BigDiesel warbled:

Yes, I did.... and I do. Some part of that too hard for you to understand?

Hmm.... U.I. insurance, is paid by and to, and distributed and controlled by STATE governments. I don't live in Orygun, so you have paid NOTHING in any way related to me. But then, you wouldn't understand that.... because you know nothing about nothing!

AS usual, you are wrong on several accounts. But, regardless of how many times we TELL you that you are wrong, you continue to spew lies, innuendos and slander! The mark of a true retard! One capable of communication on only the most BASIC of levels. You have no place or value on this THREAD, this Forum or this Planet! Must really SUK to be you!

de facto evidens promptus!

Sorry, they ALL require a sponsor, and when I mentioned YOU.... they ALL said you had exceeded your quota of sponsorships! I must say..... you are VERY well known on those sites! In fact, without your "contributions" ( :wink: ) MOST of them wouldn't have survived!

I TOLD you before that I am not interested in your veiled recruitment attempts. Try it on the boys choir at your local Church. I'm sure the Priest will fix you up if you slip him a fiver! :roll:

Well lets see...... In the spewing of your typical socialistic :dung: you are idolizing a government that supresses the rights of everday people... You do understand that China is a communist country don't you, or does the goo you swallow at every opportune moment affect your pea brain thought process???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you could READ, Bozo.... you'd know that I was not! First line...."But their RULING party can be!"

Does EVERYTHING go over your head so easily?? You really should have at least graduated from Elementary School! :roll:

First off I have church friends that reside in Bejing before all this Olympic hoopla. So if I want to know what it is like in everyday life in CHINA, I ask them. They come and go out of CHINA and though he was a very well paid lawyer in WA he is happily living there with his wife and kids.
Yes the conditions in China are different then here, duh, :roll: 5000 year ld tradition and culture. As many healthy men and women as there are there are still thousands of orphans in China. My friends are humanitarians that take, care for and place Chinese orphans with loving parents any parents Chinese, Europrean, Canadian, American.

Now back to the games!!

My favorite game is beach volleyball. Misty May-Treanor/ Carrie Walsh.

More propoganda!

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/new...v=ap&type=lgns

Propaganda? That's ALL the Olympics have ever been.

Let's see...barring the pollution aspect, which China claims is merely a "mist", we have the following:

An American there for the games is stabbed to death by a Chinese man and his wife is seriously injured. "Oh, we can categorically deny that this was politically or racially motivated." Bullsh!t! :x

A Chinese women's gymnast team competing on forged passports because most, if not all of them, are under 16 years old, which is the minimum age requirement.

A Chinese men's gymnast team coach that has said on several occassions that anything less than gold medals are completely unacceptable and his gymnasts would be suitably punished.

The same Chinese coach who has said if they don't win the gold, he will throw himself off the highest building in Bejing. (probably after he throws his team off the same building)

Am I missing any others? No worries, though, it's early. The bigger tragedies are coming. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the Chinese athletes...they're busting their butts to compete just like everyone else. But the Communist political propanda machine absolutely turns my stomach.

Whatever dumb-a$$ political committee agreed to having the Olympics in a cesspool like Bejing should be deported off the planet.

Since your bent on pointing out all the propaganda<aka>Marketing you missed this one.

BEIJING (AP)—One little girl had the looks. The other had the voice.

So in a last-minute move demanded by one of China’s highest officials, the two were put together for the Olympic opening ceremony, with one lip-synching “Ode to the Motherland” over the other’s singing.

The real singer, 7-year-old Yang Peiyi, with her chubby face and crooked baby teeth, wasn’t good looking enough for the ceremony, its chief music director told state-owned Beijing Radio.

So the pigtailed Lin Miaoke, a veteran of television ads, mouthed the words with a pixie smile for a stadium of 91,000 and a worldwide TV audience. “I felt so beautiful in my red dress,” the tiny 9-year-old told the China Daily newspaper.

Peiyi later told China Central Television that just having her voice used was an honor.

It was the latest example of the lengths the image-obsessed China is taking to create a perfect Summer Games.


In a brief phone interview with AP Television News on Tuesday night, the music director, Chen Qigang, said he spoke about the switch with Beijing Radio “to come out with the truth.”

“The little girl is a magnificent singer,” Chen said. “She doesn’t deserve to be hidden.” He said the ceremony’s director, film director Zhang Yimou, knew of the change. He declined to speak further about it.

China has been eager to present a flawless Olympics face to the world, shooing thousands of migrant workers from the city and shutting down any sign of protest.

The country’s quest for perfection apparently includes its children.

A member of China’s Politburo asked for the last-minute change during a live rehearsal shortly before the ceremony, Chen said in the Beijing Radio interview, posted online Sunday night. He didn’t name the official.

During the live rehearsal, the Politburo member said Miaoke’s voice “must change,” Chen said.

“We had to make that choice. It was fair both for Lin Miaoke and Yang Peiyi,” Chen told Beijing Radio. “We combined the perfect voice and the perfect performance.”

“The audience will understand that it’s in the national interest,” Chen added.

He said he felt a responsibility to explain to the country what happened but on Tuesday the link to the video on the Beijing Radio Web site no longer worked.

Miaoke’s performance Friday night, like the ceremony itself, was an immediate hit. “Nine-year-old Lin Miaoke becomes instant star with patriotic song,” the China Daily newspaper headline said.

Zhang, China’s most famous film director, was asked at a post-ceremony news conference about the little girl who swung on wires high above the Bird’s Nest National Stadium during the performance.

“She is a lovely girl and she sings well,” Zhang said, according to a transcript posted on the Beijing organizing committee’s web site.

The switch became a hot topic among Chinese and raced across the country’s blogosphere.

“The organizers really messed up on this one,” Luo Shaoyang, 34, a retail worker in Beijing, said Tuesday. “This is like a voiceover for a cartoon character. Why couldn’t they pick a kid who is both cute and a good singer? This damages the reputation of both kids for their future, especially the one lip-synching. Now everyone knows she’s a fraud, who cares if she’s cute?”

Others disagreed.

“They want the best-looking people to represent the face of China. I don’t blame the organizers for picking a prettier-looking kid over the not-so-pretty one,” said Xia Xiaotao, 30, an engineer.

“It’s the unfortunate reality that these sort of things turn political,” said marketing worker Zhang Xinyi, 22.

It was not the first time an Olympics opening ceremony involved lip-synching.

At the 2006 Winter Games in Turin, Luciano Pavarotti’s performance was prerecorded. The maestro who conducted the aria, Leone Magiera, said this year that the bitter cold made a live performance impossible for Pavarotti, who was in severe pain months before his cancer diagnosis. Pavarotti died in 2007 at age 71.

Also Tuesday, Beijing organizers confirmed that some of the opening ceremony’s fireworks display—29 gigantic footprints shown “walking” toward the National Stadium—featured prerecorded footage. The footage was provided to broadcasters “for convenience and theatrical effects,” said Wang Wei, vice president of the Beijing Olympic organizing committee.

(NBC also has augmented its Olympic coverage in the past to set the right mood. That fire in the studio fireplace during the 2002 Salt Lake Games? It was just a video.)

Neither of the two little girls involved could be reached by The Associated Press on Tuesday, and it was not clear how the ceremony—or the controversy— might change their lives.

Peiyi is a first-grader at the Primary School affiliated to Peking University. Her tutor, Wang Liping, wrote in her blog that Peiyi is both cute and well-behaved, with a love for Peking opera.

“She doesn’t like to show off. She’s easygoing,” Wang wrote. She and other school officials couldn’t be reached Tuesday.

Miaoke, however, was a minor celebrity even before the opening ceremony. The third-grader appeared in a TV ad last year with China’s biggest gold medal hope, hurdling champion Liu Xiang, and she was in an Olympics ad earlier this year, China Daily reported.

Her father, Lin Hui, told China Daily he learned Miaoke would be “singing” only 15 minutes before the opening ceremony began.

Lin “still cannot believe his daughter has become an international singing sensation,” the report said.

Chi-Chi Zhang and Isolda Morillo in Beijing contributed to this report.

It sounds like common marketing from an image obessed world to me.
You can tell me that by buying tampax I am going to feel like I am running through a field of lilies in a silky white dress. And when I buy them I am not going to feel ripped off, because I know it is just marketing. I already know I will feel like chit, I would rather not think of chit when I am reminded by a commerical to pick up some chit absorbers
Get it.
Got it.
Good. :wink: :P

Olympics are entertainment if you are looking for more that well that's why your frustrated. I watch sports because it is entertaining. not because I know these people are worth their salaries or all the stupid products the players are sporting are what I need to look like them.

Yeah, I caught that one earlier and forgot to post it. I also didn't post the one about judges favoring the Chinese in both boxing and gymnastics.

Bottom line, it's a f'ing farce and to believe otherwise is the height of ignorance.

The only thing about the Olympics worth watching is Michael Phelps destroying everybody and the idiot French swim team having to eat their words (Lord that was high comedy!).

Sad for the Olympians, but pretty much the going rate today. Put it this way. If some 2-bit 3rd world country had half as bad a human rights record as China does, they'd have already been invaded and their leaders put on trial and executed. But it's China...let's all play nice and make believe nothing is wrong over there. And the execs and NBC should all be hauled out and shot in the streets for pandering to them.

So, in closing, here's a big "F" you to Bejing, to the Olympics, to the IOC, and to all the political BS artists involved. Football starts in 3 weeks and Madden '09 is out today...I ain't hurtin' for sports-related stuff.