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raganok2008 09-25-2008 01:44 PM

want to become a truck driver
 
hi my name is carlos and i have a question, i am from mexico and i want to work as a truck driver in USA, i wanted to know if theres any program or company that would sponsor me to work in the US, i lived in the US most of my life bu now i am back in mexico, i have been looking for a way to do this but i just cant find the right place, i am a webmaster but want to become a truck driver, been driving 7 years a 32 passenger bus,
Thanks to all, hope i can find the answer here thanks....
:D

raganok2008 09-25-2008 02:33 PM

any comments would be very appreciated i really want to workin a trucking company in the US

GMAN 09-25-2008 03:34 PM

You might check with some of the U.S. carriers who are in Mexico. Celedon has a terminal just across the border according to one of their driver with whom I spoke. I am sure that there are others. Several of them train inexperienced drivers. I don't know much about any of the Mexican carriers, but you might check with them to see if they have any sort of program.

BigDiesel 09-25-2008 03:52 PM

Re: want to become a truck driver
 

Originally Posted by raganok2008
hi my name is carlos and i have a question, i am from mexico and i want to work as a truck driver in USA, i wanted to know if theres any program or company that would sponsor me to work in the US, i lived in the US most of my life bu now i am back in mexico, i have been looking for a way to do this but i just cant find the right place, i am a webmaster but want to become a truck driver, been driving 7 years a 32 passenger bus,
Thanks to all, hope i can find the answer here thanks....
:D

Sorry but truckdriving jobs in the United States are only for US born citizens only !!!

raganok2008 09-25-2008 03:56 PM

does this celedon has a website or someway to contact them.
i hope i can find someone willing to help me out there i really want to work as a driver
thanks in advance.....

raganok2008 09-25-2008 03:58 PM

big diesel thanks for the comment but i think you are wrong. thanks anyways ill keep looking......

JeffTheTerrible 09-25-2008 03:59 PM

Re: want to become a truck driver
 

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Sorry but truckdriving jobs in the United States are only for US born citizens only !!!

Really? Why didn't anyone inform me of this six years ago?

raganok2008 09-25-2008 04:03 PM

lol.... you see big diesel i think you have a racism problem.
thanks JeffTheTerrible. i lived in the states for more than 14 years and i love the USA.....

Roadhog 09-25-2008 04:35 PM

There has been a history of abuse by companies hiring immigrant truck drivers in the past, not to mention an increase in security concerns, that finding companies willing to sponsor foreign workers is more difficult now.

Also, the U.S. Government has cut back on work visas by about one half, and finding a company now, is not going to be easy. They come under a lot of scrutiny, beside the fact we are in an economic downturn, and we do not have any driver shortage for the moment.

That is not to say, good jobs and companies willing to help with visas are not available. I live on the northern boarder, and see companies up here working with people to fill positions in Canada/USA.
Maybe as Gman suggested, your best bet is to research border companies near you in Mexico/USA.

JeffTheTerrible 09-25-2008 04:38 PM

The actual reason for my response was because of my not being a US citizen, either, though I am eligible for citizenship.

raganok2008 09-25-2008 04:45 PM

but you are legal and what bgdiesel meant was that only us born are able to work as truck drivers.....well i think ill do what gman said look for border companies near you in Mexico/USA. i actually live near tijuana border with san diego ca....

Roadhog 09-25-2008 04:53 PM

I just looked up your location. You have some fantastic beaches there. I'd trade places with you...now that winter is just around the corner!! :lol:
Plus, I love those hott Latino ladies with a Spanish accent. :D

That area should be loaded with Truck Companies. Let us know what you find out.
Good luck, regards...Roadhog

BigDiesel 09-25-2008 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by raganok2008
but you are legal and what bgdiesel meant was that only us born are able to work as truck drivers.....well i think ill do what gman said look for border companies near you in Mexico/USA. i actually live near tijuana border with san diego ca....

Don't need anymore illegals taking jobs away from US citizens......

Maybe you could have an anchor baby born here, and when they turn 18 they could petition the INS for your citizenship........

raganok2008 09-25-2008 05:05 PM

hq ha ha ha bigdiesel your loko en la cabeza. i dont need to listen to dumb stuff i just need information not a racist person i think you should go and take care of love ones and stop bugging people.....nobody is taken your jobs its just that someone has to do what you guys cant do for a very very low payment. leasen to the news you might see whats happening i love the US ive lived ther half of my life.. please dont take this personal i aint its just things roll have fun bigdiesel maybe you enjoy what you are doing but well life goes on and no stupid comment will make me stop trying to reach my dreams...
ps. live and let live.....

BigDiesel 09-25-2008 05:13 PM

I enjoy torturing trolls...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ridge Runner 09-25-2008 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by BigDiesel

Originally Posted by raganok2008
but you are legal and what bgdiesel meant was that only us born are able to work as truck drivers.....well i think ill do what gman said look for border companies near you in Mexico/USA. i actually live near tijuana border with san diego ca....

Don't need anymore illegals taking jobs away from US citizens......

Maybe you could have an anchor baby born here, and when they turn 18 they could petition the INS for your citizenship........


Big D. You are about to cross a line that you really don't want to cross. The man ask an honest question. His IP seems to be OK. As long as he follows the LEGAL route I for one have NO problem with him. If he ask how he could sneak across the border and steal a job from someone else because he would work for less..... then I would have a problem.

Enough said! :evil:

Ridge

raganok2008 09-25-2008 05:18 PM

lol.... your not torturing me you are making me stronger, i put my heart and faith in god......

raganok2008 09-25-2008 05:25 PM

you know i lived in the states for almost half of my life i got out of the united states 4years ago, i am 25 all the time i lived there i never had dui's parking tickets, speed tickets never went to jailnever had a problem, now i want to go back but i dont want to doit the wrong way, i really want to work in the US but will doit the right way with a work permit.....
thanks for the comment Ridge Runner.......

JeffTheTerrible 09-25-2008 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by raganok2008
but you are legal and what bgdiesel meant was that only us born are able to work as truck drivers.....well i think ill do what gman said look for border companies near you in Mexico/USA. i actually live near tijuana border with san diego ca....

I wasn't born in the US, either.

How come you didn't establish yourself as a permanent resident if you were here for 14 years? It probably would've made this much easier for you to do if you had went ahead and done that.

raganok2008 09-25-2008 05:33 PM

hi Jeff the reason its because when my mom died i had to come back to mexico at the age of 15 my dad brought me back to the US came back to mexico and got married have a kid, i asked a lot of people if i could fix my situation but i always got a no for an answer. now i am 25 i want to go to the US but i want to do it the right way because no i am doing it my self, because nobody its taking me. i hope i get a chance in life and take advantage of it.

JeffTheTerrible 09-25-2008 05:37 PM

I can definitely understand that, then. I apologise for not being able to provide you with any useful information, but I wish you the best of luck.

BigDiesel 09-25-2008 05:41 PM

:lol:

raganok2008 09-25-2008 05:41 PM

thanks jeff, and let me tell you that if i ever make it i will be rolling for a long time..... take care and well thanks for the time you took to chat ,.......

Rev.Vassago 09-25-2008 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by BigDiesel
I enjoy torturing trolls...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:

coastie 09-25-2008 09:16 PM

Re: want to become a truck driver
 

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
:D

Sorry but truckdriving jobs in the United States are only for US born citizens only !!!

MMmmmm I seen Russians, Arabs, India, Chinese,

rgarthman1969 09-25-2008 11:41 PM

:wink:

raganok2008 09-26-2008 09:24 AM

sooner or later i know i will make it to the states and i will be legal worker.....

ct77 09-26-2008 12:11 PM

Raganook, wish you best of luck, took me forever to get my german wife a visa and work permit plus tons of application fees and lots of other hurdles. I know it will take a while also if I remember correctly it took me almost two years before I had everything back from immigration. Best bet is check with the nearest embassy or the website for which type of visa would be best for you or the company you wish to work for.

charged 09-26-2008 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by raganok2008
hq ha ha ha bigdiesel your loko en la cabeza. i dont need to listen to dumb stuff i just need information not a racist person.....

I think he is loco too, but why do you call him a racist? I'm pretty sure hispanic or latino isn't a race.

charged 09-26-2008 01:14 PM

Re: want to become a truck driver
 

Originally Posted by BigDiesel
Sorry but truckdriving jobs in the United States are only for US born citizens only !!!

Tell that to all of the naturalized citizens driving around or to all of the permanent residents who have permission to work.

Rev.Vassago 09-26-2008 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by charged
I'm pretty sure hispanic or latino isn't a race.

Just as with everything else, you'd be wrong. :roll:

raganok2008 09-26-2008 01:29 PM

charged wrote:
Tell that to all of the naturalized citizens driving around or to all of the permanent residents who have permission to work.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination

While the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and hotly contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups. The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."


Legal
The UN does not define "racism", however it does define "racial discrimination": according to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life. '[1]

This definition does not make any difference between prosecutions based on ethnicity and race, in part because the distinction between the two remains debatable among anthropologists.[2] According to British law, racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin".[3]


Sociological
Some sociologists have defined racism as a system of group privilege. In Portraits of White Racism David Wellman (1993) has defined racism as "culturally sanctioned beliefs, which, regardless of intentions involved, defend the advantages whites have because of the subordinated position of racial minorities,” (Wellman 1993: x). Sociologists Noel Cazenave and Darlene Alvarez Maddern define racism as “...a highly organized system of 'race'-based group privilege that operates at every level of society and is held together by a sophisticated ideology of color/'race' supremacy. Racist systems include, but cannot be reduced to, racial bigotry,” (Cazenave and Maddern 1999: 42). Sociologist and former American Sociological Association president Joe Feagin argues that the United States can be characterized as a "total racist society" because racism is used to organize every social institution (Feagin 2000, p. 16).

More recently, Feagin has articulated a comprehensive theory of racial oppression in the U.S. in his book Systemic Racism: A Theory of Oppression (Routledge, 2006). Feagin examines how major institutions have been built upon racial oppression which was not an accident of history, but was created intentionally by white Americans. In Feagin's view, white Americans labored hard to create a system of racial oppression in the 17th century and have worked diligently to maintain the system ever since. While Feagin acknowledges that changes have occurred in this racist system over the centuries, he contends that key and fundamental elements have been reproduced over nearly four centuries, and that U.S. institutions today reflect the racialized hierarchy created in the 17th century. Today, as in the past, racial oppression is not just a surface-level feature of this society, but rather pervades, permeates, and interconnects all major social groups, networks, and institutions across the society. Feagin's definition stands in sharp contrast to psychological definitions that assume racism is an "attitude" or an irrational form of bigotry that exists apart from the organization of social structure.


Racial discrimination is treating people differently through a process of social division into categories not necessarily related to race. Racial segregation policies may officialize it, but it is also often exerted without being legalized. Researchers, including Dean Karlan and Marianne Bertrand, at the MIT and the University of Chicago found in a 2003 study that there was widespread discrimination in the workplace against job applicants whose names were merely perceived as "sounding black". These applicants were 50% less likely than candidates perceived as having "white-sounding names" to receive callbacks for interviews. The researchers view these results as strong evidence of unconscious biases rooted in the United States' long history of discrimination (i.e. Jim Crow laws, etc.)[4]


Institutional
Further information: Institutional racism, State racism, Affirmative action, Racial profiling, and Racism by country
Institutional racism (also known as structural racism, state racism or systemic racism) is racial discrimination by governments, corporations, educational institutions or other large organizations with the power to influence the lives of many individuals. Stokely Carmichael is credited for coining the phrase institutional racism in the late 1960s. He defined the term as "the collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture or ethnic origin".[5]

Maulana Karenga argued that racism constituted the destruction of culture, language, religion and human possibility, and that the effects of racism were "the morally monstrous destruction of human possibility involved redefining African humanity to the world, poisoning past, present and future relations with others who only know us through this stereotyping and thus damaging the truly human relations among peoples."[6]

In economics
Historical economic or social disparity is alleged to be a form of discrimination which is caused by past racism and historical reasons, affecting the present generation through deficits in the formal education and kinds of preparation in the parents' generation, and, through primarily unconscious racist attitudes and actions on members of the general population. (e.g. A member of race Y, Mary, has her opportunities adversely affected (directly and/or indirectly) by the mistreatment of her ancestors of race Y.) The common hypothesis embraced by classical economists is that competition in a capitalist economy decreases the impact of discrimination. The thinking behind the hypothesis is that discrimination imposes a cost on the employer, and thus a profit-driven employer will avoid racist hiring policies.

Double R 09-26-2008 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by raganok2008
charged wrote:
Tell that to all of the naturalized citizens driving around or to all of the permanent residents who have permission to work.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION:

Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination

While the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and hotly contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups. The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."


Legal
The UN does not define "racism", however it does define "racial discrimination": according to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life. '[1]

This definition does not make any difference between prosecutions based on ethnicity and race, in part because the distinction between the two remains debatable among anthropologists.[2] According to British law, racial group means "any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin".[3]


Sociological
Some sociologists have defined racism as a system of group privilege. In Portraits of White Racism David Wellman (1993) has defined racism as "culturally sanctioned beliefs, which, regardless of intentions involved, defend the advantages whites have because of the subordinated position of racial minorities,” (Wellman 1993: x). Sociologists Noel Cazenave and Darlene Alvarez Maddern define racism as “...a highly organized system of 'race'-based group privilege that operates at every level of society and is held together by a sophisticated ideology of color/'race' supremacy. Racist systems include, but cannot be reduced to, racial bigotry,” (Cazenave and Maddern 1999: 42). Sociologist and former American Sociological Association president Joe Feagin argues that the United States can be characterized as a "total racist society" because racism is used to organize every social institution (Feagin 2000, p. 16).

More recently, Feagin has articulated a comprehensive theory of racial oppression in the U.S. in his book Systemic Racism: A Theory of Oppression (Routledge, 2006). Feagin examines how major institutions have been built upon racial oppression which was not an accident of history, but was created intentionally by white Americans. In Feagin's view, white Americans labored hard to create a system of racial oppression in the 17th century and have worked diligently to maintain the system ever since. While Feagin acknowledges that changes have occurred in this racist system over the centuries, he contends that key and fundamental elements have been reproduced over nearly four centuries, and that U.S. institutions today reflect the racialized hierarchy created in the 17th century. Today, as in the past, racial oppression is not just a surface-level feature of this society, but rather pervades, permeates, and interconnects all major social groups, networks, and institutions across the society. Feagin's definition stands in sharp contrast to psychological definitions that assume racism is an "attitude" or an irrational form of bigotry that exists apart from the organization of social structure.


Racial discrimination is treating people differently through a process of social division into categories not necessarily related to race. Racial segregation policies may officialize it, but it is also often exerted without being legalized. Researchers, including Dean Karlan and Marianne Bertrand, at the MIT and the University of Chicago found in a 2003 study that there was widespread discrimination in the workplace against job applicants whose names were merely perceived as "sounding black". These applicants were 50% less likely than candidates perceived as having "white-sounding names" to receive callbacks for interviews. The researchers view these results as strong evidence of unconscious biases rooted in the United States' long history of discrimination (i.e. Jim Crow laws, etc.)[4]


Institutional
Further information: Institutional racism, State racism, Affirmative action, Racial profiling, and Racism by country
Institutional racism (also known as structural racism, state racism or systemic racism) is racial discrimination by governments, corporations, educational institutions or other large organizations with the power to influence the lives of many individuals. Stokely Carmichael is credited for coining the phrase institutional racism in the late 1960s. He defined the term as "the collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture or ethnic origin".[5]

Maulana Karenga argued that racism constituted the destruction of culture, language, religion and human possibility, and that the effects of racism were "the morally monstrous destruction of human possibility involved redefining African humanity to the world, poisoning past, present and future relations with others who only know us through this stereotyping and thus damaging the truly human relations among peoples."[6]

In economics
Historical economic or social disparity is alleged to be a form of discrimination which is caused by past racism and historical reasons, affecting the present generation through deficits in the formal education and kinds of preparation in the parents' generation, and, through primarily unconscious racist attitudes and actions on members of the general population. (e.g. A member of race Y, Mary, has her opportunities adversely affected (directly and/or indirectly) by the mistreatment of her ancestors of race Y.) The common hypothesis embraced by classical economists is that competition in a capitalist economy decreases the impact of discrimination. The thinking behind the hypothesis is that discrimination imposes a cost on the employer, and thus a profit-driven employer will avoid racist hiring policies.

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raganok2008 09-26-2008 01:45 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

JeffTheTerrible 09-26-2008 03:42 PM

BigDiesel, a racist? I really haven't seen anything of him to indicate that he is. He has more or less an equal opportunity policy about who he'll act like an ass towards, without any differentiation of race, creed, gender, etc.

Ridge Runner 09-26-2008 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by JeffTheTerrible
BigDiesel, a racist? I really haven't seen anything of him to indicate that he is. He has more or less an equal opportunity policy about who he'll act like an ass towards, without any differentiation of race, creed, gender, etc.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

eastern ontario 09-26-2008 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by JeffTheTerrible
BigDiesel, a racist? I really haven't seen anything of him to indicate that he is. He has more or less an equal opportunity policy about who he'll act like an ass towards, without any differentiation of race, creed, gender, etc.

Sounds like our BD to me.

raganok2008 09-26-2008 04:21 PM

My friends i am not here to start a fight or something else i just need to know or find out if i can get any help....i am just one more person looking for a job the only diference is that i am not a US citizen....
thanks for your comments though...

eastern ontario 09-26-2008 04:34 PM

If I can add to this....you wanna be a truck driver.......NEVER FORGET YOUR SENSE OF HAHA AT HOME OR AT THE LAST TS!

Rev.Vassago 09-26-2008 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by raganok2008
My friends i am not here to start a fight or something else i just need to know or find out if i can get any help....i am just one more person looking for a job the only diference is that i am not a US citizen....
thanks for your comments though...

Step 1: Become a US citizen

Step 2: Go to a truck driving school. Pay for it yourself, without government assistance

Step 3: Apply at trucking companies.


You're welcome.


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