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radar detector
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
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Yep there sure is and it works in every state. It is called a spedometer and every vehicle has one and if used in conjunction with the signs posted along the road you will never get pulled over for speeding.
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Yep there sure is and it works in every state. It is called a spedometer and every vehicle has one and if used in conjunction with the signs posted along the road you will never get pulled over for speeding.
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get caught-you lose
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AND police can't detect radar detectors, radar detectors detect radars which police use to detect speeds, LOL
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Originally Posted by harleypiper
AND police can't detect radar detectors, radar detectors detect radars which police use to detect speeds, LOL
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Here's how it works Police use Radar you use a Radar detector to find a police officer using a Radar gun or other device.Police use a Radar detector detector yes they have them.You then try to use a new detector that can not be seen by the radar detector detector.Just remember 1 thing the radar gun will hit you before you even see the cop or the radar going off most of the time.Oh and BY THE WAY IT'S AGAINEST THE LAW FOR A COMMERICAL TO HAVE A RADAR DETECTOR.So not only will you get a huge ticket possible jail time but you will have your CDL taken away.
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The only radar detector on the market that is completely undetectable by both SPECTRE and VG-2 detection units is the BELtronics STI driver.
http://www.challengermotors.co.nz/im...STI_Driver.jpg AND police can't detect radar detectors, radar detectors detect radars which police use to detect speeds, LOL |
Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
JUST DON'T SPEED. Think of the money you'll save if you don't have to buy detectors, pay ticket costs, pay lawyers, etc. |
Greg has it, if they hit the Instant on button when they see you, your busted before your detector even beeps.
I saw one a few weeks ago in a pickup, the kid had it on and we went by a cruiser that was sitting parked while the cop was directing traffic. The detector was going nuts telling us we were right on top of the radar source yet his radar gun was not on, we looked in as we went by and nothing was flashing on the dash. For some reason it was up radar from a car that was turned off, only the light beacon on top was working. No other cruisers around the immediate area either. What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. |
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. |
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything |
Originally Posted by kona911
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. |
Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
JUST DON'T SPEED. Think of the money you'll save if you don't have to buy detectors, pay ticket costs, pay lawyers, etc. |
Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by kona911
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. Turn your scanner on. Yep, but make sure it's a good scanner that has digital/trunk tracking capabilities. |
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by kona911
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
What if the police are using aircraft?? You are not going to detect that with anything. Turn your scanner on. Yep, but make sure it's a good scanner that has digital/trunk tracking capabilities. |
It's not illegal to listen to scanners. Only if used in conjuntion with a crime, such as robbing a store or burglarizing a home, not speeding.
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Originally Posted by greg3564
It's not illegal to listen to scanners. Only if used in conjuntion with a crime, such as robbing a store or burglarizing a home, not speeding.
interesting site pertaining to this http://www.ncsl.org/programs/transpo...dar.htm#table2 |
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by greg3564
It's not illegal to listen to scanners. Only if used in conjuntion with a crime, such as robbing a store or burglarizing a home, not speeding.
The following is from the National Council of State Legislators. Table 2: State Laws on Mobile Scanners State Description CALIFORNIA Scanner usage illegal in furtherance of a crime. FLORIDA Scanners illegal when mounted in vehicles unless the individual is a licensed alarm system contractor, a member of the press on assignment, a licensed amateur radio operator, or a citizen with written permission from the chief of police of sheriff. INDIANA Scanners illegal when mounted in vehicles unless the individual is a licensed alarm system contractor, a member of the press on assignment, a licensed amateur radio operator, or a citizen with written permission from the chief of police or sheriff. KENTUCKY Scanners are illegal while vehicles are mobile unless the user has a Federal Communications Commission licensure. Law enforcement officers are authorized to seize and destroy scanners. The law exempts the following: retailers and wholesalers selling radios. Commercial, educational, or television stations using them at the place of business. Individuals at their residences. Commercial towing trucks. Newspaper reporters and photographers on duty. Disaster and emergency services personnel with written permission from the state director of emergency services. People holding a valid amateur radio license. Peace officers authorized in writing by their agency head. Commonwealth and county attorneys and their assistants. MICHIGAN Police receiver radios are illegal in vehicles unless the driver is an amateur-radio operator with technician-class license or above, or with written permission. MINNESOTA Mobile scanners are illegal except for police and amateur radio operators licensed by the Federal Communications Commission. The Superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension also must give approval. Use of scanners in furtherance of a felony is illegal. NEW JERSEY Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. NEW YORK Possessing a scanner is illegal for anyone without a permit. OKLAHOMA Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. SOUTH DAKOTA Possession for use during a felony is illegal. Use in business establishments legal with prior written permit. Amateur radio operators exempted from law. Confiscation for violations. VERMONT Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. VIRGINIA Illegal if used to further a felony. |
Originally Posted by greg3564
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by greg3564
It's not illegal to listen to scanners. Only if used in conjuntion with a crime, such as robbing a store or burglarizing a home, not speeding.
The following is from the National Council of State Legislators. Table 2: State Laws on Mobile Scanners State Description CALIFORNIA Scanner usage illegal in furtherance of a crime. FLORIDA Scanners illegal when mounted in vehicles unless the individual is a licensed alarm system contractor, a member of the press on assignment, a licensed amateur radio operator, or a citizen with written permission from the chief of police of sheriff. INDIANA Scanners illegal when mounted in vehicles unless the individual is a licensed alarm system contractor, a member of the press on assignment, a licensed amateur radio operator, or a citizen with written permission from the chief of police or sheriff. KENTUCKY Scanners are illegal while vehicles are mobile unless the user has a Federal Communications Commission licensure. Law enforcement officers are authorized to seize and destroy scanners. The law exempts the following: retailers and wholesalers selling radios. Commercial, educational, or television stations using them at the place of business. Individuals at their residences. Commercial towing trucks. Newspaper reporters and photographers on duty. Disaster and emergency services personnel with written permission from the state director of emergency services. People holding a valid amateur radio license. Peace officers authorized in writing by their agency head. Commonwealth and county attorneys and their assistants. MICHIGAN Police receiver radios are illegal in vehicles unless the driver is an amateur-radio operator with technician-class license or above, or with written permission. MINNESOTA Mobile scanners are illegal except for police and amateur radio operators licensed by the Federal Communications Commission. The Superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension also must give approval. Use of scanners in furtherance of a felony is illegal. NEW JERSEY Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. NEW YORK Possessing a scanner is illegal for anyone without a permit. OKLAHOMA Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. SOUTH DAKOTA Possession for use during a felony is illegal. Use in business establishments legal with prior written permit. Amateur radio operators exempted from law. Confiscation for violations. VERMONT Use in furtherance of a crime is illegal. VIRGINIA Illegal if used to further a felony. |
Just get a ham license and you will be square in all states :P
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One thing to keep in mind. What may be legal in a personal vehicle may be illegal in a CMV.
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I thought you just used the CB checking for Bears? :D Bears with cameras? No need for a scanner.
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Originally Posted by Trukrswyfe
I thought you just used the CB checking for Bears? :D Bears with cameras? No need for a scanner.
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I completely agree overhead is Gas and Gas is money You are correct. I just radio talk its funny.
Hey west bound did you leave anything behind you? Yeah go brush your teeth and comb your hair. :lol: |
Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
Also, even if someone came out with an "undetectable radar detector", on Monday at 8AM, more than likely by 5PM that same day there would be an "undetectable radar detector detector"...... Remember: Discretion is the better part of valor. |
Originally Posted by matcat
Just get a ham license and you will be square in all states :P
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Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
Also, even if someone came out with an "undetectable radar detector", on Monday at 8AM, more than likely by 5PM that same day there would be an "undetectable radar detector detector"...... Remember: Discretion is the better part of valor. There are ways that the so called "detector - detector" will not detect the presents of a radar detector. But to my knowledge no one builds such a unit. kc0iv |
Originally Posted by yoopr
Originally Posted by matcat
Just get a ham license and you will be square in all states :P
It can be handy information to a ham operator in the next state as they travel towards the LEO's position.. Albeit the LEO may be long gone by the time the traveler gets to the location but the purpose had been served... :P |
Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by Skywalker
Originally Posted by Evinrude
Is there any Radar Detectors on the market that can't be detected by police?
Also, even if someone came out with an "undetectable radar detector", on Monday at 8AM, more than likely by 5PM that same day there would be an "undetectable radar detector detector"...... Remember: Discretion is the better part of valor. There are ways that the so called "detector - detector" will not detect the presents of a radar detector. But to my knowledge no one builds such a unit. kc0iv |
Re: radar detector
[quote="PackRatTDI
They do, the Beltronics STI is undetectable. It's been documented several times in tests. Neither the VG-2 nor the SPECTRE can pick it up at all.[/quote] Unfortunately it does not pick radar very well either :? |
Originally Posted by matcat
Just get a ham license and you will be square in all states :P
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Or the cops could use the poor man's detector-detector. Sit facing oncoming traffic but be shooting traffic going the opposite way, hit the Instant On and watch which dummy slaps their brakes on.
The novelty of having a detector is great but not worth it. They are illegal in VA for everyone, if you are stopped and a detector is within your reach, your charged and it's confiscated until your court date. The judge will usually give it back to you because it was used as evidence or the cop will allow you to avoid a ticket for it by making you smash it on the shoulder of the road. My brother got busted with one, even though it was in the backseat, unplugged and he could not reach it with ease, it was still reachable(so the judge said.) It would have been ok if it had been in the trunk and unplugged. |
Re: radar detector
Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
They do, the Beltronics STI is undetectable. It's been documented several times in tests. Neither the VG-2 nor the SPECTRE can pick it up at all.
While the specs (other than it's poor receiver performance) on the Beltronics STI does look good it still used a single conversion converter. Which does have leakage of the conversion frequency. And as such a "detector - detector" unit can detect this conversion. A much better process is to use a 2 or 3 conversion process. By so doing this "detector - detector" will not see the conversion. An even better approach would be to use a digital processed oscillator that keeps changing the local oscillator. Problem is I'm not sure it could be build and meet the price constraints. kc0iv |
In my daily life comings and goings, whenever i get the urge to put the hammer down, i always ask myself one simple question:
Can i afford the ticket? Shortly afterwords, my foot always leaves the gas pedal for a few seconds to slow back down. :lol: |
Re: radar detector
[quote=Popeye]
Originally Posted by "PackRatTDI
They do, the Beltronics STI is undetectable. It's been documented several times in tests. Neither the VG-2 nor the SPECTRE can pick it up at all.[/quote Unfortunately it does not pick radar very well either :? |
Originally Posted by Uturn2001
Yep there sure is and it works in every state. It is called a spedometer and every vehicle has one and if used in conjunction with the signs posted along the road you will never get pulled over for speeding.
Better yet, DON"T get on the road, if your only thought is breaking the law! I make good money without having to break any laws. It amazes me the energy that people will expend, to figure out how to get away with breaking the law. If one were to exert the same energy into doing things legaly, they would be less stressed, and in most cases, have much more money in their pockets at the end of the week. Wouldn't you say! I will wave at ya when you go by! |
Re: radar detector
[quote=PackRatTDI]
Originally Posted by Popeye
Originally Posted by "PackRatTDI
They do, the Beltronics STI is undetectable. It's been documented several times in tests. Neither the VG-2 nor the SPECTRE can pick it up at all.[/quote Unfortunately it does not pick radar very well either :? dont forget that the same companies make the detectors and the detector detectors, so they will always come up with new ways to defeat both as long as people are willing to buy them |
Re: radar detector
[quote=Fredog]
Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by Popeye
Originally Posted by "PackRatTDI
They do, the Beltronics STI is undetectable. It's been documented several times in tests. Neither the VG-2 nor the SPECTRE can pick it up at all.[/quote Unfortunately it does not pick radar very well either :? dont forget that the same companies make the detectors and the detector detectors, |
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