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steelhauler2007 09-06-2007 03:11 AM

DAC Question
 
I just got off the phone with one of my trucking buddies.He told me that a few days ago he was assigned a load to pick up.He felt he couldn't deliver this load legally.He told the company to either change the delivery time or he was turning in the truck.They refused to change the load so he took his truck to the yard and quite.Going to the yard was on the way to pick up the load so he didn't go out of route.Did he make a big mistake?I told him that he quite under a load and they would probably put it on his DAC.What consequences would this have? Just trying to find out some info for him.

larryh31 09-06-2007 03:38 AM

If they put "Quit Under Dispatch" on his DAC Report, your friend is going to have a tough time getting another good trucking job. It makes him seem unrealiable and unprofessional. He can explain his side of the story to potential employers, but it will be an up hill battle.

continental 09-06-2007 03:43 AM

It depends on the company that he was working for. They may put it on his record. I would not worry about it myself. The best companies out there don't use DAC, anyway. In 14 years I only worked for 1 company that used it.
Mostly the mega carriers use it, and I don't ever go near them. I will NOT
drive a truck that has more than 3 digit number.I advise against them, unless you like being treated like(no, not a number) live stock.

Twilight Flyer 09-06-2007 04:53 AM

Whether a company uses DAC or not is irrelevant. The relevant issue is that any potential company is going to have to contact this former employer and will be told over the phone or by fax that the driver quit under dispatch.

DAC is not the evil here...DAC is just the information storage location that a lot of companies use. It's the company that is responsible for the employment information, whether they put that on DAC, do it over the phone, or do it by fax. Whatever method the company uses, the information will still be the same.

continental 09-06-2007 07:49 AM

That is true. However, you'd be surprised how many companies don't even contact previous employers.

greg3564 09-06-2007 08:25 AM

I can't believe someone would quit over a delivery time. Just advise them you can't make it and deliver it when you can. That just seems so silly to quit like that.

Trucker_Matt 09-06-2007 08:36 AM

i think he should have delivered it late, and then try to work something out with the manager, like maybe a new dispatcher.

Twilight Flyer 09-06-2007 08:48 AM


However, you'd be surprised how many companies don't even contact previous employers.
Which would put them in non-compliance with the D.O.T. and federal law. I don't doubt that there are those companies out there, but when the D.O.T. comes in to do an audit, those companies typically go out of business due to the fines that are levied on them. It's those outlaw firms that don't do verifications that contribute greatly to the issues in the industry.

sonic2wb 09-08-2007 07:51 AM

thats the issue
 

Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer

However, you'd be surprised how many companies don't even contact previous employers.
Which would put them in non-compliance with the D.O.T. and federal law. I don't doubt that there are those companies out there, but when the D.O.T. comes in to do an audit, those companies typically go out of business due to the fines that are levied on them. It's those outlaw firms that don't do verifications that contribute greatly to the issues in the industry.



There is the issue, these outlaw companys make it look like they are leaal, i work for a company right now that tells all of its drivers in Orintation that they dont care about logbooks as long as it looks leagal wehn we turn them in. Now lets say i ot to DOT and tell them this and they goto the company, who are they going to belive???
there needs to be more checks done on companies, b/c if the driver screws up the company is not being looked at.....

Fredog 09-08-2007 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by continental
It depends on the company that he was working for. They may put it on his record. I would not worry about it myself. The best companies out there don't use DAC, anyway. In 14 years I only worked for 1 company that used it.

Mostly the mega carriers use it, and I don't ever
go near them. I will NOT
drive a truck that has more than 3 digit number.I advise against them, unless you like being treated like(no, not a number) live stock.

ALL of our trucks have a 4 digit number and we only have 15 , far from a mega carrier..

utvolsr1 09-08-2007 11:53 AM

Re: DAC Question
 

Originally Posted by steelhauler2007
I just got off the phone with one of my trucking buddies.He told me that a few days ago he was assigned a load to pick up.He felt he couldn't deliver this load legally.He told the company to either change the delivery time or he was turning in the truck.They refused to change the load so he took his truck to the yard and quite.Going to the yard was on the way to pick up the load so he didn't go out of route.Did he make a big mistake?I told him that he quite under a load and they would probably put it on his DAC.What consequences would this have? Just trying to find out some info for him.


Looks to me like the company called his bluff. Wonder who is loosing sleep over it, him or the company?

Raafi 09-14-2007 10:48 PM

DOT requires a DAT report?

Employers are allowed to put whatever they wish

so who gets screwed? the drivers

and who is supporting this? the drivers

amazing

if we are going to use DAC, then allow the drivers to submit comments or rebuttals, if not, then its not fair, plain and simple

are their idiot drivers? yes
are their idiot companies? yes

why is it stacked in favor of the companies?

kc0iv 09-14-2007 11:59 PM


DOT requires a DAT report?
I assume you mean DAC.

D.O.T. could care less if a company uses DAC. What D.O.T. requires is a background check.


Employers are allowed to put whatever they wish
The employer has to be able to support what they put in a DAC report.


if we are going to use DAC, then allow the drivers to submit comments or rebuttals, if not, then its not fair, plain and simple
They do.

If someone finds something in their DAC report they think is wrong there is a procedure for correcting their DAC report.



why is it stacked in favor of the companies?
I don't think there is an advantage for or against either a company or an employee. As in the record being discussed the employee quit under load. That is information a future employer may want to know during the hiring process.

kc0iv

GMAN 09-15-2007 12:27 AM

DAC only reports what they are given by a subscribing carrier. There is an opportunity for the driver to supply comments or a letter of explanation about specific things in the report. For the most part, things in a DAC should be fairly accurate. The main problem I have with DAC is that the carrier is limited in what may be put in a driver's file. For instance, if a driver steals from the carrier, he cannot put that information in the file. He can say that the driver is not re-hirable. The same can be said about a driver who abuses his equipment. It would be much better if more information could be put into a file to warn other potential employers about a specific driver. I think it would help to clean up the industry. There have been mistakes on DAC. They can be corrected. I have had errors on my own file, but nothing too out of line as to prevent me from getting a good job, should I look for one.

Your friend isn't mature enough to be in this business. You never want to give an employer an ultimatum. Most will call you on it. His former company did just that.


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