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Originally Posted by driver67373
Not necessarily true. The trainer can drive first, than the student can drive while the trainer is in the right seat. As long as you aren't driving, you can be in the on duty, non driving line as long as you want. It's perfectly legal to violate the 14 as long as you're on line 4 and you take a 10 hour break before you start driving again.
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
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Originally Posted by kips41
Run 16 hours a day and have 8 for fuel, shower, eat and some time that both men can lay down with out the truck moving.
It's all about the type of trip and time management. Plus the trainee, some catch on real quick and others......you don't let them out of your sight for one second.
Then the trainer is violating his 14 hour rule, as all time spent supervising the trainee is ON DUTY (not driving), and 8 hours in the sleeper is 2 hours too few.
If the trainer is sleeping while the truck is moving, then he isn't training - he is teaming.
Nope, that still wouldn't work for the trainee, I agree it would with the trainer, but not the trainee. The trainee's 14 hour clock will start when the trainer starts driving. For them to run a 16 hour day with the trainer driving first, the trainee would be in violation of the 14 hour rule because he is still "driving" at the 15th and 16th hour. The only way that this could legally be done would be to run as a true "team".
The bottom line is that any company that allows, much less recommends, team training to go on has nothing on their mind, but revenue. The best interest of the trainee couldn't be farther from their mind. If they're pushing this sort of training my bet is that they'll be the same type of company to ask you to bend the logbook rules once you go solo. It's second rate all the way, no matter how you slice it.