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GMAN 09-14-2009 12:16 AM

Obama Declares War On China
 
I just received a call from a friend of mine and he told me that Obama is planning on putting a high tariff on Chinese made tires to make them more competitive with U.S. tire companies. Beijing considers it a trade war. This will double the price many owner operators pay for their tires. Obama did this after China loaned him money to bail out the banks and investment companies. I wonder if China will start to raise prices on products they export to the U.S. and put tariffs on products we export to them, if we have anything left to export? This guy is a real genius. :roll:

Windwalker 09-14-2009 01:14 AM

He's doing everything RIGHT according to "LAWYER'S LOGIC". Seems like, just about everyone in that profession has a way of putting the cart before the horse. Not much doubt that it will start a tariff war... Again. But, we also need to get back into producing our own goods. Tariffs are about the only way to get that started. Need to do that with Mexico too.

From what I've been reading, China does not import much from us. Neither does Mexico. Canada seems to have a pretty even trade going both ways, except for oil.

The only way we're going to get Americans back to work is to start producing what we consume, rather than importing it. But, he's also going to have to start listening to the "TEA PARTY DEMONSTRATORS" about his spending habits. He's still acting like the American Taxpayer is a bottomless pit of resources and funds.

GMAN 09-14-2009 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Windwalker (Post 462238)
He's doing everything RIGHT according to "LAWYER'S LOGIC". Seems like, just about everyone in that profession has a way of putting the cart before the horse. Not much doubt that it will start a tariff war... Again. But, we also need to get back into producing our own goods. Tariffs are about the only way to get that started. Need to do that with Mexico too.

I thought for some time we should scrap NAFTA. The entire agreement is one sided against the U.S. Many businesses have moved to Mexico for the cheaper labor, lax environmental laws and lower taxes. The problem with putting the tariffs on is that we are not in the position to produce many of those products in this country.

From what I've been reading, China does not import much from us. Neither does Mexico. Canada seems to have a pretty even trade going both ways, except for oil.

Mexico imports billions of U.S. dollars sent from the U.S. by illegals. :mad: You are correct about China not importing much from the U.S. They sell we buy. Most everything we purchase in China was once made here.

The only way we're going to get Americans back to work is to start producing what we consume, rather than importing it. But, he's also going to have to start listening to the "TEA PARTY DEMONSTRATORS" about his spending habits. He's still acting like the American Taxpayer is a bottomless pit of resources and funds.

Companies are not going to move operations back to the U.S. until he changes his policies about socialism and taxes. We need to get rid of this guy and his comrades. Have a recall or impeach them. He can't seem to connect the dots. He doesn't seem to care if people don't like his policies or not. He has decided what he wants to do and he will do it unless the people stop him.

Part Time Dweller 09-14-2009 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GMAN (Post 462214)
This will double the price many owner operators pay for their tires.

Hold on there Chicken Little...............:lol:

1st, how does a 35% increase double the price?

2cnd, unless the O/O's run around in cars or light trucks, I don't think they have to worry.

3rd, any O/O that buys Chinese tires for his rig ain't that bright, and probably won't be around much longer anyways, as if all they can afford is cheap junk tires.

geeshock 09-14-2009 03:51 AM

although I tend to agree he is going after his own agenda, so did another recent president in office and he wasn't impeached. Not trying to start a flame war but still.

allan5oh 09-14-2009 05:10 AM

I believe there already is an export tariff on all Chinese made goods.

GMAN 09-14-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller (Post 462267)
Hold on there Chicken Little...............:lol:

1st, how does a 35% increase double the price?

2cnd, unless the O/O's run around in cars or light trucks, I don't think they have to worry.

3rd, any O/O that buys Chinese tires for his rig ain't that bright, and probably won't be around much longer anyways, as if all they can afford is cheap junk tires.


I have been running some of the Chinese tires on my step deck and they are cheaper and have been holding up better than the tires I have been buying that were made in the U.S. Besides, some of the tires we buy are owned by the French and Japanese. Bridgestone is not a U.S. company but their tires are about double what I can buy one of the Chinese tires for and that is on national account. I have also had a problem with one of the Chinese tires and they stood behind the warranty. I have yet to have a U.S. tire company to stand behind a warranty other than Dunlop. I never thought that I would buy non American tires, but I will go where I can get the most value for my money. When U.S. tire manufacturers start standing behind their products and lower prices then I may switch back. However, I will NEVER buy another Goodyear or Kelly tire. Neither will stand behind their products. I can buy some of the Chinese tires for $189 for my step deck. If I buy Bridgestone on national account it costs me about $330. The Chinese tires will wear as well or better than the Bridgestones. I have also had good luck from Yokohama and can get those at a discount. For the last several years I have been experimenting with a number of different brands. So far the Double Coins have performed the best for the money. They recently came out with some that will work on my step deck. They are a little more money but I may try them to see how they wear. I believe in getting value for my money. Right now it isn't with the major U.S. tire companies. I am not even sure that Goodyear and Firestone are owned by the U.S. any more. If they want my business then they will need to build a better product at a competitive price. A good businessman will get the most value for his money. And I have been in business for almost 40 years. I must be doing something right.

TimberWolf 09-14-2009 04:10 PM

O GEE Wilikers, The sky is falling, the sky is falling,

Be careful Henny Penny, Obama is after you're barn yard as well, I hear he wants to raise the egg laying tax to .10 for each squat....
Then when everyone who so blindly voted him into office is not looking he is going to take out his super duper ray gun and blast us all with slime......
OH NO MR Bill save us!!!!

Hum de dum it was all just fine until the AMERICAN PEOPLE voted in Obama, How could they do such an un american thing as to use the democratic system our forefathers put in place, shame on them...


Still to funny...

Timberwolf

Jackrabbit379 09-14-2009 04:19 PM

Obama is gonna declare war on China because of their tires? :eek2:
President Bush went after the terrorists after 9/11 and Obama is going after China because of tires. Wow. I'd hate to see what would happen to China if they did something to the US.

GMAN 09-14-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 462313)
Obama is gonna declare war on China because of their tires? :eek2:
President Bush went after the terrorists after 9/11 and Obama is going after China because of tires. Wow. I'd hate to see what would happen to China if they did something to the US.


My friend who read this to me said that the Chinese are the ones who said that Obama had declared war on them. They were talking about a trade war, not a fighting war, at least not yet. I think Obama just wants an excuse to put another tax on something.


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