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golfhobo 10-08-2008 05:55 AM

Debate the debate
 
Come on guys.... you know you want to do it! Where are all those staunch McCain supporters this morning? Tell us again how Palin is going to save the ticket from the grasp of this bumbling fossil. I so MISS that "whooshing" sound that supposedly sounded Obama's defeat only a few weeks ago. :D

I heard (not sure if it's true) that Fox was too embarrassed to even run a poll on their website. :eek:

Do you still believe that the Palin phoenix can counter the Bush albatross around the neck of the McCain buzzard?

Keep it civil now! You know I'm still undecided..... and the right words could still sway my vote! ;)

Colin 10-08-2008 06:47 AM

This should go well... ;)

ben45750 10-08-2008 06:51 AM

The Debate was a bore fest. I'm to the point where I could care less who wins. In fact I would kind of like to see Obama win. I think it might get exciting if he is elected.

Twilight Flyer 10-08-2008 06:56 AM

I only caught bits and pieces and neither candidate impressed me. Biden and Palin were far better.

The election is far from over, too, and there is not much of a gap between Obama and McCain. I still say that without Palin, McCain would have been annihilated on election day. The fact that it's still close, tells me that Palin did indeed resurrect McCain's chances. Whether it will be enough to give him the White House, remains to be seen.

But you know, there's a small part of me that hopes Obama wins the election. It'll be nice to say "I told you so" a few months into '09.

Roadhog 10-08-2008 07:30 AM

They haven't pulled out the big guns yet.
Wait until the last week....Palin will wear a tight sweater with no bra...
and the race will be over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFm8cpzoiw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJkTAS2z6Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zpXmFEUaY&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTUT-jMttc

Hobo...too bad you can't see these youtube links...they are hilarious. :D

golfhobo 10-08-2008 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Roadhog (Post 417403)
They haven't pulled out the big guns yet.
Wait until the last week....Palin will wear a tight sweater with no bra...
and the race will be over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFm8cpzoiw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJkTAS2z6Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zpXmFEUaY&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTUT-jMttc

Hobo...too bad you can't see these youtube links...they are hilarious. :D

'sokay, Hoggie. Every now and then I go over to my Dad's house and watch them there. He has RoadRunner. Next time I go, I'll take him a pair of speakers! :eek:

Oh, but thanks for a few words to explain your postion. Kept me from going OFF on ya! :D

And, don't count on the sweater tactic. I guess she's about a B. Nothing to cry about, but probably not enough to sway too many votes!

golfhobo 10-08-2008 09:08 AM

Twilight Flyer said:


I only caught bits and pieces and neither candidate impressed me. Biden and Palin were far better.
Well, certainly more entertaining!.... wink, click, there ya go, JOE!


The election is far from over, too, and there is not much of a gap between Obama and McCain.
You think so? Obama has like 269 electoral votes in the bank, and leads in, I think, 4 or 5 battleground states by about 4 to 5% (or at least within the margin of error.) And, IIRC, that's even GIVING Florida to McCain.... which is NOT a given. Sure.... there is still a month to go. But, most analysts are calling it already unless something drastic happens.


I still say that without Palin, McCain would have been annihilated on election day. The fact that it's still close, tells me that Palin did indeed resurrect McCain's chances. Whether it will be enough to give him the White House, remains to be seen.
Gee, I don't remember you saying that, but I give you credit for your accumen. No doubt Palin was chosen (as I said,) JUST as a way to sway votes from both independents and conservatives who were drifting the other way...(and women, of course)... with NO consideration to her abilities to fill the job, or to step in if needed.


But you know, there's a small part of me that hopes Obama wins the election. It'll be nice to say "I told you so" a few months into '09.
Cynical are we? And what makes you think some couldn't say the same thing at the same time if McCain wins? But, more to the point... what will America be saying 4 years in? A question lost in all the debates lately is "are you better off today than you were in 2000?" I doubt many can claim they are (with the possible exception of Sarah Palin.) ;)

I don't know of any O/O's who can. Or any trucking companies who can. Or many Bank employees who can. And the list goes on.

But, this is not really a thread about the election. I just want to hear from someone who thinks McCain WON the "townhall" debate he has been crying for. And that it somehow built on the performance of sweet Sarah last Thursday. I want to hear how the Straight Talk (bumbling) Express is going to steamroll their way into the White House, especially on the shoulder (pads) of Palin.... as was promised by so many here a few weeks ago. ;)

Twilight Flyer 10-08-2008 10:13 AM


Well, certainly more entertaining!.... wink, click, there ya go, JOE!
Whatever trips your trigger. I watched the Palin/Biden debate and came away with the following:

1. I trust Biden more than I trust McCain or Obama
2. I trust Palin more than I trust any of the other three.
3. Palin and Biden were both infinitely more likeable and reachable than either McCain or Obama.
4. Biden and Palin should both dump their running mates and run a Biden/Palin ticket. I believe they'd win hands down because McCain Republicans that detest Obama can tolerate Biden and Obama democrats that detest McCain can tolerate Palin. And yes, that's a ticket I could get behind very easily, even with Biden at the POTUS.

After careful consideration and watching a replay of their debate, I called it a draw. I thought Biden edged Palin out on knowledge, but I gave the edge to Palin on presentability. She clearly had Biden against the ropes a couple of times and she maintained or composure throughout the whole thing.


You think so? Obama has like 269 electoral votes in the bank
Provide proof please. But let me help you out...no one has any electoral votes in the bank yet and all Rove was doing was postulating on what he thought was happening. He very well may be right, but that won't bear out until November.


and leads in, I think, 4 or 5 battleground states by about 4 to 5% (or at least within the margin of error.) And, IIRC, that's even GIVING Florida to McCain.... which is NOT a given. Sure.... there is still a month to go. But, most analysts are calling it already unless something drastic happens.
Most of the analysts that are calling it for Obama have a vested interest in him winning and are hoping that it will deter McCain supporters from voting. How about this. When the final numbers come out, that's what I'll believe.


Gee, I don't remember you saying that, but I give you credit for your accumen.
Point out to me where I said McCain was going to win before Palin was chosen. Find a post where I said I was voting for McCain before Palin was chosen. I'll save you the trouble. You can't.

Until Palin was chosen, I was undecided. Obama will never ever get my vote, period. He's a slick talking sleazebag that stands against just about everything I believe in. So that was always a given that I would vote for anyone but Obama. However, my thoughts on McCain for the entire time was that he was given to us by the democrats who didn't want to see Romney or Gulianni on the ticket. True or not, the fact is that McCain isn't the strongest candidate that the Republicans could front and I believe fully that when McCain won it, he was going to be the sacrafial lamb for the Republicans getting back the White House in '12, which will certainly happen if Obama wins. But then something happened that people on both sides of the political fence didn't expect. McCain started picking up support and gaining strength. Instead of being written off, strategists went to work and adding Palin to the ticket was a stroke of genius. Adding Palin to the ticket was what got my vote. Why? Because she's not a Washington insider and she's more like you and me than anyone else put out there for us to vote for.

Is she lacking in some areas? Of course...she's not part of the Washington elite. She's a mayor turned governer with more executive experience than the other 3 candidates combined, but lacking the national and international knowledge to be an immediate shining star on stage. But I'm fine with that. She's running as VP and not as POTUS, but if McCain were to win and then die in office, I'd be fine with Palin as POTUS because that's what a cabinet is for.

But that's neither here nor there. What's happening here is you're trying to claim I said something I didn't, which is apparently par for the course for liberals these days.

Look. The election is a month away. Obama hasn't survived anything yet and he hasn't been hit with any of the big bombs yet, from McCain or the Clintons. He's going to take some nasty hits in the next few weeks and McCain won't. The reason for that is McCain's dirty laundry has long been out on the table, hashed and rehashed ad nauseum. With Obama, however, we're getting new things about his sleazy background every day and it's going to whittle away his support. Will it be enough to get McCain in the White House? I hope so. I do know this...he wouldn't even be an afterthought if he hadn't brought Palin onto the ticket.


Cynical are we?
Yes, I am. McCain and Obama both have a real chance of winning the election. If Obama wins, I already know what that's going to mean for our country. And yes, I'll take perverse satisfaction in saying "I told you so" to a hell of a lot of people and I make no apologies for it. You get what you vote for and it'll be a rude awakening for a lot of liberals and probably long overdue coming.


And what makes you think some couldn't say the same thing at the same time if McCain wins?
I am far more comfortable with what McCain is bringing to the table that Obama. But I'm not a socialist, either. :rolleyes:

marylandkw 10-08-2008 10:49 AM

I watched it and listened to it again this morning on the satalite radio. Complete and total bore. Most all polls are saying Obama Won but I don't see as there was a clear winner or looser.

Colin 10-08-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Roadhog (Post 417403)
They haven't pulled out the big guns yet.
Wait until the last week....Palin will wear a tight sweater with no bra...
and the race will be over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFm8cpzoiw&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtJkTAS2z6Y&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zpXmFEUaY&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTUT-jMttc

Hobo...too bad you can't see these youtube links...they are hilarious. :D

I didn't find those funny at all. I guess I suck...


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