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jonp 10-03-2009 02:27 PM

How much per hour?
 
After 4 months on this account I figure I'm making about $16.50/hr. How much are you guys and gals making?

Malaki86 10-03-2009 03:29 PM

24.5% of whatever the load pays.

jonp 10-04-2009 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 464310)
24.5% of whatever the load pays.

Ever stop and figure out what that comes up to on an hourly basis?

Malaki86 10-04-2009 02:17 AM

Nope - if I did, I'd probably want to put a gun in my mouth.

Scoe 10-04-2009 04:58 AM

Well, since everyone is paid differently at my employer and we are strictly prohibited from discussing each others wages, I can only speculate that one driver at my company with over 20 years of class A experience is making $20.64 and hour and $30.96 after 40 hours. That's just speculation though, and there's no way that I am that driver.

This driver usually averages about 50 hours a week too. All local work and home daily. But without a subpoena there is no way I could tell you who he is.

jonp 10-04-2009 02:10 PM

funny that with all of the drivers on this forum no-one has taken the time to figure out what they actually make per hour.

Snowman7 10-04-2009 02:14 PM

Jon they just dont want to look at it that way. They block it out.

That secret driver is doing pretty well Scoe.

We're all paid the same so its no secret.

57.75 cpm when driving, 22.85/hr when on duty not driving. My current run is about 45 hrs/week, 1390 miles, and grosses around $1300.

The longest run at my barn is around 60 hrs/week, 2780 miles, and grosses around $1900.

All our runs are night runs and home every day. M-F

But the bad part is I have to pay union dues so I know most of you wouldnt want it!:moon:

You know what really blows my mind? It's a very good job, a desireable job, and yet we still have miserable whiners who are never happy.:roll:

Mackman 10-04-2009 02:50 PM

18/hr OT after 40

Mackman 10-04-2009 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman7 (Post 464454)
Jon they just dont want to look at it that way. They block it out.

So ture when i ran dry bulk i was paid by the ton. Worked around 65hrs a week for 700 gross. When i quit they wanted to know why?? I told them i avg. around 10/hr. Guess what they said to me. You cant look at it that way. lol the hell i cant:p

CaliTrucker 10-04-2009 03:08 PM

$17.50/hr. OT after 8 hrs a day and 2x after 12

Mackman 10-04-2009 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by CaliTrucker (Post 464467)
$17.50/hr. OT after 8 hrs a day and 2x after 12

2x after 12 WTF i need to talk to mny boss.

belpre122 10-04-2009 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 464460)
18/hr OT after 40

I'm calling total BS on this one. This username has definitely been hijacked. I hope that the moderators look in to this soon. As we all know.........

.........that MACKPUPPY won't turn a wheel for anything but good old CPM!
More precisely 25CPM!!:clap:

It's a lifestyle!:rofl:

cdswans 10-04-2009 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Snowman7 (Post 464454)
Jon they just don't want to look at it that way. They block it out.

How true, how true.

At the risk of being called a hypocrite, all things considered, I can't complain. I truly enjoy what I do. That doesn't mean I think I'm being paid fairly or what my services are worth but only that my personal circumstances make my CPM situation more palatable. I have no regular home, no steady squeeze and a guaranteed comfortable retirement that I can neither touch nor screw up until I'm 60. (My father was a very smart ahole.) If I don't see 60, I have 7 siblings that will live that much better, so I'm out here running around where they can't find me. In all of my working life I have never enjoyed as much time off as I do now and I take it in places I never imagined I'd be. I lived in Maine for 46 years and don't need to get back every 2-3 weeks. So far this year, I've been back 5 or 6 times, 2-5 days at a time with 3 typical.

If I had home and family obligations like the American Dream anticipated, I certainly wouldn't and couldn't do it out here.

I generally don't cheat on my logs. The lone exception is some waiting time which, if viewed through different eyes, could be construed as working time but I log as "recreational" time because I don't want to consume my 70 unnecessarily and I usually spend it on personal pursuits, like this. Realistically, I make $16/hr for logged hours + decent benefits. As for my block out and denial, I'm away from home 168 hours a week, average $1000/week and therefor earn about $5.95 an hour.

As far as what I'm worth? I think I (we) should be compensated from the moment we get off "home-time" until the moment we get back on, including sleep (security) time, and our home-time should be based on similar guidelines to the other sectors under the umbrella of the DOT . . merchant marine, aviation and railroad. I actually figured out the dollar value and posted it in another thread. I'm not going to do it now but it worked out to be in the high 80's. I sincerely believe that the difference between what I make and what I should make could be substantially absorbed with minimal impact to consumers if my company was simply forced by economics to run my truck more efficiently.

Mr. Ford95 10-04-2009 10:00 PM

$17.50 per hour, no OT allowed currently. If you have OT coming your sent home early.

CaliTrucker 10-04-2009 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mackman (Post 464482)
2x after 12 WTF i need to talk to mny boss.

Problem is I haven't seen a 12 hour day in about 2 years...Hell I've only had 2 weeks so far this year at or above 40 hours:(:thumbsdown:

GMAN 10-05-2009 12:12 AM

It can take a little more effort to calculate your hourly pay when you work otr. You need to take off that time where you are waiting or taking a shower or going to the bathroom. And then there is the time you spend eating or playing video games. If you want to accurately calculate your pay by the hour then you should only include that time where you are actually working.

Malaki86 10-05-2009 12:46 AM

Do you calculate that based on your actual working hours + driving before or after making log adjustments?

jd112488 10-05-2009 01:27 AM

who care what you make or why do you care what i make. i love my job. i pay my bills and do what i want when i want. why not be happy instead of looking for that thing in life to make you miserable.

Fredog 10-05-2009 01:43 AM

doesnt matter how much you make per hour, per mile or percentage, what matters is what you put in the bank on payday

Snowman7 10-05-2009 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by cdswans (Post 464495)
How true, how true.

At the risk of being called a hypocrite, all things considered, I can't complain. I truly enjoy what I do. That doesn't mean I think I'm being paid fairly or what my services are worth but only that my personal circumstances make my CPM situation more palatable. I have no regular home, no steady squeeze and a guaranteed comfortable retirement that I can neither touch nor screw up until I'm 60. (My father was a very smart ahole.) If I don't see 60, I have 7 siblings that will live that much better, so I'm out here running around where they can't find me. In all of my working life I have never enjoyed as much time off as I do now and I take it in places I never imagined I'd be. I lived in Maine for 46 years and don't need to get back every 2-3 weeks. So far this year, I've been back 5 or 6 times, 2-5 days at a time with 3 typical.

If I had home and family obligations like the American Dream anticipated, I certainly wouldn't and couldn't do it out here.

I generally don't cheat on my logs. The lone exception is some waiting time which, if viewed through different eyes, could be construed as working time but I log as "recreational" time because I don't want to consume my 70 unnecessarily and I usually spend it on personal pursuits, like this. Realistically, I make $16/hr for logged hours + decent benefits. As for my block out and denial, I'm away from home 168 hours a week, average $1000/week and therefor earn about $5.95 an hour.

As far as what I'm worth? I think I (we) should be compensated from the moment we get off "home-time" until the moment we get back on, including sleep (security) time, and our home-time should be based on similar guidelines to the other sectors under the umbrella of the DOT . . merchant marine, aviation and railroad. I actually figured out the dollar value and posted it in another thread. I'm not going to do it now but it worked out to be in the high 80's. I sincerely believe that the difference between what I make and what I should make could be substantially absorbed with minimal impact to consumers if my company was simply forced by economics to run my truck more efficiently.

CD I agree completely with your take on things. You should be paid more, and I completely understand how you could enjoy your job. I like your comparison to other fields like merchant marine and railroad. Seems all three of these fields should be compensated more closely. They all require specialized training, carry great amounts of responsibility to the general public, and place alot of burden and stress on a family or individual with the constant time away from home.

DaveP 10-05-2009 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog (Post 464522)
doesnt matter how much you make per hour, per mile or percentage, what matters is what you put in the bank on payday

Exactly.

I agreed to work for a percentage...and that's what I'm paid.
Too many variables to even think about what it works out per hour...every load is different.

Snowman7 10-05-2009 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog (Post 464522)
doesnt matter how much you make per hour, per mile or percentage, what matters is what you put in the bank on payday

Whatever, if thats how you need to look at it. True to an extent but time is money. Time wasted is never recouped.

TimberWolf 10-05-2009 02:25 AM

We get paid by the load hauling fuel, so it varies I gave up on trying to figure it out as some days it is great and others not so much, As Fredog said it only matters what you put in the bank which always seems to keep the bills paid and the wife happy.
We pulled some ethanol runs out of Georgia this past month that paid $285 and took 11.5 hours to run.
We have one pump off run that can be done in 1.5 hours if all goes right and pays $58, another one takes 2 hours to do and only pays $42, so it all depends on the day and how smooth things are running at the rack, but overall it averages out to around $18 - $22 an hour. some weeks higher if business levels are strong.

Timberwolf

Double R 10-05-2009 11:08 AM

Average is $19.00/hr.

Have had weeks a low as $16.00/hr and as high as $27.00/hr.

How? Piece, stop, milage and hourly pay(delay time, some stops pay hourly plus stop, plus pieces)

Summertime and foodshow ship weeks are heavy and pay is high.

Jan-march is very slow.

And i log 100% legal(sp?)

And NO, I am not paid to sit in a hotel on my break on monday nights(but then again, neither is the business man in the next room)

Mackman 10-05-2009 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman7 (Post 464529)
Whatever, if thats how you need to look at it. True to an extent but time is money. Time wasted is never recouped.


I hear ya snowman

When i ran dry bulk getting paid by the ton i worked around 60hrs a week. I make just as much working around 45 at the job i have now. So why work that xtra 15hrs for the same pay at the end of the week??

TimberWolf 10-05-2009 12:19 PM

Hey double R, Yea I bet Food Show week is a major pain in the ass.
That is the one thing I can say about Sysco is that they spare no expense on their food shows. Here in Orlando I always stayed at the nicest hotels along with another 1000 of their best customers at their expense, and then they always throw a great reception the first night Big dollars spent every year in every city that Sysco has a house in, I am sure they make it back twice fold... I always did love food show week...

Timberwolf

Double R 10-05-2009 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by TimberWolf (Post 464574)
Hey double R, Yea I bet Food Show week is a major pain in the ass.
That is the one thing I can say about Sysco is that they spare no expense on their food shows. Here in Orlando I always stayed at the nicest hotels along with another 1000 of their best customers at their expense, and then they always throw a great reception the first night Big dollars spent every year in every city that Sysco has a house in, I am sure they make it back twice fold... I always did love food show week...

Timberwolf

It's a PIA. I am so glad that I run an overnight run on monday. My customers do not know what a foodshow is(chain account). That is two days(monday and tuesday) that I do not have to deal with the BS.:D

VPIDarkAngel 10-05-2009 02:13 PM

Even though I don't get paid by the hour, I average $16-19 per hour, usually working 50-60 hours weekly, gone Monday morning through Saturday night... for a mega-carrier.

GMAN 10-05-2009 04:21 PM

For those who are so concerned about being paid for every second of their time during the day, whether working or not, I think it would be quite enlightening to follow some of you around for a day and see how productive you really are. You are also a slave to the clock. Of course, it may not matter if you are not working each second that you are being paid.

I agree with Fredog. The only thing that really matters is what you put in the bank at the end of the week. It doesn't matter how you are paid as long as you enjoy what you do and you earn a decent paycheck at the end of the week. The only thing that should be of concern is whether you can pay the bills and enjoy life. It seems to me that some of you who tell us that you are making such big money working by the hour are not very happy. You want to convince the rest of us that you are making so much money but you sound miserable. Thanks, but no thanks.

jonp 10-05-2009 11:17 PM

I was just curious as to what people were making per hour at different companies for driving a truck. Lines 3 and 4. I go on line 4 when I arrive at the yard and do not come off 3/4 until I come back and go home. I find it odd that people are arguing that they don't care what they make. If you are comparing jobs between carriers it would seem to me to be a pretty basic thing to want to know. One carrier says .50/mile and you get 1,000 miles a week and another says .35 and you get 2,500 per week. Thats one way in otr. But if your home about every night like I am you can't look at miles because that dosnt tell you anything.

Malaki86 10-06-2009 12:12 AM

You can't do OTR as an hourly job - it just simply doesn't work like that. I get paid percentage of the load. I average $150-200 per day with an average of 350-450 miles per day. I'm home every Friday and leave Sunday or Monday, depending on the outgoing freight. There's also been days when I cleared $500 for a short haul, then turned around and made $100 for a long haul. So, hourly would be almost impossible to figure out.

Snowman7 10-06-2009 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 464603)
For those who are so concerned about being paid for every second of their time during the day, whether working or not, I think it would be quite enlightening to follow some of you around for a day and see how productive you really are. You'd kill to have me as an employee. You wont find a more honest, reliable worker. But I dont think we could get along and I'd quit on you.

You are also a slave to the clock. Of course, it may not matter if you are not working each second that you are being paid. Slave is a strong word but I'm much less a slave to my job then the guy with a truck payment.

I agree with Fredog. The only thing that really matters is what you put in the bank at the end of the week. Um sure, If you dont have a life outside the truck.

It doesn't matter how you are paid as long as you enjoy what you do and you earn a decent paycheck at the end of the week. The only thing that should be of concern is whether you can pay the bills and enjoy life. Hey we agree!

It seems to me that some of you who tell us that you are making such big money working by the hour are not very happy. You want to convince the rest of us that you are making so much money but you sound miserable. Thanks, but no thanks. You're trying way too hard, me thinks GMAN is jealous. ;)

LOL your right I am miserable, until I read your load of crap and I cant stop laughing! :moon:

dobry4u 10-06-2009 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Snowman7 (Post 464628)
LOL your right I am miserable, until I read your load of crap and I cant stop laughing! :moon:

:thumbsup: pretty darn funny, ain't it! :rofl:

cdswans 10-06-2009 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 464502)
It can take a little more effort to calculate your hourly pay when you work otr. You need to take off that time where you are waiting or taking a shower or going to the bathroom. And then there is the time you spend eating or playing video games. If you want to accurately calculate your pay by the hour then you should only include that time where you are actually working.

So, in Gman's world, he says "Heh, screw truckin'. I'm gonna follow all that good advice I've been reading here at Confused and Delusional and go sling slurpees at the 7-11." He dons his envelope hat and reports for duty and works his appointed shifts. At the end of the week, the boss hands him a check and that sends Gmans gears to whirring.

"Hey boss!" he hollers. "You got this all wrong! I've been keeping track of all the time I was actually waiting on customers and it only amounts to about half the time you're paying me for. Looks like I owe you some money!"

Reeling on his heels, the boss asks "Well, what about receiving the inventory and stocking the shelves?"

"On the house! I can't sell from an empty shelf, can I? If the register ain't ringin', nobody's making any money, right?

The boss gives Gman a quizzical look and asks "Gman, are you in anyway familiar with labor law?"

Gman replies "Heck no! Labor law, Schmabor law! It just wouldn't be right to spend all this time hanging out here in your store and expect to get paid for it. Heck, to earn this kind of money, I'm gonna have to put in another 30 hours, or so. That be OK with you, boss?"

"Do you have any lawyers in the family?" the boss asks.

"Nah! I'm from a family of truckers. Got it in my blood! Man, do I miss that lifestyle!"

"You didn't bump your head while you were sweeping out the storage trailer, did you, son?" inquired the flummoxed boss.

"No sir, boss and thanks for asking. No charge for that, either. It needed to be done and if not me, then who? Just happy to be of service, sir!"

"Congratulations, my boy! I'm promoting you to Assistant Manager!" beamed the boss. "Any chance you've got someone else at home looking for a new lifestyle?"

Mackman 10-06-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by cdswans (Post 464639)
So, in Gman's world, he says "Heh, screw truckin'. I'm gonna follow all that good advice I've been reading here at Confused and Delusional and go sling slurpees at the 7-11." He dons his envelope hat and reports for duty and works his appointed shifts. At the end of the week, the boss hands him a check and that sends Gmans gears to whirring.

"Hey boss!" he hollers. "You got this all wrong! I've been keeping track of all the time I was actually waiting on customers and it only amounts to about half the time you're paying me for. Looks like I owe you some money!"

Reeling on his heels, the boss asks "Well, what about receiving the inventory and stocking the shelves?"

"On the house! I can't sell from an empty shelf, can I? If the register ain't ringin', nobody's making any money, right?

The boss gives Gman a quizzical look and asks "Gman, are you in anyway familiar with labor law?"

Gman replies "Heck no! Labor law, Schmabor law! It just wouldn't be right to spend all this time hanging out here in your store and expect to get paid for it. Heck, to earn this kind of money, I'm gonna have to put in another 30 hours, or so. That be OK with you, boss?"

"Do you have any lawyers in the family?" the boss asks.

"Nah! I'm from a family of truckers. Got it in my blood! Man, do I miss that lifestyle!"

"You didn't bump your head while you were sweeping out the storage trailer, did you, son?" inquired the flummoxed boss.

"No sir, boss and thanks for asking. No charge for that, either. It needed to be done and if not me, then who? Just happy to be of service, sir!"

"Congratulations, my boy! I'm promoting you to Assistant Manager!" beamed the boss. "Any chance you've got someone else at home looking for a new lifestyle?"


Now thats funny lol:lol2::lol2:

TimberWolf 10-06-2009 11:53 AM

I have to agree with Gman, The bottom line for me is what goes in the bank account. Hours are secondary in my mind, however I came from a world where 80 hour weeks were the norm so working a 50 to 60 hour week is a cake walk for me.

Wow I agree with GMan, that is kind of like agreeing with Kevin...

None the less, Snowman I have an awesome life outside of my job, as I look at my job as just that a JOB (no big deal) it pays the bills plus....While at work I give 100%, when that tractor shuts off I am finished and I move on to a better world, my home & family... if I clear $500 a week I am very happy everything above that is bonus money for the future. The more hours I work the more money I make, For a 50 hour week I will easily clear $650 to $700+. Most of my days are 9 to 11 hours, 5 days a week with Sunday & Monday off. I have the mind set to work easy not hard. I make sure to enjoy what time I have at home and will always opt for an extra day off if needed as it can all be taken in the blink of an eye.

I know it is different in your world at UPS Freight as you guys get a range of both mileage and hourly pay, the dock/city drivers in Orlando are still hurting bigtime they are lucky if they get a 30/35 hour week, freight levels are still very low here. When it is working properly and you have gained senority your system is the best. It is getting to that stage that is the hard part.

The otr guys have it even worse sitting in a truck stop waiting for a load but not getting paid, one more reason not to add up the hours verus your paycheck amount.

I even enjoyed getting paid a percentage for my years at CCC, as some days I could be done in 8 hours and make $125 while other days I worked 12 hours for $160
It is what it is
all of it is secondary to my life at home.

Timberwolf

freebirdrfd 10-06-2009 01:47 PM

If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute. if you are sitting in a truck stop you are not home, you are working. If you are sitting at a loading dock or in traffic, or at a D.O.T. check, or broken down on the side of the road you are working. If you miss somebodys birthday, aniversary, or if you miss a holiday or graduation it's probably because you are working. As far as i'm concerned if you are responsable for that truck in any way you are working and should be getting paid. just my 2 cents.

Fredog 10-06-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by freebirdrfd (Post 464662)
If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute. if you are sitting in a truck stop you are not home, you are working. If you are sitting at a loading dock or in traffic, or at a D.O.T. check, or broken down on the side of the road you are working. If you miss somebodys birthday, aniversary, or if you miss a holiday or graduation it's probably because you are working. As far as i'm concerned if you are responsable for that truck in any way you are working and should be getting paid. just my 2 cents.

so you get paid to go back and forth to work and for breaks and lunch? SWEET

freebirdrfd 10-06-2009 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Fredog (Post 464664)
so you get paid to go back and forth to work and for breaks and lunch? SWEET

Back and forth to work i am not responsible for the truck. I get paid for breaks and lunch. That's what getting paid by the hour is all about. Why work if your not getting paid?????? :confused:

Fredog 10-06-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by freebirdrfd (Post 464666)
Back and forth to work i am not responsible for the truck. I get paid for breaks and lunch. That's what getting paid by the hour is all about. Why work if your not getting paid?????? :confused:


this is what you said
If i am away from my home, i should (and do) get paid for every minute.

I get for all the time I am in the truck, you can break it down anyway you like. hourly, mileage, percentage, whatever..


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