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eddie23949 08-05-2008 01:22 PM

Are there any companies that will hire a guy with 2 DWI's?
 
I recently graduated from a driving school and have a class A license. Now, I'm looking for a job.

Problem is that I've made some mistakes in the past and I have two DIW's on my record. One is eight years old; the other is seven. All of that was in another life and I no longer drink.

Does anyone know of any companies that will hire a recent grad with a record like mine? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 02:08 PM

Re: Are there any companies that will hire a guy with 2 DWI'
 
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Originally Posted by eddie23949

Does anyone know of any companies that will hire a recent grad with a record like mine?

I hope not. Sadly, there probably is.

Quote:

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Build a time machine, go back in time and actually do some research before you fork out money for driving school, because in today's economy, people with records cleaner than yours are having trouble finding driving jobs.

eddie23949 08-05-2008 02:27 PM

Thanks Rev. I can tell by your reply that you're a really compassionate guy. Your help is really appreciated.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Thanks Rev. I can tell by your reply that you're a really compassionate guy. Your help is really appreciated.

Would you rather I sugarcoat it?

The truth is that the industry has too many drivers right now, and companies have gotten a lot more picky on who they hire. As a 2 time offender, you have 2 HUGE strikes against you. Some research before you went to school would have told you this.

You'll find no love here based on those 2 DWI's.

eddie23949 08-05-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Thanks Rev. I can tell by your reply that you're a really compassionate guy. Your help is really appreciated.

Would you rather I sugarcoat it? ...

...You'll find no love here based on those 2 DWI's.

No, I wouldn't rather you sugarcoat it. However, your response of "I hope not" was nothing short of a personal slam, hence my comment about how compassionate you obviously are.

You sound like a guy who takes great delight in, and derives great joy from the difficulties of others. In other words, you sound like a WONDERFUL human being and I would love to have you as a neighbor!! :roll:

BTW, just curious, but, are you a real Rev.? If so, you obviously got your ordination from one of those free on-line places that just hand them out to anybody.

P.S. I can't tell you how sorry I am about your truck burning up and I certainly hope it never happens to you again. :roll:

Have a nice day Rev.

flood 08-05-2008 03:57 PM

you may not like it and THE REV NEVER sugar-coats anything. but the fact is that in this industry you will find drivers that will forgive this or that but you will be very hard pressed to fine anyone that will cut you any slack for one DWL let alone two..! about the only thing worse would be DRUGS

sorry but thats the facts.

chuck3507 08-05-2008 04:15 PM

Anybody that will hire you with 2 DWI's probably isn't worth working for.

eddie23949 08-05-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by flood
you may not like it and THE REV NEVER sugar-coats anything. but the fact is that in this industry you will find drivers that will forgive this or that but you will be very hard pressed to fine anyone that will cut you any slack for one DWL let alone two..! about the only thing worse would be DRUGS

sorry but thats the facts.

And that's fine by me. I was merely stating the obvious about the Rev. and his incapacity for compassion.

Also, I'm not asking anyone for any slack. I know I made mistakes in the past. I also know that my MVR is spotless for the last seven years.

What I asked was simple: Does anyone know of any companies that will hire a guy like me....and right off the bat, the good Rev. responds with a personal slam. What a stand-up guy!! Guess that it's not in him and others to recognize that someone has repented of their past ways.

I agree....people should be ostracized, criticized, condemned, cajoled and shunned FOREVER for things they've done in the past. :roll:

An appropriate answer to my original question would have been "No". Or, simply no answer.

But, I AM glad that I was able to furnish the good Rev. with a way to get his rocks off by offering him the opportunity to throw stones at somebody. It's probably the only way he has to "get off". Glad to have helped him out.

marylandkw 08-05-2008 04:47 PM

Maybe but not likely. You are certainly not going to be able to goto a first rate company until several more years have passed. I think I heard the magic number was 10 years but don't quote me on that.

The one thing you MUST do is be honest with everyone. Tell them right up front about your record. Do not wait until you invest money and time getting to Orientation to only receive a boot out the door.

The rev is spot on when he says there is a dearth of jobs right now and carriers can pick and choose their drivers. This will only complicate your search.

Colts Fan 08-05-2008 05:04 PM

What you need to do is go to a truck stop and get one of the free little magazine with all of the job advertisements. Call all of the companies, talk to a recruiter about your record and see what they say.

Or you could go through your phone book and see if there are any mom and pop outfits that might give you a chance. I'd say your best bet would be an outlaw reefer outfit or something.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie23949

No, I wouldn't rather you sugarcoat it. However, your response of "I hope not" was nothing short of a personal slam, hence my comment about how compassionate you obviously are.

Let me ask you this: If a pilot got nailed twice for flying his personal airplane drunk, and then he applied for a pilot position at a commercial airline, would you want to get in a plane with him? Wouldn't you hope that the hiring criteria would automatically exclude him from ever being put in control of something that could potentially kill so many people?

Sadly, the trucking industry does not have the same tight hiring criteria that the airline industry has. I wish it did, because it would mean much better rates for those of us who would meet those criteria. You can take that personally if you'd like. I don't really care. I would question, however, why you take it so personally. Could it be because you know I'm right?

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You sound like a guy who takes great delight in, and derives great joy from the difficulties of others. In other words, you sound like a WONDERFUL human being and I would love to have you as a neighbor!! :roll:

BTW, just curious, but, are you a real Rev.? If so, you obviously got your ordination from one of those free on-line places that just hand them out to anybody.

P.S. I can't tell you how sorry I am about your truck burning up and I certainly hope it never happens to you again. :roll:
For a guy with two DWI's who can't find a driving job, you sure like to point fingers at other people. :lol:

Twilight Flyer 08-05-2008 06:41 PM

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I agree....people should be ostracized, criticized, condemned, cajoled and shunned FOREVER for things they've done in the past.
In this industry, that's exactly how it is. This industry, which holds the life of the motoring public in its hands 24/7, cannot afford to give someone another chance. 1 DUI is bad enough, but most carriers are willing to work with it, providing it's 5 or 7 or 10 years old. However, 2 DUI's indicates that you did not learn your lesson the first time, so why should we believe you learned your lesson the 2nd time? Right or wrong, this IS the perception and in my personal opinion, rightfully so.

Look at it from the company point of view. Any company that gives a driver another chance after 2 DUI's, may as well have a signed blank check ready for when and if that driver is involved in a serious accident, because it will take all of 10 seconds for a prosecuting attorney to say: "you hired this guy, knowing he had 2 DUI's in his past? Great. Just hand me the check, I'll fill in the amount myself."

So, the short answer to your question is NO. There are no companies out there (that I know of anyway), that will hire a driver with more than 1 DUI.

And most of the people on this board are going to agree with Rev and his lack of sugar-coating his answer. In this industry, there is simply no room for alcohol or drugs.

BigDiesel 08-05-2008 06:43 PM

Anyone who has poor decision making abilities, such as getting TWO DUI'S in such a short period of time, does not deserve to drive a CMV.







waiting for hobo to chime in...... since this subject is alcohol related.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 06:49 PM

If he would have gotten those two DWI's in a CMV, it wouldn't even be a question, because he would be disqualified for life.

It's a shame that a trucking school took advantage of this guy, but when push comes to shove, it was up to him to do the research, especially given his record.

Useless 08-05-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Thanks Rev. I can tell by your reply that you're a really compassionate guy. Your help is really appreciated.

Eddie23949:

Reality Check:

If you are looking or hoping to find compassion or forgiveness, you might find it in a church, but you will not find it in this industry. Many people who are not familiar with this industry, or those who are new to it, simply do not seem to grasp the fact that this in an industry where you play for keeps; part of that means that consequences are long term. The fact is that you have not one, but two convictions on your record, and that's just two too many for you to be a trucker. This is an industry where the term "Zero Tolerance" carries a very specific meaning.

I invite you to do a search on this very website of drivers who have failed drug tests..... these were guys who knew about the consequences of failing a drug test, yet they STILL went out and abused. When they get caught, they come here to CAD, telling their tales of woe, looking for help in getting back behind the wheel, and then when they are rebuffed, they cop major attitudes. In your case, we are talking about alcohol, which although legal, can be every bit as deadly.

Good drivers work to build and guard their reputations, and every time an irresponsible driver causes a wreck, especially one that results in injury or loss of life, it gives all professional drivers a bad name. We don't want people who have abused drugs or alcohol driving an 80,000 lb. missile through cities, over mountains, or out on the wide open highway.

Now, we understand that your drinking is in the past, and I applaud you for beating the bottle. Still, there are too many other "recovering" alcoholics out on the road who have relapsed, and by the time they get caught, the damage has already been done. The question is, do we want to take that chance??

Remember, my family and I both have to share the roads with you.

Seriously, you should have done some research into this before you ever signed up for classes. Ethically, the local Wholesale Freight Relocation University (better known as a "diploma mill") you attended should have advised you of that before they took your money, but it was not their legal obligation or responsibility to do so.

I wish you no ill, and as The Rev himself will attest, he and I don't always see eye to eye on everything. But I must join The Rev. in saying that you are not a suitable candidate for driving a big truck, and I too, hope that no company will take a chance on you. The risk is too high, the damage is all too often irreparable, and there are already too many drivers out there who should not be driving.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDiesel
waiting for hobo to chime in...... since this subject is alcohol related.

I was going to tell the guy that if he wanted compassion, he should ask golfhobo for it, but that just sounded too mean. :lol:

PhuzzyGnu 08-05-2008 07:37 PM

Re: Are there any companies that will hire a guy with 2 DWI'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
I recently graduated from a driving school and have a class A license. Now, I'm looking for a job.

Problem is that I've made some mistakes in the past and I have two DIW's on my record. One is eight years old; the other is seven. All of that was in another life and I no longer drink.

Does anyone know of any companies that will hire a recent grad with a record like mine? Any suggestions would be appreciated.


NO

-p.

golfhobo 08-05-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If he would have gotten those two DWI's in a CMV, it wouldn't even be a question, because he would be disqualified for life.

Interesting that the FMCSA makes such a distinction. They should have asked your opinion first. :wink:

BigDawg 08-05-2008 07:45 PM

good luck on finding a descent company,looks like to me you might have to find a out-law company to drive for.Just like the others have said you are pretty much cooked in this industry.With just one DWI it has to be 7 yrs, or longer before they will even think of hiring you.But with 2 no way.

Here is a web-site i use to check out trucking companies is
www.fleetdirectory.com

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If he would have gotten those two DWI's in a CMV, it wouldn't even be a question, because he would be disqualified for life.

Interesting that the FMCSA makes such a distinction. They should have asked your opinion first. :wink:

Why?

golfhobo 08-05-2008 09:23 PM

So they could've gotten it RIGHT, of course! :P

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 09:36 PM

They have already gotten them right. But I see you have once again made the thread about me. Apparently, your obsession knows no bounds.

golfhobo 08-05-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
They have already gotten them right. But I see you have once again made the thread about me. Apparently, your obsession knows no bounds.

Actually, the TWO of YOU had to make it about me. I'm just bored! :lol:

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
They have already gotten them right. But I see you have once again made the thread about me. Apparently, your obsession knows no bounds.

Actually, the TWO of YOU had to make it about me. I'm just bored! :lol:

I never directed any comment towards you.

golfhobo 08-05-2008 09:59 PM

And I never said you did.

bigtimba 08-05-2008 10:34 PM

You should have begun your inquiry with . .


. . would any of you guys who have driven drunk hundreds of times for thousands of miles in your POV's but never got caught have any advice for someone who did . . twice . .

Snowman7 08-05-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtimba
You should have begun your inquiry with . .


. . would any of you guys who have driven drunk hundreds of times for thousands of miles in your POV's but never got caught have any advice for someone who did . . twice . .

Wow, that sure makes me stop and think before I climb up on my "high horse"! But the advice would stay the same, 2 DUI's and any of us would be done in a CMV. As it should be.

Rev.Vassago 08-05-2008 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo
And I never said you did.

Perhaps you can explain how we made the thread about you, when neither of us directed anything towards you.....

golfhobo 08-06-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
And I never said you did.

Perhaps you can explain how we made the thread about you, when neither of us directed anything towards you.....

I could. But, if I have to, you obviously couldn't understand. :roll:

Why do you and your buddy "have to ruin every thread you post on" by draggin me into it? :lol: Seems the "obsession" is YOURS. :shock:

You want to berate the new guy, and show him how unwelcome he is here on YOUR forum?... help yourself! You've probably run him off already anyway.

Don't worry folks.... this ain't goin 7 pages! I'm done. Rev can have the last word. I never intended to post on this thread anyway. Unlike the Rev, I didn't feel the need to berate the new guy with nothing more than a prudish opinion, just because he asked a question.

I made a simple observation about the FMCSA.

Rev.Vassago 08-06-2008 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Rev can have the last word.

I have your permission to post? Gee, thanks.

Or are you ordering me to post? I be confoosed. In either case, I'd better post, just so I avoid golfhobo's rage.


Dear golfbobo,

Just because your name is mentioned doesn't make the thread about you. Perhaps an ego check is in order. At least this thread was pretty much finished before you ruined it. Could you pretty please get a job already, so you can only ruin threads once every 2 weeks, most of which are already dead before you post?

Thanks in advance.

Love,

Rev. Vassago

golfhobo 08-06-2008 01:37 AM

Rev.Vassago said:
Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
Rev can have the last word.

I have your permission to post? Gee, thanks.

Or are you ordering me to post? I be confoosed.
And always HAVE been! :P

Once again.... May does not = Shall...... CAN does not = MUST.
Should've taken that Eng Comp course, Rev!

Quote:

Just because your name is mentioned doesn't make the thread about you. Perhaps an ego check is in order.
Pot.... meet Kettle! :roll:

Quote:

BigDiesel..... I WANT you!

Love,

Rev. Vassago

Mackman 08-06-2008 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtimba
You should have begun your inquiry with . .


. . would any of you guys who have driven drunk hundreds of times for thousands of miles in your POV's but never got caught have any advice for someone who did . . twice . .

Yeah leave the bar like 1 hr before closing. The cops are always out looking at closing time. Also i try to stick to the back roads if i can. So far so good havent got caught yet. :wink:

I know some of you all mighty big time supertruckers will chime in with your 2cents.

midnightlighting 08-06-2008 02:37 AM

cr england- 5 years ago
ffe- 5 years ago

Good luck bro, and if you do get the chance, cherish it and keep clean

Rev.Vassago 08-06-2008 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo

Quote:

Just because your name is mentioned doesn't make the thread about you. Perhaps an ego check is in order.
Pot.... meet Kettle! :roll:

I just checked my ego. It's doing fine, thanks.

I thought you were done ruining this thread? I guess you just can't shut up. I'd suggest having the talkback on your computer checked. ECHO ECHO BEEP


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Originally Posted by golfhobo
BigDiesel..... I WANT you!

BTW, don't insert you love notes into my posts. Troll.

BigDiesel 08-06-2008 03:27 AM

For the last time.... Golfhovo, I do not swing that way, so quit asking !!!

eddie23949 08-06-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Quote:

Originally Posted by golfhobo
And I never said you did.

Perhaps you can explain how we made the thread about you, when neither of us directed anything towards you.....

I could. But, if I have to, you obviously couldn't understand. :roll:

Why do you and your buddy "have to ruin every thread you post on" by draggin me into it? :lol: Seems the "obsession" is YOURS. :shock:

You want to berate the new guy, and show him how unwelcome he is here on YOUR forum?... help yourself! You've probably run him off already anyway.

Don't worry folks.... this ain't goin 7 pages! I'm done. Rev can have the last word. I never intended to post on this thread anyway. Unlike the Rev, I didn't feel the need to berate the new guy with nothing more than a prudish opinion, just because he asked a question.

I made a simple observation about the FMCSA.

Don't worry, the Rev. hasn't run me off. I'm just having fun watching.

I checked some of his prior posts and it appears that he's quite an.....well, we know what he is. Like I said, this is just fun watching. :lol:

Rev.Vassago 08-06-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Don't worry, the Rev. hasn't run me off. I'm just having fun watching.

I checked some of his prior posts and it appears that he's quite an.....well, we know what he is. Like I said, this is just fun watching. :lol:

I believe the word you are looking for is asshole. But I'm also right.

eddie23949 08-06-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Don't worry, the Rev. hasn't run me off. I'm just having fun watching.

I checked some of his prior posts and it appears that he's quite an.....well, we know what he is. Like I said, this is just fun watching. :lol:

I believe the word you are looking for is asshole...

DING! DING! DING! You win the prize!! :lol:

I'm gonna watch for a little while longer, then I'll let you in on a little secret. Oh, and btw, you're not right nearly as often as you think; you just pretend to be right.

Rev.Vassago 08-06-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Oh, and btw, you're not right nearly as often as you think; you just pretend to be right.

So prove me wrong.

Ridge Runner 08-06-2008 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Useless
Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie23949
Thanks Rev. I can tell by your reply that you're a really compassionate guy. Your help is really appreciated.

Eddie23949:

Reality Check:

If you are looking or hoping to find compassion or forgiveness, you might find it in a church, but you will not find it in this industry. Many people who are not familiar with this industry, or those who are new to it, simply do not seem to grasp the fact that this in an industry where you play for keeps; part of that means that consequences are long term. The fact is that you have not one, but two convictions on your record, and that's just two too many for you to be a trucker. This is an industry where the term "Zero Tolerance" carries a very specific meaning.

I invite you to do a search on this very website of drivers who have failed drug tests..... these were guys who knew about the consequences of failing a drug test, yet they STILL went out and abused. When they get caught, they come here to CAD, telling their tales of woe, looking for help in getting back behind the wheel, and then when they are rebuffed, they cop major attitudes. In your case, we are talking about alcohol, which although legal, can be every bit as deadly.

Good drivers work to build and guard their reputations, and every time an irresponsible driver causes a wreck, especially one that results in injury or loss of life, it gives all professional drivers a bad name. We don't want people who have abused drugs or alcohol driving an 80,000 lb. missile through cities, over mountains, or out on the wide open highway.

Now, we understand that your drinking is in the past, and I applaud you for beating the bottle. Still, there are too many other "recovering" alcoholics out on the road who have relapsed, and by the time they get caught, the damage has already been done. The question is, do we want to take that chance??

Remember, my family and I both have to share the roads with you.

Seriously, you should have done some research into this before you ever signed up for classes. Ethically, the local Wholesale Freight Relocation University (better known as a "diploma mill") you attended should have advised you of that before they took your money, but it was not their legal obligation or responsibility to do so.

I wish you no ill, and as The Rev himself will attest, he and I don't always see eye to eye on everything. But I must join The Rev. in saying that you are not a suitable candidate for driving a big truck, and I too, hope that no company will take a chance on you. The risk is too high, the damage is all too often irreparable, and there are already too many drivers out there who should not be driving.

That sums it up nicely! :wink:


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