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Timothy J. Begle 04-11-2009 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Jumbo (Post 445823)
WTF is going on?

People like you think history of the world started when you were born.


This has been going on since man showed up on earth.
In many countries this kind of thing is a daily occurrence.


Bad men will act like bad men no matter what kind of spin we put on it, or who we blame it on.

Slimland 04-11-2009 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by Timothy J. Begle (Post 446139)
People like you think history of the world started when you were born.


This has been going on since man showed up on earth.
In many countries this kind of thing is a daily occurrence.


Bad men will act like bad men no matter what kind of spin we put on it, or who we blame it on.


Wow you got all that from one question? You honestly think that is what He is thinking, and that he doesn't know that has been going on since man showed up on earth?

Sorry, just having one of those days! But you assumed that People like him think that the history of the world started when they where born. I don't think that is the case!!
But since we are in a "let me tell you what you think mode" maybe it is just because it is hard to fathom someone just being a saddistic as the proposed subjects at hand.. You hear of it almost everyday, but sometimes it just hits close to home, and you can do nothing but think about it.. Usual response is Wow, how come..

Do I have the answer? No I just have a opinion!

I mean no disrespect, just thought your answer was a little harsh and assuming? you said it as fact and not opinion!

Slimland

matcat 04-11-2009 03:16 AM

History does tend to repeat itself. Mankind is very very sadistic by nature, sorry but it is true. Throughout most of history brutality has been the norm. Only recently has mankind really tamed itself. In our modern society brutality has been weeded out, but it is still a part of human nature.

Not that I condone these actions, but most people in today's society cannot fathom the things people sometimes do, but go back to the beginning of this county, look at the salem witch trials, hangings, etc. Look at how the romans used to be, heck even read the bible!

When the pressures of life get to be too much a lot of people revert to more animal instinct type behavior, they get into a survive or die type mindset. When you dig deep enough into that mindset, there are no rules. People will go and kill a bunch of other people, then when they realize they went too far, they cannot handle their own conscious or are too coward to face the consequence and kill themselves.

Blacksheep 04-11-2009 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Syncrosonix (Post 446075)

speaking of the titanic, i dropped a titanic turd earlier today. it's stuck at the hole. each time i flush, it doesn't budge.


TMI Driver.

got mud? 04-11-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by marcel27208 (Post 446119)
If there was "a time" when u "were into jesus", then there never was a time when you were into jesus. Rapid decline in church attendance? going to church doesnt save you, A TRUE belief in the god who gave his son jesus christ to die for your sins is what saves you. Maybe the church you went to didnt really give you the message.....just find a church you like and can believe in......if you went to church and didnt like it, you only have urself and others to blame because WE are the church.

god didn't give me his son. he let him play with a bunch of bad guys who took his son. actually as of lately god hasn't been speaking to us much? went from burning bushes and parted seas to what? not even a post card ...?

matcat 04-11-2009 11:55 AM

Normally I don't like to participate in religious debates, it always fosters arguments, and people believe in what they believe. But I feel an urge to dive into this one.

First I must state my personal beliefs before saying what I am going to say. I do believe in God, but I do not live according to christian standards. There was a time I considered myself a strong Christian, however there are too many things in life I enjoy that go against the Christian moral values. As far as my knowledge of the bible goes, I was a Christian Drug/Alcohol/Relationship Counselor for nearly 5 years, and during that 5 years I lived and worked in a mission, so I have studied the bible extensively.

Sync, sorry but if all you where doing was reading revelations then you weren't reading the proper parts of that book! To say Christianity is on a downward spiral in the country, in part yes, but not really. This country was founded on Christianity, and the majority of the population do consider themselves Christians, though I doubt very much that the majority of them really are, but that is a different topic.

Got Mud, if you want to hear God talking to you, you need to know where to listen. He doesn't broadcast through bushes any more, he talks to everyone in different ways. It may be the words spoken by someone, or by a bird flying through the air that sparks an idea in your head. Since Jesus died and rose again, it opened the door for the Spirit to live inside of us and talk to us directly. To dig any deeper into this would be a long theological lecture.

Also in the United States you will not see much of anything like the parting of the sea, mainly because of the lack of faith. Most miracles that one reads about in the bible such as people being healed instantly, happen more so in third world countries where there is no modern medicine, why? Because of the lack of modern medicine they MUST rely on faith for healing. In America we are used to modern medicine, if something happens to us we take a 15 min drive to a hospital, we have faith in the doctor, not in Jesus for our healing.

As far as the end of the world goes, the bible clearly states that no one will know the exact time and date when He will come back, only we will know it is soon by the signs of the times, but the actual end will come suddenly and swiftly when it is not expected! Sorry but it isn't going to happen in 2012, or 2019 which are the two main prophesied dates.

However I do believe we are in the 'end times'. What does that mean? Well it means it will occur VERY soon. But biblicaly very soon could be many years. All of the end time prophesies have been fullfilled or are occurring as we speak.

terrylamar 04-11-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Phantom433a (Post 446060)
The Aztec calender ends and we celebrate the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic. Sync don't you start preaching that doom and gloom....I wanna have a "Titanic Sinking" party:tears:

There is no "Aztec" calendar. I hope you mean the Mayan Calendar!

Phantom433a 04-11-2009 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by terrylamar (Post 446192)
There is no "Aztec" calendar. I hope you mean the Mayan Calendar!

Yes the Mayan

Got Mud if you want to hear God.....step out into the woods and listen....the wind through the trees, the water cascading over the rocks.

Matcat faith in a doctor? No, faith in the knowledge God gave him and that he is using it properly. Yes, history repeats itself when people fail to learn from past events.....they will repeat them.

Jumbo 04-11-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Timothy J. Begle (Post 446139)
People like you think history of the world started when you were born.


This has been going on since man showed up on earth.
In many countries this kind of thing is a daily occurrence.


Bad men will act like bad men no matter what kind of spin we put on it, or who we blame it on.

People like me? I would love to know what that means. I am not so dumb to not realize that there have been *****holes since the beginning of time. When I was younger if you were bad you got punished. My biggest influence growing up was knowing the if I F***ed that there were going to be repercussions from my parents. Usually a wooden spoon across the *****, and if my mom broke her spoon you were really in trouble!!! But now you cant discipline your own kids. Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Syncrosonix 04-11-2009 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by golfhobo (Post 446082)
What if the Aztecs just ran out of ROCKS??? :hellno::lol:

that's what i'm sayin'. get ready for all the mass suicides, murders, and so on when that date in time comes close.

marcel: feel free to believe in what you believe. i have a right, as an american, to have my lack of faith. perhaps if this was during the early settlement days, or mid-evil, i'd be burned at the stake. you'd like that a lot, wouldn't you? fortunately we don't live in that period of time. if i lived in the middle east, my head would be cut off just because i'm an american who does not accept the stone age idiocy that is played out over there.

slim: there is nothing. go ahead and give yourself that false hope that there is something greater when you die. if it makes you feel better, so be it. i'll continue my secular ways. on my door at my house, i have a laminated piece of paper that reads, "before you step into this house. understand this: religion and politics are NOT to be spoken of. if you cannot accept it, turn away now. you have been given notice."

all of the popular religions are full of hypocrisy. why in the EFF can somebody murder in the name of their so-called god? when they go to prison, they repent, and suddenly, it all goes away like nothing ever happened. i call BS on that. they'll always be a murderer in my eyes. god is a fickle term. the catholic church seems to have absolutely no problem with their pedophile priests. all they've done is swept it under the rug in hopes that i'll go away and be forgotten in history. i wouldn't be surprised if the late pope john paul II dabbled with little boys. he didn't do a single thing about it. yeah, I JUST WENT THERE. i believe all pedophiles need to be strung up and beaten to death. they're all sub-human pieces of crap.

the "end of times" will be when the world becomes secular. that's when the massive insanity in the world can finally rest. a secular world is a sane one.

just for kicks: 666, HAIL SATAN!

besides, lucifer wanted to create a perfect world. jesus kicked him and lucifers' followers out, and created an imperfect world full of strife, hunger, famine, and all kinds of other garbage. who is the one that is the jackass? i don't think it's lou.


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