Fox news racist?
 

I don't see anything racist about it and I think Fox is blowing this out of proportion but see for yourself!

YouTube - Fox News Blames Obama For Jay-Z and Young Jeezy Lyrics

Fox is pointing out that rappers like JayZ and Young Jeezy are racist. They certainly never blamed Obama, like the idiot doing commentary about the video claims.

Fox news blamed Obama for not denouncing Jay Z/Jeezy, the sarcasm of the commentator of the video pretty much sums up how stupid the whole thing is.

You are both right. Fox news was pointing a light at the rappers for their highly racist song and Obama for not speaking out against it since he was the one who has been promising a new era across the board for America.

Maybe someone can explain to me how it is when someone who is white (or any other skin color except black) says the "N" word they are being racist but when a black says it they aren't, or how if a black calls a white person a honkey, cracker, etc they are not being racist.

While you are at it would someone explain to me what they term "reverse racism" is suppose to mean. Yes I know the definition but what is it really suppose to mean. IMHO opinion terms like this only further to increase the divide among people of various skin color as well as letting BS such as the crud coming from the mouth of these rappers and people like Al Sharpten, etc.

Sure the want to spout how there is a need for true equality and how they are fighting everyday for it, but lets get real. They are only making things worse and until the day comes where negative terms used to describe someone because of their skin color or religion are no longer used and only terms to describe a person is used there never will be any real equality.

Hell I'm mixed black and white and I don't even know the answer to that! I really don't!

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Racism.

I agree..
Fox aint racist. Those 2 wrapper pinheads are racist.

Why are they considered RACIST? They use the "N" word, but they are singing to the choir. No racism there.

They said good riddance to Bush. So did I!

They showed some overexhuberant PRIDE in the fact that their president is Black. He IS!

I wouldn't say that the FoxNews report was racist, but it WAS condescending. They thought it was newsworthy to point out that a select few of Obama's race went a bit overboard in their celebration, and wanted to point out the fact that this somehow disparaged ALL members of that race (as well as our president) and that somehow this reflected badly on Obama and his accomplishment of becoming president.

What I got from this "report" (and I use the term loosely,) is that they are just LOOKING for a reason to show that electing a black president will give minorities a reason to "show their true colors" as opposed to elevating them to a position of pride and equality.

Rather than focus on the majority of responses by minorities to this accomplishment, they chose to sensationalize an ISOLATED incident, and "report" it with an "I TOLD you so" slant! And in that regard, it IS being RACIST. But then, who expected less from FOX??

Jay-Z and Young Jeezy are exactly why I prefer to be living in small towns where it's nice and quiet.

I wouldn't call these guys rappers, they're just phoney puppets to the record companies that are over-hyped, over-priced, and use the same, tired lyrical stylings that are influenced by synthesizers.

You want real hip-hop?

Try "Jurassic 5", "Deltron 3030", and any group prior to 1995.

As far as Obama winning, I'm an Asian who's commonly mistaken for being black and I voted for McCain, but we'll all just have to deal with this outcome our own way.

hey small world..me too:thumbsup:

I think the term racist may be a little strong.........would a white guy be considered racist if he doesnt like his daughter dating/marrying a person of another race? i dont even know the answer to that myself........

But the guy who live is central montana who is part of the KKK..yeah i would consider that guy a racist.

The guy on the CB who uses the N word but then will talk to you while you stand in line at pilot or in the dock at a shipper. I dont consider that guy a racist. So i wouldnt consider these guys racist for using the N word.

Racism is racism, no matter who you are saying the racist remarks to. Using your "logic", the KKK is not racist when they spout their hate to members of their own race.

Good point, Rev. But, blacks using the "N" word amongst themselves is hardly racist. I watched the video several times, I don't remember hearing ANY hatred towards WHITES in it. Perhaps, there was an implied racism towards whites in what they said about Bush, but I don't think so. ALL of "Democrat America" was glad to wave goodbye to Bush! You didn't hear these words when Clinton had to leave office. Well, not from anyone but REPUBLICANS! :lol:

If I'm right, and there was no racism in the rapper's words, then FoxNews was just looking for an EXAMPLE of "militancy" in the surge of African-American pride at having one of their own elected to be POTUS. Another example of "gotcha" on their part. And THAT kind of "reporting" smacks of racism to me.

Just another example of how "out of touch" FoxNews and (some) Republicans are with the NON-racist sentiment of America. Remember.... he could NOT have been elected without MILLIONS of votes from white Americans!

There once was a very popular saying that...."every day more of YOU die, and more of US are born." I believe that day has finally arrived, and I thank GOD for it!

[the collective YOU.]

MANY worried that if Obama lost there would be riots. I believe that is probably true. But, in the aftermath of his election, there has been a certain "calm" in the minority enclaves of society. This was just ONE small aberration in that calm. I believe the minorities have shown themselves in a BETTER light than FoxNews and a few others. Conversely, I am amazed there wasn't a bigger outcry from the Aryan Nation and its followers.

Perhaps, more of THEM have "died off," too! Good riddance!

Pride about your race is still racism. If whites were to hoot and holler about having a white man elected President, and they were to say something along the lines of "My President is mother****** WHITE", people would be up in arms about such a racist comment. Obama being elected was heralded as the event which overthrew racial barriers. People such as the JayZ and Young Jeezy are trying to build those racial barriers back up. THAT, is racist.

True......but i dont think they are trying to build racial barriers back up......

For me, it's a very simple solution. If I don't like what I hear, there is an "on/off" knob. Of course, it's generally on "OFF" position. I don't have to listen to something that I feel has racism content.

If you listen to the song closely those two are also indicating that things were bad before now because the previous presidents were white.

Anymore racism is not only about negativity towards a group because of ethnic origins or skin color, but it is also about any group trying to set themselves above others for the same reasons even if their actions and rhetoric is not out right negative to others.

This is why I hate mainstream rap! It's amazing how these non talented so called rappers are super stars but the real talented rappers are frowned upon and not given stardom. Oh wait the record labels are ran by white recored executives who know sex, drugs, women, violence, and pimping sells. Anyway I personally can't stand the song cause it's makes blacks look bad and I'm sure Marcel will agree with me on that one!

Am I happy to have Obama as a "black" President...Yeah but I just don't like his political views and way of thinking. It seems like people forget he is also half white as well!

I tell people all the time even though I appear black I'm also white and I don't claim either race unless it's on some official document then I put black cause if I put white, the people would wonder about that. lol Seriously though I do think racism is somewhat dying out but stereotyping is picking up big time! People stereotype me all the time and they tell me I need to act more black and to stop acting white! First of all what is acting black? Is acting black listening to rap, dressing like a thug with my pants off my ass? I ignore them or tell them to kiss my ass! That is one of the things I can't stand just because I don't fit the stereotype of the black race I'm not considered black even though I am black. I never thought you had to act a certain way to be black. I thought being black was about taking pride in who you are and doing anything your heart and dream desires in life.

yes this is true.....the song does just make all blacks look bad..... just like some1 just said if it was a person of another race singing something about a white president we'd be in an uproar.

Here is something I don't get though. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson we're all over Don Imus when he called the Rutger girls nappy headed hoes and jiggaboes right. But why doesn't Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson get on these rappers for making blacks looks bad? I heard all they wanted to do with rap is ban the n word. That was all they requested and as you can see they still use it! But then again whenever Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson get involved things get ugly and worse than what it was originally.

actually i dont know about jesse jackson but al sharpton did make a reference to this song, but it was very low key..... those 2 seem to fight for blacks rights, when they claim to fight for equal rights.

I heard Russell Simmons (I think that's right,) on Larry King or something the other night. It's a culture thing, and I have no real problem with it. I don't like ANY rap. I don't call it music, songs, or anything of the type. It's NOT.... it's RAP!

But, I understand the context of the "rap" under discussion here. I barely had a twinge of distaste when I heard it. It was to be expected. I don't think they are trying to rebuild barriers. I didn't think what they said was racist.

They were expressing the reality that the policies that affect their lives have always been set by a white man and mostly a white administration. I hope they are not expecting too much CHANGE in that area, because I believe Obama will govern fairly and equally.... not playing favorites or making restitution.

But, I STILL believe it was more an expression of PRIDE in their race, and the achievement of the impossible dream. Contrary to what the Rev said, I don't believe it was pride in the context of "superiority" over another race. It is the pride that leads to empowerment.

Let's face reality. MANY Americans have shown (on this board as well,) their belief that Blacks have had an entitlement culture, based on the idea that they were VICTIMS. What better way to HELP them lift themselves out of this mindset, than to empower them to BELIEVE that they are and can be equal participants and citizens in this great country?

Many will CLAIM that they have believed so all along. But that is because they never walked a mile in a Black person's shoes.

I hope the admins will allow this post to remain, and the discussion as a whole. I believe it is very civil so far, and to cut it off would give credence to the new Attorney General's assessment that, in matters of race, we are a country of cowards. I personally disagree.

I believe we ARE beyond that. I believe this election proved it. But, there is no doubt that this election will spark a national discussion on the issue. And I welcome that discussion.

Did I think that the "rap" under discussion was in bad taste? Yes. (So were the WWII posters that disparaged the Japanese and called them "Nips.") I just didn't see a racial overtone in them.

I DID, however, see a racial overtone in the FoxNews "report" about them. They were just WAITING for such an example to PROVE what they believed about "those people" and how they would react to having one of their own elected as POTUS.

To their credit, up until that report, I thought FoxNews handled the situation quite professionally. Much more so than MSNBC handled the election and the farewell to President Bush.

Surely SOME of you didn't SEE it the way I did. That's fine. This is just MHO!!

Hobo

That is the point many have been trying to make. Until people stop taking pride in and/or demonstrating hatred for any race then planetary racism will always exist in some form.

The only race people need to be concerned with is the human race.

Yes it was a historical moment for America when even a 1/2 black person was elected POTUS just like it will be one with we elect our first female POTUS, but IMHO it is long past time for people to be more concerned about electing the right person to the job instead of focusing on skin color and/or gender.

When the day comes a person is only defined by his/her actions will be the day I will celebrate.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson don't seem to want to get involved unless there are camera's around and money on the table. Both have made a career of shaking down companies who would rather pay them off rather than have them organize a bunch of protesters picketing their business accusing them of some perceived racial injustice.

Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson would rather have a photo op then tackle a real issue. Crime in the hood? They cant be bothered with that. Old white man says "nappy headed hoes" and they want him fired. They dont want racial equality. They would be out of a job and they cant have that.

And Hobo, You dont like rap music. You LOVE it! I heard you singing "Rapper Delight" You a real OG dawg.

The main thing these guys want is money. They want any excuse at all to extort money out of a company or individual. These rappers say much worse about blacks and they are given a pass. A white guy says the something and he is crucified. I saw some of those basketball players interviewed and they didn't think much about it until Al Sharpton and his group got involved. One guy who deserves a lot of respect but gets a lot of flack from the black community is Bill Cosby. He tells it like it is and is more interested in doing good and changing attitudes than standing in front of a camera or shaking down people.

If you really want to change attitudes then take skin color out of the equation. If your skin color is black you are not an African-American unless you were born in Africa and became an American citizen. If you were born in America then you are an American PERIOD. Adding hyphens and names only continues to divide us as a people and country. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others use that to further their personal agenda's. They perpetuate the entitlement mentality in the black community and isolate those from the white community. We are all different. It is character that determines who we are, not our skin color. It is a shame that so many will buy in the the Sharpton/Jackson agenda. It would be much better if they bought into the Bill Cosby agenda of personal responsibility and self reliance.

There will be division because people see themselves as separate. When all recially-oriented organizations come together (for instance, why does a town need the "Chamber of Commerce" AND the "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce"), to serve the common purpose, maybe there will be a chance. Although it would be discrimination for the "Chamber of Commerce" to only employ "whites", I highly doubt there is a white person employed at the "Hispanic Chamber of Commerce". Pretty soon, there will have been enough mixing of races that we might all finally get along. However, there will always be plenty of stupid people so there will always be tons of fear and prejudice.

Well you have the Black Caucus in congress, Black Entertainment Network, Miss Black America and a number of other racist organizations that if you substituted the word black with white would have a public outcry. We will never totally eliminate racism in the world. It has been with us about ever since the beginning of time. As long as there are organizations that promote racism such as those listed we will continue to divide this country. Divide and conquer. It is much easier to control people who are divided. It is much different to attempt to divide those with a common purpose. These organizations such as the Black Caucus and Black Chamber of Commerce are supported by white dollars such as the Chamber of Commerce. We don't need more than one organization. I don't think our tax dollars need to support racist organizations such as the Black Caucus. I also don't think my membership dues should go to support racist organizations such as the Black Chamber of Commerce. We should have a common purpose. I find it ironic that when a white person says something it has one meaning and a black person saying the same thing is considered differently. We are all Americans. We should act like it rather than having different countries within the country.

GMAN you said it perfectly! Bill Cosby is one of the few blacks actually the only black figure I look up to! I know I listen to everything he says and it's the truth! We have to start taking responsibility for our own actions and I say get rid of black history month and have 365 24/7 American History Year! Celebrate being Americans all the time not all that hypenated bull crap that they spew out to us!

That was going to be my next question. How do you feel, as a young black man, about what Mr. Jackson and Sharpton have to say? Do you think you need these two gentlemen to make something of yourself? Better yet, Do these gentlemen need to be the self appointed representatives of blacks?

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