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robbiecox6 05-02-2007 02:46 PM

CRETE or SCHNEIDER
 
:oops: I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN CRETE OR SCHNEIDER, WHICH IS THE BEST CHOICE?

Rev.Vassago 05-02-2007 02:50 PM

Why do you have to choose between those two?

robbiecox6 05-02-2007 02:54 PM

CRETE or SCHNEIDER
 
I HAVE ALSO BEEN ACCEPT BY WERNER & MAVERICK.

05-02-2007 02:58 PM

If you want to pull a van go with Crete they are one of the best companies out there bar none also as a new driver have one of the best pay rates out there. If you want to pull a skateboard AKA a flatbed then go with Maverick one of the BEST companies OUT THERE what so ever. Flat out forget about Werner unless you want to make only .25 cpm or Pumpkin AKA Schienders .27 cpm Crete starts you off at .32 cpm so 5 cents higher per mile so more money per mile.

robbiecox6 05-02-2007 03:00 PM

CRETE or SCHNEIDER
 
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT!!!!!!!!! :D

Rev.Vassago 05-02-2007 03:09 PM

Is your caps lock broken?

devildice 05-02-2007 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

Maybe he's a loud talker....one of those guys that doesn't realize their yelling when in a normal conversation...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

05-02-2007 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

way to contribute rev good job as usual :roll:


Crete all the way. If you want flatbed, Maverick.

evertruckerr 05-02-2007 07:13 PM

Hands down, without hesitation CRETE :!:

serbie 05-02-2007 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

way to contribute rev good job as usual :roll:


Rev, have to admit. Your a wealth of information about the industry. You quote rules out of the FMCSA left and right, and a decent Photo shop creator.

But sometimes... when your not sharing wisdom.. your like the younger sibling in the car, continuously poking who ever is sitting next to you. For the entire 6 hour ride.

For the companies you've listed. I've only been with Werner, they don't get my vote due to the lack of CPM. Heard great things about the other 3 co. though.

To echo Rev's comment, why just these companies?

Rev.Vassago 05-03-2007 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by serbie
But sometimes... when your not sharing wisdom.. your like the younger sibling in the car, continuously poking who ever is sitting next to you. For the entire 6 hour ride.


Originally Posted by serbie

To echo Rev's comment, why just these companies?

Wow, is this a conflicting post. :lol:

Ian Williams 05-03-2007 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by serbie
But sometimes... when your not sharing wisdom.. your like the younger sibling in the car, continuously poking who ever is sitting next to you. For the entire 6 hour ride.

Are where there yet? Are we there yet? How about know?

Ahh..recalling fond memories of a week long RV trip with my grandparents and cousin with her New Kids on the Block tape that never stopped playing.

Another vote for Schneider; IF you insist on doing the OTR thing.

There is plenty of local work most places if you look. I earn ok money and sleep in my own bed every night.

inmate1577 05-03-2007 02:14 PM

Go with SNI.

05-03-2007 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

serbie 05-03-2007 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

Originally Posted by serbie
But sometimes... when your not sharing wisdom.. your like the younger sibling in the car, continuously poking who ever is sitting next to you. For the entire 6 hour ride.


Originally Posted by serbie

To echo Rev's comment, why just these companies?

Wow, is this a conflicting post. :lol:

Well, not really. Was echoing your original question of why just these two. Which was a valid question.

The first comment was in response to


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

8)



to the original poster, have you decided which co. to go with??

inmate1577 05-03-2007 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

You only get paid less, if you work less. Plus SNI has better training than the rest.

Rev.Vassago 05-04-2007 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by serbie
Well, not really. Was echoing your original question of why just these two. Which was a valid question.

The first comment was in response to


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

8)

I know - I'm just razzing ya.

05-04-2007 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

You only get paid less, if you work less. Plus SNI has better training than the rest.

What??? If you get paid less CPM..you get paid less regardless of whether you do the same amount of work or not...I dont get your statement

serbie 05-04-2007 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

Originally Posted by serbie
Well, not really. Was echoing your original question of why just these two. Which was a valid question.

The first comment was in response to


Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Is your caps lock broken?

8)

I know - I'm just razzing ya.

Sad thing is, I knew it.. but couldn't help but to defend my self lol

Rev.Vassago 05-04-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by serbie
Sad thing is, I knew it.. but couldn't help but to defend my self lol

Remember - it's the internet - it isn't real. :wink:

inmate1577 05-04-2007 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Jagerbomber

Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

You only get paid less, if you work less. Plus SNI has better training than the rest.

What??? If you get paid less CPM..you get paid less regardless of whether you do the same amount of work or not...I dont get your statement

I dont care if you get $1.00 a mile, if you have to sit and wait for freight
the pay is irrelevent. I hear the myth of "slow freight" but I'd like to sit a day and not run and just relax. As it is, I get plenty of freight and plenty of miles.
Usually I have a load waiting before I have dropped off the first load.
A newb shouldnt get into this industry looking for a quick buck, but should get into the industry to get the experience, the more experience, the more he/she becomes efficient, the more miles they turn, the more money they make.

myndsplyntur 05-05-2007 02:30 AM

I thought Crete and Schneider were basically the same company... one was dry van and one was reefer... ??

Either way. Since we're on the subject, does Crete hire new graduates? I couldn't find info confirming they did anywhere.

Karnajj 05-05-2007 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Jagerbomber

Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

You only get paid less, if you work less. Plus SNI has better training than the rest.

What??? If you get paid less CPM..you get paid less regardless of whether you do the same amount of work or not...I dont get your statement

I dont care if you get $1.00 a mile, if you have to sit and wait for freight
the pay is irrelevent. I hear the myth of "slow freight" but I'd like to sit a day and not run and just relax. As it is, I get plenty of freight and plenty of miles.
Usually I have a load waiting before I have dropped off the first load.
A newb shouldnt get into this industry looking for a quick buck, but should get into the industry to get the experience, the more experience, the more he/she becomes efficient, the more miles they turn, the more money they make.

Exactly, that's why you would get so much more experience at Crete and make more money to boot. Crete drivers travel all 48 states, Schneider drivers rarely get out of their home territory. With Crete you will get to experience a greater variety of weather conditions as well as terrain.

Karnajj 05-05-2007 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by myndsplyntur
I thought Crete and Schneider were basically the same company... one was dry van and one was reefer... ??

Either way. Since we're on the subject, does Crete hire new graduates? I couldn't find info confirming they did anywhere.

You are thinking of Crete and Schaffer. Schneider isn't nearly the company that Crete is. Crete does hire new grads but only if they attended a PTDI certified school. Training is 8 weeks and it is NOT considered a team situation. Your trainer may do some driving but you will do most of it.

inmate1577 05-05-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Karnajj

Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Jagerbomber

Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Prodigy

Originally Posted by inmate1577
Go with SNI.

yeah get paid less CPM and HHG. GOOOOO SNI!! :lol: :lol:

You only get paid less, if you work less. Plus SNI has better training than the rest.

What??? If you get paid less CPM..you get paid less regardless of whether you do the same amount of work or not...I dont get your statement

I dont care if you get $1.00 a mile, if you have to sit and wait for freight
the pay is irrelevent. I hear the myth of "slow freight" but I'd like to sit a day and not run and just relax. As it is, I get plenty of freight and plenty of miles.
Usually I have a load waiting before I have dropped off the first load.
A newb shouldnt get into this industry looking for a quick buck, but should get into the industry to get the experience, the more experience, the more he/she becomes efficient, the more miles they turn, the more money they make.

Exactly, that's why you would get so much more experience at Crete and make more money to boot. Crete drivers travel all 48 states, Scneider drivers rarely get out of their home territory. With Crete you will get to experience a greater variety of weather conditions as well as terrain.


Thats a load of bunk. I dont know who fed you that crap but its not true.
System drivers, both solo and team, run coast to coast. Now if you are like me, and only stay out 14 days at a time, you'll run closer to home. But if you choose to stay out longer you can run all 48 plus Canada. I choose to stay 14 days to get home sooner. Snow and ice in Minn or Wis isnt any different from the snow and ice in California.

Karnajj 05-05-2007 11:55 AM

That's very interesting. Then how come it is that when I travel I 80 west of Omaha I can drive all day and not see a single Schneider truck? I can go all the way out to gay bay and see one Schneider for every 30 to 40 Crete's. You see a few more down on I 40 but not many.

El Segundo 05-05-2007 01:56 PM

Schneider does not do much in the western part of the US. They do have a lot in California and some up north, but not much compared to central US and east (New York, New Jersy).

As a recent graduate of Schneider's Training Academy, I vote for SNI for the training. I will be going system, may get runs in any of the 48 States plus Canada. The .27 per mile is only for the first six months, then it goes up. The first year you have two raises total. 8)

inmate1577 05-06-2007 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by Karnajj
That's very interesting. Then how come it is that when I travel I 80 west of Omaha I can drive all day and not see a single Schneider truck? I can go all the way out to gay bay and see one Schneider for every 30 to 40 Crete's. You see a few more down on I 40 but not many.


There you have it. Because YOU havent seen it, IT doesnt exist.
Hey with great scientific research you should be able to find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster in no time at all.


Believe what your want, dont let facts get in your way.

myndsplyntur 05-06-2007 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by Karnajj

Originally Posted by myndsplyntur
I thought Crete and Schneider were basically the same company... one was dry van and one was reefer... ??

Either way. Since we're on the subject, does Crete hire new graduates? I couldn't find info confirming they did anywhere.

You are thinking of Crete and Schaffer. Schneider isn't nearly the company that Crete is. Crete does hire new grads but only if they attended a PTDI certified school. Training is 8 weeks and it is NOT considered a team situation. Your trainer may do some driving but you will do most of it.

Thanks for clarifying, my husband made fun of me for that one. :lol:
Crete and Schaffer sound like a great company...

What companies offer training for CDL license? Husband and I are wanting to team drive OTR. Problem is, saving up money for school. It's a good course, 8 weeks long, but coming up with the money is gonna be a pain... $2320 for both of us.

I've heard of companies that do their own training... just want to get some opinions from the experts before we get caught in a bad situation.

Karnajj 05-06-2007 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by inmate1577

Originally Posted by Karnajj
That's very interesting. Then how come it is that when I travel I 80 west of Omaha I can drive all day and not see a single Schneider truck? I can go all the way out to gay bay and see one Schneider for every 30 to 40 Crete's. You see a few more down on I 40 but not many.


There you have it. Because YOU havent seen it, IT doesnt exist.
Hey with great scientific research you should be able to find Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster in no time at all.


Believe what your want, dont let facts get in your way.

So I guess experience counts for nothing eh? I should just listen to you and ignore my own observations is that it? In my first year with Crete I saw every one of the lower 48 except Maine and I had a chance to go there too but I turned down that load offer. How many years does it take a Schneider driver to rack up 47 states? 5 or 10? Maybe never? I stand by my first post. If you want the most varied experience possible it's Crete without question.

evertruckerr 05-06-2007 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by El Segundo
Schneider does not do much in the western part of the US. They do have a lot in California and some up north, but not much compared to central US and east (New York, New Jersy).

As a recent graduate of Schneider's Training Academy, I vote for SNI for the training. I will be going system, may get runs in any of the 48 States plus Canada. The .27 per mile is only for the first six months, then it goes up. The first year you have two raises total. 8)


Why would you work for .27cpm, and how much does it go up to. 29cpm. WOW, big money. Crete students make .33cpm to start and that goes up to 41cpm after their 1st year. So if you run 3000 mile you get $810. A new student Crete driver get would get $990 for the same thing($1230 once that same driver has been with the company for a year). Over a year that means the newbie Crete driver makes roughly $9000 more. How expensive does that free training look now. Enjoy that orange truck.

By the way, I'm averaging over 3300 miles per week, YOU?


I know SNI is a good company, I have talked to a number of Crete drivers that USED to work for them. They all loved the company, but do the numbers. Why are you still there.

Best of Luck to you.

Drive safe!

evertruckerr 05-06-2007 02:39 PM

inmate wrote:


Snow and ice in Minn or Wis isnt any different from the snow and ice in California.
Really!

Only a newb would make such a silly statement. Or someone who has never driven in the snow and ice in both places. There is actually a significant difference, not to mention those annoying little hills that most people call mountains sure make a hell of a difference.

Karnajj 05-06-2007 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by myndsplyntur

Thanks for clarifying, my husband made fun of me for that one. :lol:
Crete and Schaffer sound like a great company...

What companies offer training for CDL license? Husband and I are wanting to team drive OTR. Problem is, saving up money for school. It's a good course, 8 weeks long, but coming up with the money is gonna be a pain... $2320 for both of us.

I've heard of companies that do their own training... just want to get some opinions from the experts before we get caught in a bad situation.

The problem with going to company sponsored training is that you are locked into that company until your bill has been paid. You can leave early but if you do the balance of what you owe is due immediately. The advantage is that there is little or no upfront cost to you.

IMHO you are better off going to an independent school and then having the luxury of picking who you want to drive for. Make sure that the school you pick is accepted by the companies you are looking at.

Also, be aware that you will train independently of each other once you reach your company. This will last from 6 to 8 weeks. Little chance that you will see each other in that time.

inmate1577 05-06-2007 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by evertruckerr
inmate wrote:


Snow and ice in Minn or Wis isnt any different from the snow and ice in California.
Really!

Only a newb would make such a silly statement. Or someone who has never driven in the snow and ice in both places. There is actually a significant difference, not to mentions those annoying little hills that most people call mountains sure make a hell of a difference.


NO, only someone who has experience driving on both coasts.
Thanks , you can go back to napping.

Clay51 05-07-2007 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by Karnajj
That's very interesting. Then how come it is that when I travel I 80 west of Omaha I can drive all day and not see a single Schneider truck? I can go all the way out to gay bay and see one Schneider for every 30 to 40 Crete's. You see a few more down on I 40 but not many.

You were not looking closely enough. My last two trip to Mexifornia over I-80, I saw plenty of Schneider equipment.

And the locomotive pulling them down the rail was making good time.

myndsplyntur 05-07-2007 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by evertruckerr

Originally Posted by El Segundo
Schneider does not do much in the western part of the US. They do have a lot in California and some up north, but not much compared to central US and east (New York, New Jersy).

As a recent graduate of Schneider's Training Academy, I vote for SNI for the training. I will be going system, may get runs in any of the 48 States plus Canada. The .27 per mile is only for the first six months, then it goes up. The first year you have two raises total. 8)


Why would you work for .27cpm, and how much does it go up to. 29cpm. WOW, big money. Crete students make .33cpm to start and that goes up to 41cpm after their 1st year. So if you run 3000 mile you get $810. A new student Crete driver get would get $990 for the same thing($1230 once that same driver has been with the company for a year). Over a year that means the newbie Crete driver makes roughly $9000 more. How expensive does that free training look now. Enjoy that orange truck.

By the way, I'm averaging over 3300 miles per week, YOU?


I know SNI is a good company, I have talked to a number of Crete drivers that USED to work for them. They all loved the company, but do the numbers. Why are you still there.

Best of Luck to you.

Drive safe!

LOL @ Schneider's pay, we called them this morning. $0.22 cpm for team drivers.

Karnajj 05-07-2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Clay51

Originally Posted by Karnajj
That's very interesting. Then how come it is that when I travel I 80 west of Omaha I can drive all day and not see a single Schneider truck? I can go all the way out to gay bay and see one Schneider for every 30 to 40 Crete's. You see a few more down on I 40 but not many.

You were not looking closely enough. My last two trip to Mexifornia over I-80, I saw plenty of Schneider equipment.

And the locomotive pulling them down the rail was making good time.

Exactly.

evertruckerr 05-07-2007 03:59 PM

Inmate wrote:


NO, only someone who has experience driving on both coasts.
Thanks , you can go back to napping.
:?: :?: :?:

I would love to debate the point with you, but it would seem that you don't actually have one :roll:

Nor can you actually claim that winter driving is identical no matter where you are at and expect anyone to take you seriously.

As far as the napping goes(strange little insult attempt that was), I must admit that your enthralling commentary does tend to lead one to grow a bit drowsy.

Here's an idea, have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

EXACTLY!

I was only jokin'

Not really :?


And with that I grow bored with you and shall not acknowledge your existence in the future.


By the way, I wouldn't want to be accused of derailing a wonderful thread, so shall we all go back to the beginning.

Answer: CRETE

GTR SILVER 05-07-2007 04:10 PM

bored
 
"bored"..............point well made though! :wink:

05-07-2007 05:24 PM

I get tired of defending the co. I wokr for. I never get any recruiting $ so screw it.


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