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KAIMIKAZEE 02-12-2007 10:00 AM

speedometer problems
 
just recently my speedo was spiking and then it stopped working...

my trip meter and mileage had also stopped working also....

what could be problem???

bob h 02-12-2007 10:16 AM

Re: speedometer problems
 

Originally Posted by KAIMIKAZEE
just recently my speedo was spiking and then it stopped working...

my trip meter and mileage had also stopped working also....

what could be problem???

vehicle speed sensor

KAIMIKAZEE 02-12-2007 10:19 AM

yes i was kind of leaning toward that....

i heard it was behind the tranny where the drive shaft connects..

but what does it look like????

bob h 02-12-2007 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by KAIMIKAZEE
yes i was kind of leaning toward that....

i heard it was behind the tranny where the drive shaft connects..

but what does it look like????

2 to 4 wires come from over top (or side) of transmission... it is either threaded in and locked with a jam nut, or bolted with a retainer. it is at the rear of the transmission at the output shaft

Maniac 02-12-2007 11:02 AM

It threads in AND has a locknut, and a plug with the wires, you can change it out in 15 minutes.

Just ask the parts guy how many turns to back it out after it bottoms out, I can't remember, BUT I think its one turn.

Last time I changed mine it was around $30.

bob h 02-12-2007 11:20 AM

quote="Maniac"]It threads in AND has a locknut,

it has a jam nut, as i stated above.

locknuts have distorted threads or nylon rings that stop a fastener from backing off completely after becoming loose


and a plug with the wires, you can change it out in 15 minutes.

Just ask the parts guy how many turns to back it out after it bottoms out, I can't remember, BUT I think its one turn.

Last time I changed mine it was around $30.[/quote]

bottom it out, then back off a 1/2 turn

KAIMIKAZEE 02-12-2007 01:11 PM

cool thanks guys, i just found where the sensor is...

will be digging it out tomorrow....

yeah peterbilt quoted me $43 for the sensor...

possum squat 02-13-2007 01:16 AM

are there usually 2 (or more) speed sensors?
is this speed sensor the same as the one used for other sub systems?

bob h 02-13-2007 04:15 AM

quote="possum squat"]are there usually 2 (or more) speed sensors?

no... ...depending

is this speed sensor the same as the one used for other sub systems?[/quote]

it's a magnetic pulse generator..., if that's what you mean.

abs sensors as well as some engine speed sensors are the same type of sensor

KAIMIKAZEE 02-13-2007 06:17 AM

well finally pulled it out...

the tip had some fresh oil on it...

i only drove it for like a half mile than i parked....

speedo works...

couldn't really go far because of the weather....

hope that oil on tip isn't an issue?????

bob h 02-13-2007 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by KAIMIKAZEE
well finally pulled it out...

the tip had some fresh oil on it...

i only drove it for like a half mile than i parked....

speedo works...

couldn't really go far because of the weather....

hope that oil on tip isn't an issue?????

is it possible to see the tip of the sensor after it is installed? i'm guessing NO. if this is correct than the sensor is threaded into the tailshaft housing and runs in an oil bath... normal.

if it leaks, you can thread it back out and install a new gasket

KAIMIKAZEE 02-13-2007 06:28 AM

yeah it would be possible if it weren't so cold to see the sensor tip again...

so it's normal to be soaked in oil...

what could've had caused that to fail?????

like you said, it's pretty much a maganet...nothing electrical...

bob h 02-14-2007 01:54 AM

quote="KAIMIKAZEE"]yeah it would be possible if it weren't so cold to see the sensor tip again...

so it's normal to be soaked in oil...

what could've had caused that to fail?????

like you said, it's pretty much a maganet...nothing electrical...[/quote]

some sensors are internal and some are external to the transmission... the sensors that are internal are threaded into the trans tailshaft housing and are exposed to the oil in the trans... it is normal for these to have oil on the tip

externally mounted sensors are mounted in about the same location but they thread into an ear or bracket and when you thread them in, you can watch the tip come in to contact with the tone ring (notched tooth wheel on trans output shaft), and these are not exposed to the trans fluid, and therefore it is not normal for them to be wet

the pulse generator is a magnet wrapped in a wound coil... yes, they're electric

raymundo1 01-14-2014 05:37 AM

owner operator
 
I have a 1998 peterbilt with a cat and a 10 speed eaton transmission and I have problems with the speedometer, the problem is that the speedometer is going down and not giving the right speed unless I coast. Lets see if I can splain this... if I am on the freeway and I got the crouise control on everything is good until I encounter a hill and the truck has t accelerate to keep up with the speed and then is when the needle o my speedometer starts going the wrog way until goes back to 0... if I decelerate it goes back to normal. I already change both speed sensors on the transmission and no result. Please let me know if anybody has an idea what is wrong... could it be the speedometer board?
Any input would be appreciate....

Maniac 01-25-2014 05:02 AM

The nut on the rear flange/yoke is loose, the speedometer ring is sandwiched between the yoke and rear bearing, when the nut loosens the ring spins and gives an eratic reading, however the nut is NOT loose enough to fall off, I have tightend them 1/2 a turn and fixed this problem, shop labor should be 1 hour or so, easy fix

SRJENT 03-07-2016 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 528841)
The nut on the rear flange/yoke is loose, the speedometer ring is sandwiched between the yoke and rear bearing, when the nut loosens the ring spins and gives an eratic reading, however the nut is NOT loose enough to fall off, I have tightend them 1/2 a turn and fixed this problem, shop labor should be 1 hour or so, easy fix

Thanks for the help Maniac. I had the same problem as raymundo1 which started after the transmission was replaced. I also replaced both sensors, cleaned the plugs, made sure wires weren't crimped. I even tried another speedometer head. Just this weekend, we pulled the driveshaft down and found the yoke nut was loose. I went ahead and got a new nut and u joint straps and bolts. Speedometer works like new. Cruise control works up and down hills like it is supposed to. Thanks again.


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