Allowing the turbo to cool off isn't a dumb thing. A turbo cost's far more than 1 or 2 gallns of fuel.

I own my truck. I shut my truck off at the fuel island, after filling out my logbook and writing down my location and mileage in a journal I keep. I do this to give the turbo a chance to cool off, as well as giving the heads the same cool down period.

If I am spotting to unload, and I know that I will immediately be using the truck's motor to either run the PTO driven pump, or provide air to "air off" a load, I do not shut the engine off. Constant shutdown and starting wears heavily on the starter and selinoid. I just spent $2350 replacing my starter....so I consider what I need to do, before I do it.

Flying W I can understand why you're behind the wheel and not in the front office........ some of the factors you aren't taking into consideration:

A. Many companies have contract rates for customers where fuel surcharges are already set.....an increase at the pumps isn't easy to pass on to the customer in that case. And, even though many companies buy at contract prices with suppliers, due to the record setting prices for crude, the futures are unpredictable.......the discounts previously enjoyed by the companies are quickly becoming a thing of the past.
B. Surcharges and increased rates have to be delicately balanced with current economic state ...... if you haven't realized it, we are in a recession. Companies are closing, lay offs are happening everyday, manufacturing is cutting shifts and production, because the consumer demand isn't there.........you, sitting behind the wheel out on the road, should be able to recognize the fact that there has been a drop in the flow of products across our highways. Manufacturers are looking to cut cost anywhere and everywhere they can to stave off force reductions.......that includes shipping rates......... trucking companies have to balance any rate increase very carefully or they can very easily price themselves right out of business.

Your assumptions that the increases can easily be passed on to the customer aren't in fact reality. Every driver (company drivers included) needs to do whatever they can to operate in the most economical fashion possible in these uncertain times of our economy. Remember, your driving career depends on the viability of the company to remain competitive during these lean times ......... the company doesn't exist for your employment.... you have a job only as long as the company remain viable.

With your logic that companies can pass everything onto the customer, I would strongly suggest that you may want to remain a company driver....... at least until you become more knowledgeable about the economics of running a business and making the necessary decision to stay afloat.

I suspect the driving reason for governing their trucks is two fold:
A. For economies derived from better milage........and
B. Because their insurance underwriter gives them better premium rates based on the lower speeds.

Both of which could very well be the difference between making it through this slow down or watching the auctioneer selling off their assets.

I suppose, based on many post on this thread and recent similar others, it should be easy to determine the difference between a steering wheel holder, a professional driver, and the owner operators!

Why many cannot understand, that although they work for a company, drive company equipment, and such, that they are very much part of the success or failure of that company!

Just another driver trying to justify another dumbazz driver's actions who has his own interest in mine, not the price or fuel or the company that is for sure. Birds of a feather flock together, that is for sure.[/quote]

ive owned a 160 hp ac farm tractor and a 90 hp international farm tractor.owners manuals for both recommended 3 minutes to idle /cool down.
now i drive an 07 mack and after you turn the key off it will idle for a long time till the computer determines from various sensors that the correct conditions for shut down exist. i avoid overriding the computer by turning the key off twice because i like to take care of the equipment as best i can. call me names all you want.

I'm not a mechanic so please don't beat me up over this, but two out three company shops told me that by the time we rolled down the off ramp, and got the truck parked that we could shut it down as the turbo would be cool enough by then. I say two out of three as I have serious doubts about the second one even having a shop considering the condition of the 48' steel flatbeds.

Lifesmullet, with your reading comprehension skills you might want to read this several times in the hopes of understanding it.

Your entire point A can be summed up in two words, hence the use of the words price volatility (I'll give you a minute to look up the definition of both words).

"Every driver (company drivers included) needs to do whatever they can to operate in the most economical fashion possible in these uncertain times of our economy. Remember, your driving career depends on the viability of the company to remain competitive during these lean times ."

The day I see Lifesmullet tell his company to cut his pay down to minimum wage, cram two other drivers into the truck and toss in a bucket so that it can continuously roll for lower operating costs and greater company viability (stopping only to fuel, load, or unload) is the day I'll listen to rubbish like that.

And you had to drag up a year old thread just to insult another board member?

And who is Lifesmullet?

I believe all trucks should be limited to 55mph. Save fuel, save lifes.

11 hours ave 50mph Times .28 cents per mile. = 154 dollars a day times 6 days a week = $924 per week times 45 weeks a year = 41,500 a year. Thats 7 weeks off plus 1 day a week off = 101 days off and 264 days worked. Beats flipping burgers and nobody gets in a hurry. Ahh Life is good.

What fantasy land you live in?

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