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NHHunter 10-16-2007 02:20 PM

good info, thanks!

Gator 11-09-2007 10:57 PM

Before you jump in
 
One area not covered is the family. If the driver doesn't have the complete support of his/her family, then there is no way any driving job is going to work.

This is especially true for someone with children still at home. While you may think it's not much different than going to a job every day, being gone for a week or more at a time can stress a marraige to the breaking point.

So, is your spouse in complete support of this? Is there a support structure in place so that the spouse doesn't feel abandoned and left behind?

Hubby went to CDL school after our daughter graduated from high school. I'm pretty self-sufficient, and this was his dream to "hit the road".

There have been good and bad times the past 2 years that he has been driving, but over all, he's happy, I'm happy, and life is pretty good.

Not to brag, but I think that the lack of pressure and fuss from the home-side makes his driving job easier overall. If our daughter was younger, I don't know how we would have felt about his being away as much as he is.

Roadhog 12-12-2007 08:17 AM

THE INTERVIEW pt. 1 (questions you may be asked)
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To begin, there is no way to predict every question you will be asked in an interview. Unexpected questions will come up, no matter how well you prepare yourself. We can help you get through most of your interview with confidence, and prepare you to do much better than the average.

However, any question or answer samples we give you, in this post or any post on this message board, you should accept as guidelines only. Use this information to help prepare yourself, but put yourself into the equation. Do not memorize answers or simply repeat things you’ve read. An interviewer will be able to spot right away, you are simply reciting “canned” answers. Apply your own experiences, using an honest personality, and answer questions in your own words. Relax and take a few deep breaths, before you begin. A theme I am going to emphasize often is honesty. Honesty will also help you to feel calm, as you are not trying to hide anything, or be someone you are not.

Make some lists. Your qualifications, skills, experience, knowledge, background, and personal traits you possess that apply to Trucking. (ie. Patience, neat appearance, detail oriented, enjoys a challenge ) Look for ways to add this information into your answers.

An old saying, “Facts tell, but stories sell.” During a job interview, you are selling yourself. In your answers, try to tell a brief story of yourself, inserting facts that tell the kind of driver you are, and the kind of performance you are capable of. Keep it brief, and don’t ramble or take up a lot of time. Preparing yourself will help you make your points and get to the point.

Keep The Interviewer’s Perspective In Mind.

This is important. While many questions being asked focus on your past accomplishments, make note of this important tip; by asking about what you did, they are looking for what they can hope or expect from you now-- for them. Talk about your past accomplishments in a way which shows the kind of employee you are, relevant as a driver.

Honesty

…is the best policy. It is tempting to want to embellish yourself, to look like the perfect employee. You are being so positive, and trying so hard to “sell”, but just be honest and be yourself. Above all…do not make the fatal mistake of lying. You can always remember the truth, but you can not keep lies straight. They will catch up to you. If you “alter” the truth during an interview, the interviewer may spot the discrepancy from your application, or resume’. Interviewers also work interviews often, and many have learned body language skills, to identify your responses. If they sense you are lying, you may not get hired. What is worse though, is if you do get the job, you risk being discovered later as a liar, you will get fired. This would be a very undesirable mark on your record. You may find it hard to get another good job, for some time.

-----Here are Top 5 questions you may be asked in your interview.-----

1. How Many Years Have You Been Driving?

The focus is in your commercial driving experience, only. If seeking a Class A position, your Class B experience is not going to mean much. No experience, even less. Some companies have minimum driving requirements. This doesn’t rule you out. Many companies offer free schooling for inexperienced drivers to get their CDL-A, with a contract agreement that you work for the carrier for a specific period of time. O/O and smaller OTR companies will hire inexperienced drivers as well. In the northern (snow) States, you will not find a company willing to train a driver starting out on snow and ice. Keep that in mind, when you plan your prospects.
This is the primary question a company wants to know about you.

2. What Is Your Driving Record For The Last 5 Years?

Honesty is very important in this area. Many companies use DAC Services to look into your background, and WILL verify your record for the last 5 years, including tickets, conduct, incidents, accidents, etc. If you happen to have more than 2 moving violations within the past two years, you may find you are undesirable. Insurance companies often regulate strict standards upon companies in this regard. If you have anything in this regard, know every detail about it. Write down dates, what happened, where, time of day, conditions, and any information you can think of. Do not offer unsolicited information, but be ready to respond truthfully, with specific details when asked, and be accurate. The accuracy can often help you, as reports are sometimes inaccurate. Man up when necessary too. One of my personal pet peeves is, people who do not take responsibility for their actions. They have excuses for everything. Key to being honest, is to be honest with yourself FIRST. Do not risk being caught in a lie in this important question.

3. What Types Of Equipment Do You Have Experience With?

The company needs to know, what kind of driving you have experience in, as well as what kind of driving you want to do. It’s okay, if you wish to be placed into a different operation. Many drivers start out as Van operators and maybe want to switch over to Flatbed, or even get into Tanker. I happen to have experience driving Tanker, Flatbed, Van and Reefer. 80% of my experience is with Reefer. If you have an opportunity to haul some other operation, I say take it. You may find you really enjoy that kind of driving.
Some drivers want to do LTL, some want to haul dry bulk. We all start somewhere, but it may not be “where” we want to ultimately be. The company needs to know where you want to be placed, and if they have any openings in that operation. Your level of skill, is also important, for them to determine if they can use you. No one wishes to waste each other’s time.

4. What Is Your Work History?

It is a US Department of Transportation requirement, that you give a work history for the last 10 years. If it doesn’t include a driving history, you still need to list it. Make all your lists accurate and complete, and keep this information in your own personal file, so you can consistently record these details with each application you may fill. Update it regularly, as you may be seeking another job in a few years, or less. Class A drivers in particular also have Daily Log Books. I have every log sheet entry, from the first trip I ever took. You will be asked how many miles have you driven, and what States.
You will need company names, addresses, names of supervisors, contact names and phone numbers, and the types of positions you held. Give a brief job description including starting wages and final wages. They will specifically look for any large employment gap in your work record. This is a red flag to employers, so be prepared to explain such a gap. Maybe you were self-employed or in the military, have tax forms or military documents to verify this.

5. Why Did You Leave Your Last Driving Job?

The terms of leaving and reasons for leaving will reflect much about you. If you are an experienced driver, you will have some explaining to do. Why did you quit, and what is it you are looking for? Honesty is your friend here, believe it or not. Do you know what your previous employer’s will have to say about you? I make a habit of getting a letter of recommendation from my past employer’s before I turn in my keys. If I am planning to leave an employer, I make a point of leaving, with the door still open. I want to have the option to come back anytime, and have been rehired by some employers. Don’t get me wrong now. I try to make this the policy I follow, but there have been some bridges I burnt to the ground, and felt satisfaction in doing so. If you have had to burn a bridge with a former employer, you are going to have to talk about what happened, unless you just wish their version be heard. In one case with me, a former employer failed to pay me regular, and always had excuses. I went 2 months actually without pay, because of the clusterfork he created, by trying to pay me a lot less than what I was owed, and I refused to cash that check. Not to mention, he left me sit sometimes 4 days between loads. This job was ugly in many ways. But rather than rant about this to my new prospective employer, I gave a brief description to remain professional, or I would have been flying out of control popping a vein in my forehead.

Honesty is good. Too much is bad. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...nd10/smile.gif

Roadhog 12-12-2007 08:27 AM

THE INTERVIEW pt.2 (questions you should ask)
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In the first part, we discussed questions you may be asked. In this part 2, we will suggest some things you might ask. There are some suggestions already made in prior posts in this thread. I hope others will also add their comments and suggestions in further discussion.
Are you making lists yet? You should be jotting down any bit of information that catches your interest, or seems to apply directly to you and your driving career interest. Scan through the archives and any topic titles that spark your interest, make notes of the things you feel are valuable to you. Take the time to put this info into categories of interest, later in a folder you are building, and compress this info.

Any questions you have in regards to whether or not you wish to work for a particular company should have been addressed before now. It is up to you to do enough research, to know the preliminary requirements, as to your qualifications, and what this company offers, to know should you apply to this company and proceed into the interview phase. For the experienced driver, that might be relatively easy. For inexperienced drivers or driver candidates, they will feel overwhelmed with questions, and in most cases not know what to even ask about. We’ll see what we can do to help you with some of our insight and perspectives.

Lets get the no.1 question out of the way first. This part you should already know from preliminary research. You new drivers all focus on this one question, so lets just get right after it. I don’t want you going into your interview fixated on this, or let this be the first question you ask.

How Much Money Will I Make?

This is a tall question, and it will vary significantly across the board. Brand new drivers are going to generally make less, than a driver with 1-2 years experience. But there are exceptions. Where you drive, what you drive (Tanker, Reefer, Flat, etc), how hard you drive, what you haul, how many benefits do you receive on top of your pay, the size of the company, your driver credentials (ie. Endorsements, driving experience), how many hours you work, and other factors. Many companies post pay scales and yearly averages, so you should be able to find this info straight away.
Lets try to make this simple and pare it down to something easy to quantify.

National average for Company truck driver pay.
Lowest paid or 25% make approximately $32,000/ year
The median pay is approximately $37,000/ year
Upper paid or 75% make approximately $43,000/ year

This is base pay, not including benefits, or other incentives you might make.
You might do better than this, or be one of the lucky drivers to have richer opportunities.
Again, I must point out, your circumstances may vary. Ambitious drivers can often find pay averages that exceed these figures. A driver willing to stay out for long periods, or some large companies can keep you in higher figures. The drivers who make that extra buck, are the ones who when they are ready to come home, instead take that extra load. Very few drivers work less and get paid more. But drivers who stick with a company and not job hop often come out with higher yearly income.

Realistically speaking, if you are a career minded driver who does not job hop, and practices professionalism, and works at advancing themselves, will find yearly wages from $48,000 to $70,000 a year. Drivers in this category work at distinguishing themselves above the pack. They are not getting speeding tickets or continually banging up the rig, and finding every excuse for why it wasn’t their fault. Some even relocate to areas where jobs typically pay better. If you want to advance, there is room to do so.

Is This Company A Good Deal, Or Not?

You need to ask the questions. Just like how the company interviewer asks you questions, now the agenda is yours. Let them answer the tough questions, and sell themselves to you. Companies recruit drivers in their own ways, and they vary. You can sometimes tell if they are “altering” the truth, however if you catch them in a lie, they don’t risk much of anything. So, you really need to prepare this end of your negotiations, so you set yourself up for the best deal possible.
Some recruiters can make a poor deal sound real good. Last recruiter I spoke with got backed into a corner more than once, and the responses were so lame, yet had I not been a seasoned driver, I would have been duped. I’m sorry, but in this regard, you will have to fend for yourself. Call it the school of hard knocks, and you hope to one day become a Road Scholar. Meanwhile, preparation, preparation, preparation.

I’d start out with asking what their benefits are and how much the driver is expected to pay for them. Boy I learned this lesson! I went through the application, and interview, and was even hired on the spot, and then I asked about the benefits. No benefits, just 24% of freight, that’s what we offer. My eye twitches every time I am reminded of that. I even drove 80 miles one way to the interview. You are going to make mistakes, and have your own personal horror stories. We all do. I could have learned of this on the phone. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...zx11pissed.gif http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/wtf.gif

With the regard to health insurance, some companies will not tell what the driver has to pay unless you specifically ask. If you need certain medical coverage, family considerations or say dental care, ask the questions. What are the other benefits that are offered. How long is the probation period. Many have adopted the 90 day to benefits rule. That is a long time to wait, so be sure what you are investing yourself in, is worth it.

You should have a strategy to your questions. As I mentioned earlier, you don’t want to start out on the money issue. You will just come across more sincere in your desire to be hired, if you show more depth about what concerns you. Also, as I indicated, some research and preliminary questions on your part BEFORE you get to the interview, should have already addressed some of this concern. How much information is made available to you, and what your research has turned up thus far will help you decide what further questions you need to ask. Likewise, list your priorities. You want to get the Lions share of your most important questions answered upfront, before the interview begins to degrade. Being well thought out alone is going to impress any interviewer, and you will keep their interest in answering your questions higher.

Questions You Might Ask
You design your own list according to the info you still need, and the priorities that fit you.

I like to ask about the equipment. I want to know what make of Truck, is it governed and if so, at what speed, how old are they, purchased 4 years or newer, which transmission, which engine, are they fitted with engine brakes, size of sleeper, is it a condo…or? Equipped with refrigerators, CB, GPS, stereo, power inverter. I would want to know if they do all the maintenance and repairs, or is this scheduled in route, do they pay for down time, is there a motel allowance for downtime, and on that subject…is there any daily allowance on layovers. Can you view some of the trucks, talk with the mechanics, what about truck/trailer washes, how often are you allowed a wash, reimbursed for interior cleaning supplies. Policy on trailer washouts.

For new drivers and or candidates. You will have many training related questions. How many hours of training is offered. The experience level of a trainer. About the training contract details. If you leave before 90 days, how much would you have to pay. Does the trainer receive extra pay. Will you solo after training. What is paid during orientation. Motel, transportation, and any daily allowance for food. What are the company turnover rates.

You want to know how you will be paid. If percentage, what does the average load cost. CPM, how is mileage calculated, computer program, Rand McNally, hub. Do they hold the first paycheck 2 weeks. Is there direct deposit pay. Is there a cell phone reimbursement allowance. How has their business been lately. Who are some of their accounts and are they long standing accounts. Do they bring in new customers. Is there a seniority to pull the better accounts. Detention pay. Average deadheading. Average time loading, (experienced drivers recognize certain accounts as typically long detentions) so it is important to some drivers whose accounts they will be working.

Loading/unloading responsibilities, policy on product count, shortages or damage. Lumper fees, securing a load, company fuel card, what card, which truck stops do they use, is there any Idle-Aire allowance. Are there multiple picks or drops, outfitted with PrePass, how are toll, scale, and misc. supplies handled, Comdata card, or advance pay, forced dispatch or broker, daily check-in calls, routing, loading and off-loading check in, paperless logs, length of time out, rider policy, pet policy, dress code, uniforms, can driver install/not install certain personal items.

Creek Jackson 12-13-2007 02:17 AM

You have been busy, sir!

A very well-written, informative post(s)/thread.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the industry! :D

Creek

Roadhog 12-13-2007 03:21 PM

:D
You're the Greatest Dad!

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...d10/Aabf13.jpg
.....DOH !......Homer's not wearing his seat belt..hahahaha :D

BIG JEEP on 44's 12-21-2007 06:21 AM

Re: The Driver and The Employer, Basic Job Hunting Skills
 
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Originally Posted by roadhog
The Industry
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Basic Job Hunting Tips
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But...with that info, be accurate. Don't waste their time or yours, or worse, be hired and fired for falsifying an application.

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I don't think much of the industry verifies much past 3 years , As I remember going into orientation without my work history , So I just put one business down that a friend owned as a 10 year reference I never worked there ,and there wasn't any income record of it with the IRS , But it flew on my application ,And never heard 1 word about it . Now Criminal history ,DMV , DAC I know they check , But non DOT related employers beyond 3 years II don't think they look real hard at .

Roadhog 12-26-2007 01:23 PM

...When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask right away.. is if they ever press charges. :? :)

kahlana 12-26-2007 01:34 PM

roadhog... wanted to let you know.. i'm findin your info super useful thank you so much.. cant wait to read the next bit :D

marinetrucker 12-27-2007 10:10 PM

roadhog, I read your posts last night and all your information is so great to have. I thank you so much for sharing all this knowledge with us. Now I think I am about ready to take the plunge into the trucking business. This forum has really taught me a lot. I am planning on going to school at the end of April with graduation coming the end of May. I have a question for you. How soon should I start contacting companies to ask them all my questions? Seems it is a little early to start calling them now.

Again, thank you for all your help. :D

Roadhog 12-28-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by marinetrucker
How soon should I start contacting companies to ask them all my questions? Seems it is a little early to start calling them now.

Welcome to CAD marinetrucker!

Your enthusiasm is refreshing. Someone helped each one of us when we started out. Learning from people who already walked the walk is your best move for now.

I agree, you have plenty of time before school in April, so begin addressing questions on the various forums here on CAD.

We have quite a few company recruiters as well as experienced drivers to learn from. I think most questions you have can be answered here, where you will have a great chance to engage in discussion. Ask all your questions as many as you want. Each question may open up new ideas to think about, and people here will be happy to help.

Thank you for the compliment... :D

mbadriver 12-31-2007 04:15 PM

Take a shower, shave your mug, and wear clean clothing appropriate for the position. Bonus point, fill out the application correctly. More bonus points, if you actually speak to someone used complete sentences and a dearth of "cuss words."

Companies - they will do as they please. Don't waste your time trying to change the organization.

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wow


n2kraln 01-01-2008 12:30 AM

I was talking to a recruiter today on the phone as she was going over my app i filled out online and going over my driving experience and she knew that i had pulled a skateboard for a company in '99 that on the app i had just put it as dry van . Not real sure where she pulled that up from but the company i was working for back then i kinda did whatever they needed and liked doing the skateboard thing but if my paycheck meant i had to swing barn doors for a few day and haul palletized coils in one that's what i did .

Big Daddy RECON 01-04-2008 09:17 AM

GREAT POST roadhog

As a tru NooB to the OTR experiance I found your post truely insightfull

You obviously well educated and extremely articulate. Thank you for sharing you industry knowledge.

kreeper01 01-04-2008 08:10 PM

What RoadHog wrote is a sad reality, but very much true in the trucking industry. Also, some people are not cut out to be a trucker.

mbadriver 01-14-2008 10:36 AM

Re: The Driver and The Employer, Basic Job Hunting Skills
 
Typically, they run an MVR for 5 or 10 years. Criminal, unless it is a Felony , is darn near impossible to verify. I believe even Felonies are handled on a state by state basis.

Misdemeanors are a different animal. They are reported either by municipality or County. Say you got a misdemeanor in Twodot, Montana in 1987. There is virtually no way anyone is going to find out, unless you happen to be domiciled in Twodot. All the misdemeanor stuff is by County. No one is going to do a County by County Criminal History search for a stinking truck driver.

Heck Bush's DUI in Maine was just happened upon by a reporter fishing around because the Bushies do summers in Kennebunkport.

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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
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Originally Posted by roadhog
The Industry
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Basic Job Hunting Tips
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But...with that info, be accurate. Don't waste their time or yours, or worse, be hired and fired for falsifying an application.

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I don't think much of the industry verifies much past 3 years , As I remember going into orientation without my work history , So I just put one business down that a friend owned as a 10 year reference I never worked there ,and there wasn't any income record of it with the IRS , But it flew on my application ,And never heard 1 word about it . Now Criminal history ,DMV , DAC I know they check , But non DOT related employers beyond 3 years II don't think they look real hard at .


hillbillyinidaho 01-16-2008 05:53 PM

Just starting out
 
I Started by submitting an online application. I have had several Telephone conversations in the process of reviewing my Application. I believe one of the last calls i received was a telephone interview. My questions are.

1.Is there a face to face when you get there, keep in mind that i will be doing their company sponsored training because its been 6 yrs since I was behind the wheel.

2. What part does the Medical play in the Application process in hiring Drivers who have medical conditions but meet the the federal Guide lines to drive. Are they considered undesirable canadates?

Twilight Flyer 01-18-2008 12:40 PM

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1.Is there a face to face when you get there, keep in mind that i will be doing their company sponsored training because its been 6 yrs since I was behind the wheel.
That's hard to say...it probably depends on the company. Most of the time, when you have been invited the orientation, that actual interview and selection process is already over. If you're on your way in, they've at least selected you to be there. Of course, that may run differently with training companies.

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2. What part does the Medical play in the Application process in hiring Drivers who have medical conditions but meet the the federal Guide lines to drive. Are they considered undesirable canadates?
Again, that's going to depend on the company and on what medical situations you are talking about. It's always in your best interest to be up front with your recruiter. If you have issues that need to be addressed, it's better to get them addressed before you get there, which will only result in you being sent home and likely not invited back. Failure to let them know will be considered intentional and you probably won't get another shot at them. But if you tell them up front what the issues are, then they know and if there is anything that they need in the way of paperwork or any additional procedure that you'll need done, you'll be coming in prepared. That goes a long way.

mbadriver 01-20-2008 01:56 AM

Methinks roaddog copied this stuff from Monster or CareerBuilder.

For the trucking industry this is way TMI (Too Much Information). Interview - it's a 5-minute telephone process that they basically have you verify what you entered on the application.

Benefits - look at their website.
Pay - Clarify the misleading information on their website.
Hometime - Look at their website, ask them to clarify weasel wording and misleading information.
Equipment - Look at their website. Don't count on getting the shiny one in the picture.

Trucking isn't hard. In reality, it's darn simple. Look around the truckstops. You got people that can't even figure out how to take a shower, comb their hair, shave, find clean clothes, or maintain a normal weight. Somehow these Einsteins get a job (it's a job not a career), get through orientation, find the right highway, find the shipper, find the next highway, find the fuel stop, find the consignee, find the dock, send a qualcomm, and then do it all over again. Heck, even a Swift driver knows you can always find a Pilot at an airport.

The first year flies by. Within 6-months you have pretty much learned all there is to know. The rest of time is fiddling around and fine tuning.

Trucking isn't for everyone. Neither is being a Doctor, Lawyer, or President.

As roaddog said KISS. Trucking is simple, don't make it complicated. Having to remind people not to do drugs before drug testing is indicative of how high the bar is set.

Don't think I am being negative. Roaddog has good intentions. If the industry operated at the level of his idealism, we wouldn't have companies clamoring to hire the mildly retarded (52-69 IQ), criminals, sociopaths, and dirty furballs.

It sux to be sterotyped with the dregs of the industry. To combat the initial prejudices put on your best face, be polite, use complete sentences, exercise common decency, and act like you know what you are doing. Don't take it personal, and don't take your personal baggage to the shipper/consignee.

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Originally Posted by kahlana
roadhog... wanted to let you know.. i'm findin your info super useful thank you so much.. cant wait to read the next bit :D


Roadhog 01-22-2008 04:05 AM

mbadriver...
You misquoted me on KISS by the way.

I do not agree with you that in an interview these 5 main questions are too much information.
We cannot say what someone’s interview is going to include. Maybe you have only had 5-minute telephone interviews. I never have, but I understand that may be the case with some companies, as a figure of speech. I am trying to address the full scope.
My last interview for example, was a sit down with two separate people, and lasted over an hour. I first talked with the owner, and we had a great trucker to trucker talk. We both shared our experiences and outlook on the business. I liked him and felt I would enjoy working for him. He liked me and referred me to the manager. With the manager, it was more business and down to the details, and filling out more forms.

I’ve been here for a while, and saw a need new comers have on certain subjects. The most recent one was the topic on Interviews. I’ve never claimed to be any authority and expressed this to be used as guidelines.

I decided to make the effort to include whatever someone might encounter during an interview. The point is to give people as complete an idea as possible to work with. I tried hard to include everything I could think of or come up with.
I also stated one must take from this info and apply it to themselves and their situation. Everyone’s equation will add up differently.
People are all unique, but more so, every one who comes here deserves as much a chance to find the answers to their questions. Someone may come here, and one day own a fleet of trucks. Who are we to say they can only look forward to a dead-end job? An experienced driver can go in numerous directions in the Industry.

Lets not trivialize this Trade. I have been in trucking for 7 years now, and I still love the business. I promise you, if I were to spend even 1 hour right now applying myself to learning, I could learn new things about trucking that I didn’t know before. I worked in the construction trades for 30 years. I was continually learning and adapting to the industry as it changed. There was never one day go by, I could not learn something new, and seems with each new person I met, I learned most from them.

That hopefully is the case here on this forum. With each person here, we can all learn something new, and share it with someone else. Some of us come here to give something back, as well as experience and learn new things ourselves. Just a reminder, this forum is for the new comers. I hope we let them feel comfortable asking any question, however simple or difficult.

mbadriver 01-28-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by roadhog
mbadriver...
You misquoted me on KISS by the way.

I do not agree with you that in an interview these 5 main questions are too much information.
We cannot say what someone’s interview is going to include. Maybe you have only had 5-minute telephone interviews. I never have, but I understand that may be the case with some companies, as a figure of speech. I am trying to address the full scope.
My last interview for example, was a sit down with two separate people, and lasted over an hour. I first talked with the owner, and we had a great trucker to trucker talk. We both shared our experiences and outlook on the business. I liked him and felt I would enjoy working for him. He liked me and referred me to the manager. With the manager, it was more business and down to the details, and filling out more forms.

All my experiences have been with larger carriers. That probably explains why I have never had a face to face. Must be nice to work at a place "where everybody knows your name."

I’ve been here for a while, and saw a need new comers have on certain subjects. The most recent one was the topic on Interviews. I’ve never claimed to be any authority and expressed this to be used as guidelines.

You are certainly correct. Your efforts are commendable. Sorry, if I came off trite.


I decided to make the effort to include whatever someone might encounter during an interview. The point is to give people as complete an idea as possible to work with. I tried hard to include everything I could think of or come up with.
I also stated one must take from this info and apply it to themselves and their situation. Everyone’s equation will add up differently.
People are all unique, but more so, every one who comes here deserves as much a chance to find the answers to their questions. Someone may come here, and one day own a fleet of trucks. Who are we to say they can only look forward to a dead-end job? An experienced driver can go in numerous directions in the Industry.

A thorough job indeed. Better informed drivers are an asset to the trade. In the long run it just may force some companies to change their ways.

Lets not trivialize this Trade. I have been in trucking for 7 years now, and I still love the business. I promise you, if I were to spend even 1 hour right now applying myself to learning, I could learn new things about trucking that I didn’t know before. I worked in the construction trades for 30 years. I was continually learning and adapting to the industry as it changed. There was never one day go by, I could not learn something new, and seems with each new person I met, I learned most from them.

I too love this business. There are new things to learn for sure. But the nuts and bolts of the job aren't that difficult. That is why a few months soloing qualifies one as an experienced driver.

The "extra" knowledge I pick up is generally "someone elses job" like minor mechanical repairs. Or getting myself out of situation I should never have gotten into :lol:

Nevertheless, you are offering good advice.

That hopefully is the case here on this forum. With each person here, we can all learn something new, and share it with someone else. Some of us come here to give something back, as well as experience and learn new things ourselves. Just a reminder, this forum is for the new comers. I hope we let them feel comfortable asking any question, however simple or difficult.

Amen to that.



ogre999 02-13-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stanman63
the only thing i dont like about your post is the felon remark i wish that people would relize that us felons do change and get our lifes back on track not all do but some of us do make changes in our life for the good i just wish the corp. world would look at a felon like they do there ceo type felons who get there six figure jops back after they do there time and my felony is seventeen years old and it still haunts me so you young guys need to think about what u do in your life and dont get a life long sentence


They do realize ...honestly ...I have a mark too ...I wasnt even convicted ...just the charge and its biting me in the ass ...and I used to slap badboys in cages even and still ...but

But cold hard fact ... they place hundreds of thousands of dollars of equip. and friegt in your hands ...

you and I both know truth is whatever you and I did do ..was probably stupid ...and avoidable even if it didnt seem so at the time ...

so I "feel " you ...but I have to "agree " with them ... cause even if you and I mean what we say ...and are striaght ...theres a hundred thousand of our "comrades" still sniffin around for free meal tickets on the ground ...and "THEY" are the reason for the way things are ...not us ...doesnt matter

I always believe what god is asking me in times like this is what any father would ask .." How Bad do you really want it ?"...so I just keep going ... Good luck man ...I mean no offence to you brother ....just seems to be the breaks as I see it .

Shawn(Ogre)

ogre999 02-13-2008 12:13 PM

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Good point to emphasize Stanman. I don't like this part of reality either...and I assure you the Recruiters don't as well.
Its not the recruiters rule. We dont make company policy, we just have to go by it.
As much as I would like to hire more people, I do understand why these policies are in place.
You have a 17 year old felony and its absolutely great that you say you have changed your life around. However the simple fact is that most felons dont change. Most are repeat offenders. I dont see these policies in the trucking insustry changing any time soon. In fact I would predict that in the futue they will become more strict. We live in an information age. All people are aquiring a huge electronic paper trail and its getting easier and easier for employers to do background checks. And in thetime we live in its become a society where people sue for anything. I said this before, the reason companies shy away from hiring felons is because of LIABILITY. A person with an electronic paper trail of everything they have done wrong in their life becomes a liability to successful companies. And companies have to protect their assets at all costs. The best thing we can do about this is drill into our kids that the stupid choices you make can come back and haunt you for the rest of your life. Sad as it might seem, rewarding someone who has a criminal record with a good job, teaches our kids that there are no serious consiquinces for their actions. Rewarding someone with no criminal record with the good jobs, teaches our children that smart choices get the rewards.


AMEN ...!

ogre999 02-13-2008 12:30 PM

Thank you Sir ...best I have heard yet ...and I have gotten much from these forums already ....

Man I cannot really express how this mirrors much of what Ihave learned alredy ...

Iam glad to see that my "attitude " is at least in the right place ...I have had a few rejections for an old felony charge ...I think ...they cant really tell you ...but some have "hinted " which was really cool and I will thank them again here also ...

But I have gotten paperwork from the state that clears me , and state that it was "dropped"

Man ... I guess I feel kinda silly cause since I decided to do this its kinda like being a little kid all over again ...
and I just feel like stompin my foot and sayin " I just wanna be a truck driver !!!!" stomp stomp stomp ...okay I'm better now ...I gotta run but seriously ...thanks dude !!! you helped alot

ogre999 02-17-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BanditsCousin
You can still ride a long with me if ya want. As long as you don't demand the 120v plug for the cooler :)

I would take you up on it, but in 10 days I leave this place and head back down to my nice warm climate. 8) And if I never come back up here it will be to soon :D ......oh, and btw, I HAD forgoten about that plug until NOW! :wink:

OKay ...whats with the plug thing guys ...REASON I ask is ...having my own private lap top along ...was part of my plan ....did I miss something ???

Shawn

ogre999 02-17-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wot i life
Post subject:

Top 10 Questions to Ask a Potential Trucking Employer



Your Benefits' Worth
What to Ask After the Offer


Great news: You've got what seems like a solid offer to drive for a reputable trucking company. But before you hop in the cab, you'll want to know certain details about the firm's policies to determine whether the job measures up to your expectations. To get the answers you're looking for, ask a potential employer these 10 key questions:

What Is Your Home-Time Policy?

Long-haul drivers put in long hours on the road, says Kelly Anderson, president of Impact Transportation Solutions. But if a company promises you one day off a week, clarify how it defines a day.

Anderson offers this possible scenario: "Here I am this morning arriving back to the terminal, unloading truck, going home. If I have three days off coming, then today is one of them -- I've wasted half a day (out of my three days off). A time-off policy means three complete days off."

What Are Your Major Lanes?

Find out what typical routes, distances and regions your prospective employer wants you to travel. Trucking career consultant Craig Robins says a driver who lives in a remote area may be better off choosing an employer with a nearby terminal location for truck fueling and maintenance rather than going with a higher-paying company that doesn't have any terminals near home.

What Type of Equipment Will I Have?

Particularly for long-haul work, "you want to be comfortable," Anderson says. Ask if the company will assign you equipment and what that will include. Will you get an air-ride suspension? A sleeper on the truck? What size? Since you will be spending most of your time with this equipment, make sure you can live with it.

Do You Provide Layover Pay?

Layover is the wait or delay a trucker experiences between scheduled loads. In general, a driver should expect to receive layover pay for wait times beyond his control.

Do You Slip-Seat?

When a driver takes time off, he may have to cede, or "slip-seat," his assigned truckload (and truck) to another driver, Robins says. If you don't want to share your truck, look for an employer with a no slip-seat policy.

How Much Do You Pay?

Check out Monster's Salary Center for current driver pay scales. Demand is strong, so don't let a firm shortchange you. Anderson recommends evaluating the pay offered in terms of cents per mile.

But do so with caution, says Mitch Bookbinder, recruiter for national firm L.J. Kennedy Trucking. For instance, getting paid 50 cents a mile might sound great -- unless you'll be driving and living in an expensive, congested region like New York City.

What Are the Benefits?

Benefits are closely linked to pay, so don't consider one without the other.
"If you are looking at employers, find out how many miles per month, cents per mile and what are (your) costs for benefits and road expenses," Anderson advises. Some companies offer full medical, dental, vision and short-term disability coverage. The less the coverage, the more cents per mile you'll want.

Do You Pay for Lumpers?

Lumpers are for-hire loaders at a warehouse. A carrier may pay you to load or unload the freight for your truck or let you pay a lumper to do it. Find out if your potential employer will pay or compensate for the lumper.

Do You Offer Bonuses?

Some companies offer bonuses for a good driving record and performance, so it pays to ask. Robins also recommends asking if the company offers sign-on bonuses.

Will I Get a Dedicated Driver Manager?

A driver manager is particularly important if you're just starting out as a driver. Having a direct manager to work with can foster a good company relationship, enhance your promotion chances and help you resolve concerns and issues quickly.

I got this off of monster.com

I would also ask a company about tolls and scales. Who pays for them? Do they allow riders and if so whats the policy (including pets). POwer inverters allowed. Ibamars :wink:



WoW ...thanks ...exactly what I needed to know ...coppied it to the desktop and will use it for phone interviews and driver recriiters ...thanks !

Shawn(Ogre)

ogre999 02-17-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by roadhog
THE INTERVIEW pt.2 (questions you should ask)
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In the first part, we discussed questions you may be asked. In this part 2, we will suggest some things you might ask. There are some suggestions already made in prior posts in this thread. I hope others will also add their comments and suggestions in further discussion.
Are you making lists yet? You should be jotting down any bit of information that catches your interest, or seems to apply directly to you and your driving career interest. Scan through the archives and any topic titles that spark your interest, make notes of the things you feel are valuable to you. Take the time to put this info into categories of interest, later in a folder you are building, and compress this info.

Any questions you have in regards to whether or not you wish to work for a particular company should have been addressed before now. It is up to you to do enough research, to know the preliminary requirements, as to your qualifications, and what this company offers, to know should you apply to this company and proceed into the interview phase. For the experienced driver, that might be relatively easy. For inexperienced drivers or driver candidates, they will feel overwhelmed with questions, and in most cases not know what to even ask about. We’ll see what we can do to help you with some of our insight and perspectives.

Lets get the no.1 question out of the way first. This part you should already know from preliminary research. You new drivers all focus on this one question, so lets just get right after it. I don’t want you going into your interview fixated on this, or let this be the first question you ask.

How Much Money Will I Make?

This is a tall question, and it will vary significantly across the board. Brand new drivers are going to generally make less, than a driver with 1-2 years experience. But there are exceptions. Where you drive, what you drive (Tanker, Reefer, Flat, etc), how hard you drive, what you haul, how many benefits do you receive on top of your pay, the size of the company, your driver credentials (ie. Endorsements, driving experience), how many hours you work, and other factors. Many companies post pay scales and yearly averages, so you should be able to find this info straight away.
Lets try to make this simple and pare it down to something easy to quantify.

National average for Company truck driver pay.
Lowest paid or 25% make approximately $32,000/ year
The median pay is approximately $37,000/ year
Upper paid or 75% make approximately $43,000/ year

This is base pay, not including benefits, or other incentives you might make.
You might do better than this, or be one of the lucky drivers to have richer opportunities.
Again, I must point out, your circumstances may vary. Ambitious drivers can often find pay averages that exceed these figures. A driver willing to stay out for long periods, or some large companies can keep you in higher figures. The drivers who make that extra buck, are the ones who when they are ready to come home, instead take that extra load. Very few drivers work less and get paid more. But drivers who stick with a company and not job hop often come out with higher yearly income.

Realistically speaking, if you are a career minded driver who does not job hop, and practices professionalism, and works at advancing themselves, will find yearly wages from $48,000 to $70,000 a year. Drivers in this category work at distinguishing themselves above the pack. They are not getting speeding tickets or continually banging up the rig, and finding every excuse for why it wasn’t their fault. Some even relocate to areas where jobs typically pay better. If you want to advance, there is room to do so.

Is This Company A Good Deal, Or Not?

You need to ask the questions. Just like how the company interviewer asks you questions, now the agenda is yours. Let them answer the tough questions, and sell themselves to you. Companies recruit drivers in their own ways, and they vary. You can sometimes tell if they are “altering” the truth, however if you catch them in a lie, they don’t risk much of anything. So, you really need to prepare this end of your negotiations, so you set yourself up for the best deal possible.
Some recruiters can make a poor deal sound real good. Last recruiter I spoke with got backed into a corner more than once, and the responses were so lame, yet had I not been a seasoned driver, I would have been duped. I’m sorry, but in this regard, you will have to fend for yourself. Call it the school of hard knocks, and you hope to one day become a Road Scholar. Meanwhile, preparation, preparation, preparation.

I’d start out with asking what their benefits are and how much the driver is expected to pay for them. Boy I learned this lesson! I went through the application, and interview, and was even hired on the spot, and then I asked about the benefits. No benefits, just 24% of freight, that’s what we offer. My eye twitches every time I am reminded of that. I even drove 80 miles one way to the interview. You are going to make mistakes, and have your own personal horror stories. We all do. I could have learned of this on the phone. http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...zx11pissed.gif http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l236/Leland10/wtf.gif

With the regard to health insurance, some companies will not tell what the driver has to pay unless you specifically ask. If you need certain medical coverage, family considerations or say dental care, ask the questions. What are the other benefits that are offered. How long is the probation period. Many have adopted the 90 day to benefits rule. That is a long time to wait, so be sure what you are investing yourself in, is worth it.

You should have a strategy to your questions. As I mentioned earlier, you don’t want to start out on the money issue. You will just come across more sincere in your desire to be hired, if you show more depth about what concerns you. Also, as I indicated, some research and preliminary questions on your part BEFORE you get to the interview, should have already addressed some of this concern. How much information is made available to you, and what your research has turned up thus far will help you decide what further questions you need to ask. Likewise, list your priorities. You want to get the Lions share of your most important questions answered upfront, before the interview begins to degrade. Being well thought out alone is going to impress any interviewer, and you will keep their interest in answering your questions higher.

Questions You Might Ask
You design your own list according to the info you still need, and the priorities that fit you.

I like to ask about the equipment. I want to know what make of Truck, is it governed and if so, at what speed, how old are they, purchased 4 years or newer, which transmission, which engine, are they fitted with engine brakes, size of sleeper, is it a condo…or? Equipped with refrigerators, CB, GPS, stereo, power inverter. I would want to know if they do all the maintenance and repairs, or is this scheduled in route, do they pay for down time, is there a motel allowance for downtime, and on that subject…is there any daily allowance on layovers. Can you view some of the trucks, talk with the mechanics, what about truck/trailer washes, how often are you allowed a wash, reimbursed for interior cleaning supplies. Policy on trailer washouts.

For new drivers and or candidates. You will have many training related questions. How many hours of training is offered. The experience level of a trainer. About the training contract details. If you leave before 90 days, how much would you have to pay. Does the trainer receive extra pay. Will you solo after training. What is paid during orientation. Motel, transportation, and any daily allowance for food. What are the company turnover rates.

You want to know how you will be paid. If percentage, what does the average load cost. CPM, how is mileage calculated, computer program, Rand McNally, hub. Do they hold the first paycheck 2 weeks. Is there direct deposit pay. Is there a cell phone reimbursement allowance. How has their business been lately. Who are some of their accounts and are they long standing accounts. Do they bring in new customers. Is there a seniority to pull the better accounts. Detention pay. Average deadheading. Average time loading, (experienced drivers recognize certain accounts as typically long detentions) so it is important to some drivers whose accounts they will be working.

Loading/unloading responsibilities, policy on product count, shortages or damage. Lumper fees, securing a load, company fuel card, what card, which truck stops do they use, is there any Idle-Aire allowance. Are there multiple picks or drops, outfitted with PrePass, how are toll, scale, and misc. supplies handled, Comdata card, or advance pay, forced dispatch or broker, daily check-in calls, routing, loading and off-loading check in, paperless logs, length of time out, rider policy, pet policy, dress code, uniforms, can driver install/not install certain personal items.

:shock: Holly Crap On Crackers Brother ... Look if I make it out there ...I hope I run across you ...cause as far as I am concerned ..I at least owe you lunch !!!!

wow ...I bet the next recruiter I talk to hates me :P just kidding ... as you said also communication ...in the end were all just tryna do our job and go home ... Thanks Bro !!!!

Shawn (Ogre)

ogre999 02-17-2008 11:17 AM

Blaksheep ? Can you weigh in on this from the recruiter stand point ... not hedgin betts ...just want to be as successful as I can ...

Uhh and who do you recruit for ...I cannot Private message yet ...but would like to ask you off record questions about what I am facing in trying to get hired ...

Thanks
Shawn

kahlana 03-01-2008 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogre999
Man ... I guess I feel kinda silly cause since I decided to do this its kinda like being a little kid all over again ...
and I just feel like stompin my foot and sayin " I just wanna be a truck driver !!!!" stomp stomp stomp ...

boy oh boy do i know how you feel there....sigh

ogre999 03-01-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kahlana
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogre999
Man ... I guess I feel kinda silly cause since I decided to do this its kinda like being a little kid all over again ...
and I just feel like stompin my foot and sayin " I just wanna be a truck driver !!!!" stomp stomp stomp ...

boy oh boy do i know how you feel there....sigh


"are you Uhhhh Mocking me ?" ... Buzz Lightyear :lol:

castlecreator 03-04-2008 10:17 PM

Re: The Driver and The Employer, Basic Job Hunting Skills
 
Hey Roadhog,

I'm new on here and trying to decide about Roadmaster, or signing with a company like Pumpkin or Conay, but anyways... that was some awsome information and will help many out!!

Thanks
Eddie

Roadhog 03-05-2008 10:51 PM

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...and10/29-1.gif
...and thank you. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help you.
Enjoy the forums.
...Hog

kahlana 04-07-2008 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ogre999
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Originally Posted by kahlana
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogre999
Man ... I guess I feel kinda silly cause since I decided to do this its kinda like being a little kid all over again ...
and I just feel like stompin my foot and sayin " I just wanna be a truck driver !!!!" stomp stomp stomp ...

boy oh boy do i know how you feel there....sigh


"are you Uhhhh Mocking me ?" ... Buzz Lightyear :lol:

Nope.. not at all.. now that i have found out that my ex-husband is in jail for domestic violence and drug pssoession i have to get my 15 year old daughter out of Alaska and that means putting my trucking school stuff on hold... so i am very very bummed about not getting to get things going right now but my daughter is way more important so i can put things off for a little while for her.

Trukrswyfe 04-07-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kahlana
Nope.. not at all.. now that i have found out that my ex-husband is in jail for domestic violence and drug pssoession i have to get my 15 year old daughter out of Alaska and that means putting my trucking school stuff on hold... so i am very very bummed about not getting to get things going right now but my daughter is way more important so i can put things off for a little while for her.

sorry to hear about your delay but glad to hear that you are there for your daughter sounds like she needs you. Hope everything goes well and both of you are back on track,
I have always wanted to see Alaska, is it really as beautiful as Men in Trees makes it seem.

I have friends and they say it is pretty swampy in places, not sure if you know what Alaska is like.

Best of luck with your travel and your daughter hope she is OK.

DDCavi 04-14-2008 05:19 PM

This thread gets a standing ovation from myself. I havent started school yet but I already feel more at peace with my choice.

pd 04-24-2008 03:59 AM

Thanks for the original post Roadhog, and all of the other contributors that have added to the thread. I've just gotten my Class A and am searching for that first seat and this info is proving to be very valuable.

EagleAce 05-08-2008 09:27 PM

I got my class A in January. I didn't hit the road right after school because I was planning on getting a driving job with my current company, but right after I got my license they changed their policy on new drivers :x They used to train people for the passenger endorsement which is required to drive for them as most of the jobs are shuttle buses, but they are no longer authorized by the DMV to train people. I've applied with GTI and they want me to take a refresher course since I haven't been in a truck since school. Stevens denied my app and couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me why. They say they get 200+ apps a day.

thanks roadhog for the great info! :D

bailie23 07-24-2008 05:18 PM

No Accident on MVR but on my DAC Report
 
How do I tell a potential employer about an accident I was involved in. I did not receive a citation nor a ticket for this accident. The accident is now six months old, but is not on my mvr nor on the mvr for the dac report. It just states I have one preventable accident and it does not list the city or state it took place in. Nor does anywhere say I was at fault. I am a new driver with six month experience.

Can some one please help me. I did loose my job, but not over the accident, it was over parking on the on-ramp.


Thanks

Casey :oops:

EagleAce 07-25-2008 03:50 AM

:D I finished training w/ GTI last week and get my own truck tomorrow!!

fruitloop 07-26-2008 09:42 PM

wow, that was a wonderful post
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