfully have to disagree Mike. I have done OTR. I have hauled steel. I pull doubles and triples. I run several states. As you know I am a road driver now even though I am home daily most of the time. And I have done local P&D. I can tell you without a doubt P&D is the most difficult driving I've ever done. I hate P&D. There is nothing hard about OTR. Talk about true steering wheel holders. And I can say that because I'm one too. Tell me how you're any more of a "true truck driver" than I am. What because you sleep in your truck? We all have different experiences but your crazy if you think I can't do your job and I'd be crazy to think you couldn't do mine. As for finding an OTR job you bring up a valid point. I cant speak for everyone but if I needed one I'm pretty sure I could. And I would if it came to that.
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You're a pretty level headed guy Mike and I always like to read what you have to say. I wasn't sure where you and I were headed on that last topic but you reaffirmed my belief that your a good egg! :thumbsup:
Plus I was afraid you wouldnt let me play in your FFL anymore.:bow: |
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
(Post 436304)
You would be wrong in that assessment. An IP trace confirmed it.
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Originally Posted by Snowman7
(Post 436318)
uh OK I was wwrrrrrr...wwwrrrrroo....I was wrrooooo....give a minute. This is hard for me.
"Misinformed" works.:thumbsup: |
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