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driver67373 06-10-2007 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by flood
if you run 10 hours a day you will run out of hours ie 10hr X 7 days = 70hr so you will hove NO hours for the 8th day..! 70hr/8day rule

the only way to not run out of hours is not to have more than 8.75 hours driving and onduty each day.

Quite simple...the next day you will gain 10 hours from the day 7 days ago. At mdnight you gain back what you lost a week ago. That is how you can keep rolling without a restart. I've done this often though it is easier to do it teaming.

thebaldeagle655 06-10-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by driver67373

Originally Posted by flood
if you run 10 hours a day you will run out of hours ie 10hr X 7 days = 70hr so you will hove NO hours for the 8th day..! 70hr/8day rule

the only way to not run out of hours is not to have more than 8.75 hours driving and onduty each day.

Quite simple...the next day you will gain 10 hours from the day 7 days ago. At mdnight you gain back what you lost a week ago. That is how you can keep rolling without a restart. I've done this often though it is easier to do it teaming.

????

Day Hours /day Total in 8 day period

day 1 10 10
day 2 10 20
day 3 10 30
day 4 10 40
day 5 10 50
day 6 10 60
day 7 10 70
day 8 10 80 and you are over limit! you can't get hours back until the 9th day, not the 8th.

flood 06-10-2007 11:49 AM

oops double post

DaveP 06-10-2007 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Double R

It is called logging with a calculator.
Which is illegal. Log it as you drive it.

:roll: ...

The D.O.T. CHECKS your logbook with a calculator...

Just sayin'....

flood 06-10-2007 01:52 PM

btw it's not that hard for a team to run out of hours if your running good. we can both burn up our 70 and have no hours for the 8th day if we are pulling fedex

kips41 06-10-2007 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Double R

It is called logging with a calculator.
Which is illegal. Log it as you drive it.

That is why these guys run out of hours.

If I drive all day in a 65 mph zone, I am not going to log it at 55.
Usually try to show about 3-5 mph less. regardless of what it takes and
then lets say that it is a 950 mile run and the practical miles are 1000
I will take whatever I drive for that segment of the trip and only log 95% of it. Which means I will only be logging paid miles. I do each trip that way some are right on the money others are out 6-7 % sometimes.

Now for they guys that want to log every minute exactly as they do it, great if that works for you.

DaveP 06-10-2007 02:39 PM

They'll starve to death sooner or later... :wink:

BigWheels 06-10-2007 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by kips41

Originally Posted by Double R

It is called logging with a calculator.
Which is illegal. Log it as you drive it.

That is why these guys run out of hours.

If I drive all day in a 65 mph zone, I am not going to log it at 55.
Usually try to show about 3-5 mph less. regardless of what it takes and
then lets say that it is a 950 mile run and the practical miles are 1000
I will take whatever I drive for that segment of the trip and only log 95% of it. Which means I will only be logging paid miles. I do each trip that way some are right on the money others are out 6-7 % sometimes.

Now for they guys that want to log every minute exactly as they do it, great if that works for you.

kips41, I get what you're saying...what scares the bejeebers out of me is if I was--God forbid--involved in an accident and the DOT discovering my calculator logging method. I would be in a heap full of big trouble.

The DOT ain't stupid--they know a certain percentage of drivers are logging according to the calculator method that you use....I think they are willing to look the other way...until a trucker gets into an accident. Then all Hell will break loose for the driver...the DOT has no choice but to come down hard on the driver.

However, because the DOT is "willing" to look the other way, they indirectly are condoning the calculator logging method (Obviously they won't come out and say that).

I'm curious as to what percentage of truckers out there use the calculator method as opposed to the log-it-as-you-do-it method...as opposed to the just-making-it-up-along-the-way method. :lol:

Graymist 06-10-2007 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by BigWheels

Originally Posted by kips41

Originally Posted by Double R

It is called logging with a calculator.
Which is illegal. Log it as you drive it.

That is why these guys run out of hours.

If I drive all day in a 65 mph zone, I am not going to log it at 55.
Usually try to show about 3-5 mph less. regardless of what it takes and
then lets say that it is a 950 mile run and the practical miles are 1000
I will take whatever I drive for that segment of the trip and only log 95% of it. Which means I will only be logging paid miles. I do each trip that way some are right on the money others are out 6-7 % sometimes.

Now for they guys that want to log every minute exactly as they do it, great if that works for you.

kips41, I get what you're saying...what scares the bejeebers out of me is if I was--God forbid--involved in an accident and the DOT discovering my calculator logging method. I would be in a heap full of big trouble.

The DOT ain't stupid--they know a certain percentage of drivers are logging according to the calculator method that you use....I think they are willing to look the other way...until a trucker gets into an accident. Then all Hell will break loose for the driver...the DOT has no choice but to come down hard on the driver.

However, because the DOT is "willing" to look the other way, they indirectly are condoning the calculator logging method (Obviously they won't come out and say that).

I'm curious as to what percentage of truckers out there use the calculator method as opposed to the log-it-as-you-do-it method...as opposed to the just-making-it-up-along-the-way method. :lol:


What exactly does "logging with a calculator" mean, and how is it done ? Why isn't it legal ?

DaveP 06-10-2007 03:31 PM

My company checks my logs with a calculator. The DOT checks my logs with a calculator. I "check" my logs with a calculator.

We're all in agreement 99.9% of the time.

Whats the problem?


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