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I'm not trying to burst your bubble Johhny. I hope you do well! And I'm CERTAINLY not joining sides with CFM!! Just make SURE you keep good records, (paperwork?) and remember that it is the dispatcher's JOB to screw you out of pay, and save the company money! |
Re: OTR Drivers deserve better PAY
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Everyone has control over their potential earnings. Say you have two drivers working for the same company and on the same job. One made 70 grand, the other made 40 grand. I guarantee the one who made 70 grand did something different to make it happen. Happens all the time. In fact just last week, they brought in a few of our top earning drivers last year to corporarte. Our CO brought them up to recruiting and allowed us to ask them questions. One of the questions was "What was your secret to making more than everyone else" He gave us a pretty detailed answer of some of the things he did to do so well, but really it came down to this. He ran smarter than everyone else. Basically it did what it took to make that much. I find that funny that if you ask the top drivers anywhere that question. They will always answer the same way....THEY DID WHAT IT TOOK and on the other side of the coin if you ask the drivers on the bottom end of the payscale what they didnt do to succeed, they will ALWAYS say it wasnt their fault. Dont fall into that trap where you convince yourself that you dont control your pay. Thats exactly what the people at the bottom want you to think. People like to bring others down to their level. It helps them deal with where they are in life. When you start thinking that way and you fall into that trap, you have lost. |
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I will use us (jb) as an example too. Ive been doing this a long time. Ive hired 100s and 100s of drivers. Everytime one of the drivers Ive hired leaves, I get an email and that email tells me why they left or why they were fired. I always find out why. I also always call them to hear their side of the story. Very rarely does their version of what happened match what really happened. Example: Just last week I had a driver I hired about 7 weeks ago leave us. I got the email saying he was canned for unsatisfactory performance review. He was basically late quite a few times and he had a few "Incidents". Now, i called him and asked him what went wrong. He got real angry and said he quit because he "didnt get no miles". He sounded pretty convincing and might have taken his word for his little rant....however, of course, I knew the true story but just let him vent and even apologized to him. The funny thing was is I had his info pulled and saw that not only was he getting good miles, but way over company average. I have no doubt that driver today is going around telling everyone how JB hunt sucks and he "didnt get no miles". I think one mistake people make when they hear about huge "driver turnover" at large companies is they think the majority of those drivers quit. Some do.....but the majority of that turnover is people fired. From my experience of the drivers I hired, I would say it breaks down like this. About 60% of the drivers that I have hired who left were fired for one reason or another. About 20% left because they are just job hoppers and "the grass is always greener" I would say another 20% left because they were just not happy. That 20% that were not happy can sure make a lot of noise on the CB and the message boards. And when you factor in human nature where people dont like to admit their mistakes.....Quite a large portion of those 60% who were fired are going to be on message boards joining the 20% who had gripes. Think about it this way........Where are all the posts of drivers admitting they did something wrong and were fired? |
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You're something else. You talk about drivers blaming everyone but themselves, but I don't see anywhere in your calculations that drivers left because of issues that put JB Hunt at fault. The closest you came was the 20% that just weren't happy but failed to specify why they weren't happy. I never worked for JB and have no first hand knowledge of them, but they have a bad reputation. You claim that drivers only come on here to gripe, well it's funny I read nothing but bad things about JB and almost nothing but good things about Crete, KllM, Maverick, TMC, Melton, Heartland Express to name a few. By the way I don't work for any of the above companies but I do talk with the drivers as well as read about the companies here. |
Ive seen complaints about every one of those companies on message boards.
Wouldnt simple math tell you that if a company has 3 times the drivers as another company you would hear 3 times as many complaints? I was not saying that no big company or small company hasnt done something to a driver that could be considered as wrong. I was just pointing out that the majority of drivers who leave a company didnt quit, they were let go. And I was also pointing out that you never see drivers on message boards telling people that they were fired. I can go through my email and look at all the people I hired that left the company in the last 7 days. There were 7 of them. These are the reasons. 3 Failed a random drug test. ( which is happening alot lately now that we are doing hair drug tests), 2 were let go because performance review, 1 had a family emergency and 1 left because he wanted to be home more and we didnt have a dedicated job in his area open. So out of those 7 drivers who left here, 2 actually quit. Now, lets do the math. I hired 5 drivers in the last 7 days and 7 left. So this week I as a recruiter had a 140% turnover rate. Sounds terrible huh? However when you break it down and look at the reasons, it wasnt bad at all. And I would bet those 5 drivers who were canned are right now blaming the company and even blaming me as a recruiter. That is not exclusive to drivers, nor am I insinuating that. That is just human nature to pass the blame. It happens in any industry at any job. That was all I was trying to point out. |
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I been out of work for the last 7 years due to my health. But I rather been working, but when I lost my last job, I went to an all time lowest point of my life. It took that to show me not all were the companies fault. But if you look at every Company that people complain about, you'll see many drivers that's been with them for years. In order to have that you must be doing something right. 50% of the battle is Attitude. Nothing comes out and get's you, you do have to go out and get it. It's all your self. |
Re: OTR Drivers deserve better PAY
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People whine and complain about not being paid for what they do but they really don't do anything about it. They just go to work and do what they are told to do. No one is holding a gun to your head saying you have to do all this work and not get paid for it, and if you don't you will never work again in this industry. So seriously, why are you complaining? |
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