Definetly Wyoming for me. I remember when I used to go otr through that state and they were about to close the 80 accross the whole state. All you could see was the tire treads in the snow ahead of you, but other than that the conditions were safe for driving because it was a clear sunny day. I wouldn't go over 35 mph and had my hazards going and every few miles a tractor-trailer would blast by me going about 60 mph, completely spraying my windshield with ice. And I would say to myself, that guy will crash. And sure enough before I got to Utah, I saw almost all those trucks, flew off the road and got stuck or crashed. That black ice will get them everytime. Definetly stupid and inexperienced.

How many times have you heard: "WE'RE PUTTING UP A SPRAY, WE'RE OKAY".

They fact is, YOU'RE NOT OKAY. Many times, that spray may be coming from a layer of water on top of ice, not pavement. Ice under the liquid means you have ablosutely NO contact with the pavement. If you depend on the spray as an indicator of how safe you are, it's going to let you down. You have GOT TO KNOW what's under that spray in order to know how to drive on it.

I've seen guys park in a truck stop, get out of their trucks and promptly slide under it. I've also seen a couple of guys do exactly the same thing on the shoulder of the road. And, when I stopped to see if they were ok, they were talking about how they were putting up a spray, and the road should not be that slick.

If they were spraying your windshield, they were putting their haith in that MYTH. That's why you got to see them wrecked.

Also, how do you know that those drivers were from up north, not simply passing through from down south?

I know how you feal, i left out of mortin, il just south of peoria a few days b4 this post. roads were ok, except the underpasses at witch time I could read risinger on the side of my trailer. iced up underpasses and strong winds, wasn't doing over 45 myself, later that night hit a nice patch of ice, slid toward the side of the road, got control and cleaned my pants out. at that point i decided i had enough excitement and parked the truck for the night

Hey windwalker, your right about that the spray should never be an indicator of safety. Also I had no idea where those drivers were from. I just thought they were driving to fast for those conditions.

:lol: Texas bird dog. Aint right. :P

I put that in for "terrylamar's" benefit. He said that we are always talking about Texans and their driving. But, I will give some of them some credit. One trip I made, I came out of NM on I-40 and got to see some of the local boys chaining up to run level ground. They DID know their limitations. I wasn't loaded heavy, and still had no trouble at all. Golfhobo would remember that. He said it was "PUCKERING" that night. He was going west, and I was going east. There were a LOT of trucks that were wrecked on that road in that weather.