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A company offering crappy wages isn't always hauling cheap freight. They offer cheap wages because they know someone will be desperate enough to TAKE the wage. When those drivers stop accepting that...THEN things will change. I only make a decent living because I work hard. I don't say NO just to spite my face. It is all dependant on each drivers attitude. You won't take $12.00 an hour...I would take the wage...if there was something else on the table with it. If there wasn't, I am not afraid to name my price. When I say $24.40 an hour to work local...I know that I am worth that much..regardless of the "Locale". My driving history and my work record support that wage. I turned down an offer from ABF here, because it was a BS offer...and they knew it. I have laughed at countless offers from companies with the means to pay my rate. When they countered to me that their offer was "The prevailing wage", I told them to go hire the "Prevailing" driver then. I know what I am worth. THEY get what they pay for. They don't pay for me...they don't get me. If I drive your truck, I am money in the bank. I know that when I leave the gate in a truck, it is going to re-enter that gate, in the same condition in which it left. The cargo is going to arrive at it's destination in the exact condition in which it was loaded.......I am money in the bank and expect to paid as such. I am not afraid to tell a company so. How many other drivers are willing or able to step up and say that? |
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All they've done is OTR...maybe some multi-stop stuff but never with the heavy pressure to get stops off like we do. I'd love to see one of these guys cover my route...22 stops in 8-9 hours (2.5 stops per hour) delivering to funeral homes, car washes, trailer parks, hotels, banks, conveience stores, schools...wheeling stuff into the mall then blindsiding off a 2-lane highway at rush hour. Then take a long-box down a residential street and hope you can get turned around. Start your deliveries at 0800 and by 1200 they're giving you pickups and you've still got 8 stops to get off. One shipper closing at 1400, another at 1500, another at 1600. Gotta mix the pickups in with the drops and somehow find a way to make those delivery appointments. Bring back stops and you get written up. Keep bringing back stops and you get fired. If these guys did my job, they'd be gone in a few days...which is why we won't hire OTR for city work...everybody quits or gets fired. |
Snowman, I don't sit around waiting for $4/mile freight. I never stated that I got $4/mile for ALL my loads. I do place a high value on my services. And I am a good negotiator. I will hold out for the rate I want or deadhead out to a good area. I had a truck running up and down I-5 much of the first quarter and wasn't getting nearly as high a rate as we are getting on the East Coast, especially the last part of the second quarter and going into the third quarter. As far as sharing is concerned, I don't mind sharing. I probably won't be talking about rates that I get. Those who don't or can't get the same rates, do not want to hear it. They assume that if they aren't getting good rates, that no one else is either. All it does is confuse people.
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16 years of delivering gas in the seattle market will teach you some things. We had a driver at the terminal that transfered from Philly...wasn't a day he didn't wish he was back in Philly. |
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When I worked at the mill driving a fork lift I paid 2% union dues. Some pays were as high as $100. per week dues deductions. I wish they could they could take a $1000. per week. |
This generalization is what is causing the riff.
Many of us here work hard regardless, and many of us here have experience in both Local and OTR. I could easily describe all the picks and drops and difficulty of my typical OTR runs...and bumping the same tiny East Coast docks with a 270" wheelbase Pete and a 53' Reefer...sticking out 30 feet past most Local rigs. I might even have to unload my own, just to get the job done so I can get the hell back on the road to cover my next stop...because some "union truck" which came in after me, is going get unloaded first. OTR cover multiple picks and drops challenging the weight/per axle math and are hunting for docks in a new location where they've never been before on a regular basis. There are different challenges, but schedules JUST as hard to keep, and with great odds to make happen. (some with fines if you are late) All the arguments I've read so far are justifiably so, but I can not see how one gets an Atta-Boy more than the next driver. :D But it's how we like to communicate between each other. Notice I got in my union priority stab...and my 30' of superiority. :lol: |
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Some of us have done LTL and driven locally. Some of us have a good understanding of what it takes to drive local because we have done it. We just prefer otr. |
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