As usual you have turned this into something more than what was started. I only said it's not illegal to have a fake gun. I did not say anything about waving it around or pointing it at random people. If you are threatened by someone and you point a fake gun at them chances are they would back down. It's not illegal to own a fake gun so if you are planning on carrying a gun then why not a fake one? You won't be prosecuted for it and if your in a bad situation chances are the aggressor will back down. That's all....GEEZ

[Tailgunner]

Hey Scoe

That incident with the covenant driver gettin shot by the north american driver, that also happened in texas about a year or so ago. A Celadon driver got shot or stabbed by another driver (unknown company name).

[yoopr]

Originally Posted by Windwalker

I believe you'll find that it's covered from the point of "preception". Just like "sexual harrassment", if the offended party feels it is harrassment, then, it's harrassment. If you point a gun at someone, and they feel threatened because they think it's real, you're in trouble.

A few years ago, my daughter was in a car with other kids. They stopped at a SHOPCO and bought a little BB gun. It looked real enough. But they took it out of the box while driving around town. The next thing they knew, there were more than 20 squad cars zeroed in on them. OUT OF THE CAR, FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND, AND SPREAD 'EM WIDE!!! My daughter says that with more than twenty guns pointed at them, she was praying that the breeze didn't even move her hair. One wrong move and the cops would have started shooting.

Now, would you like to die because of a fake gun that LOOKS real?????

thanks for clarifying Windwalker
Wonder how many people are in prison because they tried to hold up a bank AND they are also charged with Armed Robbery because they had a Toy Pistol. Actually having their hand in their coat trying to imply they had a weapon would be Armed Robbery.

[terrylamar]

A handgun is easily concealed and that seems to be why states regulate it to various degrees. Why not carry a shotgun or even a rifle. For defensive purposes I guess a shotgun would be better. You have enough room in your truck to use it. You could even go to the trouble of having a legally registered Any Other Weapon (AOW) $5.00 fee vs. a short barreled shotgun $200.00 fee. Just keep your papers with you and they should superceed any state law. I am not a class III dealer so don't quote me on this. I do have all the state laws, I should go through them to find out in which states this would be legal.

[SamIam_Murphy]

the whole gun issue is complicated. different laws in every state, can't take a gun into canada, etc... I do have a big pry bar and a claw hammer.....

[terrylamar]

"You could even go to the trouble of having a legally registered Any Other Weapon (AOW) $5.00 fee vs. a short barreled shotgun $200.00 fee. Just keep your papers with you and they should superceed any state law. I am not a class III dealer so don't quote me on this."

Lucky I had the disclaimer, I know better, you can't take your Class III out of state without BATFE permission.

[Deerhunter]

I was always taught that every weapon is always loaded. And that if you are going to point a weapon at someone you better be ready to use it because if you get some crackhead with his own gun he will darn well be ready to use his. My father taught me that. My mother never wanted firearms in the house. BUT she beleived that was everyone elses choice to make for there own homes. She had no problem with anyone else having one. I own several. and if I could I would carey mine everywere. I am not a big person and yes I could be overpowered in a parkinglot if traveling alone. So drop the macho BS it really dosent fly with me. I would not hesitate to defend my home or family. Or freinds. Or myself. I am important to my family as well. I have heard plenty of accounts (not stories) were people have succesfully defended their homes, selves, places of work. and so on. You just dont get that from the gun control biased media. The 2nd amendment isnt about duck hunting. They dont get that.

[Flatspot]

I'll admit that I've been places (mostly metropolitan areas), in the wee hours, that I would have felt comforted if I'd had my .357 with me. You know the kind of place I mean. You back up to a wall so the thieves can't pop open the doors and steal your cargo. Doesn't protect you if they want to pop open a sleeper vent a spray something in there. You really need a gas mask and a gun in some places. I've been to some, they tell you "don't get out of the truck. We'll open the doors for you, close them for you, bring the paperwork out to you". Know the kind of place I mean?

If you want to carry a gun in a commercial vehicle, you need a license that allows you to carry that gun regardless of state, county, or city regulations. Only people I can think of with that kind of license are FBI and US Marshall. Good luck getting one of those licenses.

Next, your gun in only a short-handled club unless you have ammunition. If you have bullets, you need haz-mat endorsement on your CDL, and three (count 'em, 3) placards on the rig, regardless of the cargo in the wagon.

1) Explosion hazard.
2) Fire hazard.
3) Projectile hazard.

The rules for hauling ammunition are a good deal more strict than for other haz-mat in terms of "allowable quantities" that don't require placards. For ammunition, that's basically one (1) round.

So, to legally carry a gun while driving commercially, you need to satisfy all of the above requirements.

[classicxl]

There is no reason to be carrying a gun on a truck. You what you have tire thumper baseball bat whatever lock your doors get a dog and if your still scared your in the wrong profession

[Deerhunter]

Originally Posted by classicxl

There is no reason to be carrying a gun on a truck. You what you have tire thumper baseball bat whatever lock your doors get a dog and if your still scared your in the wrong profession

Being scared is not the point. Its being prepared for the worst. its being smart. You wouldn't ask a police officer to go into those places UNPREPARED. Why would you ask an unprotected, insufficiently trained (in hand to hand combat) Trucker to do the same. Unless you are driving around with a police escort that is. And a dog is against company policy with alot of companies as well. As far as locking doors goes a lock is, "as I have been told a thousand times" only to keep the honest people honest. I have seen were thieves are better at opening your door than you are. As far as baseball bats and tire thumpers go. Well they are no match for a crackhead looking for a quick score if hes armed and your not. You have the right to your preferred method of protection why do you think its ok to deny me of mine. I believe it should be left to the individual to decide. That is what this nation is about everyone being able to do their own thing.