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I just had my first day of orientation with Koch (pronounced Cook) in Minneapolis, MN.
I have the handbook in front of me if you have any appropriate questions. And here is a copy of the blog I posted today. So far Koch trucking has been top notch. I arrived last night by plane which was paid for by Koch. I was given a room (alone!!) at the Sheraton Four Points on Industrial Blvd. The rooms are fantastic compared to some places companies have house me in. There is room service here, pool and exercise. There is no free wifi. The people are polite and the service is quick. Koch pays for 3 breakfast buffets at the hotel restaurant which opens no sooner than 0630 cst. There is nothing within sight of the hotel except for a wendy's and a gas station. The first day was very pleasant, until the class clowns got loosened up and started causing presentations to go longer. You are given an agenda which is pretty much in line with actual events. First you will be greeted, then Human Resources goes over company policies and insurance options. NOTE: bring your information and that of your families. You will need social security numbers, and your medical long form. Be prepared to make insurance decisions. You can change them before your enrollment period. You are not eligible for insurance until 90 days have passed. You can change your mind during that time. The plans are a little pricier than some. A single person who chooses a 750 dollar deductible can have a 30/week premium with 30$ copays. Only the plan with the highest deductible is eligible for the HSA. FSA is available but only after 1 full year of employment. Same with 401k. Drug tests and Road tests do not begin until 11 or 1130. First day is a working lunch. During this time paperwork is filled out and people are in and out for testing. If you fill out your paperwork the night before (as the packet you are given at check in suggests) you may be disappointed because you still have to set through the process because others did not fill it out. Drug tests are done in-house. Driving tests are interesting... The trucks they use are 9speeds. So in addition to curves and intersections you aren't used to (normal for a trucker) you have an evaluator and gears that you don' t know. These trucks also shift at 1200rpm. So if you're used to listening to an engine to shift, you'll be sorely shocked when you keep getting told to shift. After lunch, you'll go through a presentation on the qualcomm and something else I can't remember. They show you a video for Open Road which is a ticketfighting insurance. You also fill out a form for highway watch. At 4 cst we were released to the hotel and told to be back by 0730. Not a bad day at all. Every person I encountered was nice and seemed to have a sense of humor. One word of advice, do not use cursewords or say inappropriate things even when you think no one is listening. They take professionalism very seriously. If you have facial piercings, consider how important they are to you. Company policy is no facial piercings due to safety reasons. I believe it has more to do with the projected image. |
They show you a video for Open Road which is a ticketfighting insurance. |
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Originally Posted by Uturn2001
They show you a video for Open Road which is a ticketfighting insurance. |
Worked for Koch just a year now, have to tell you, they really look after their drivers, being english I needed to go back to the U.K. over Christmas, for a family death, they told me to just call them when I'm back.....When I worked at the Orange truck company, they wouldn't even give me two days unpaid off....but I took it.
The trucks are ok, I'm dedicated out of Lawrence KS, home every Friday night, although sometimes late! but I have a cool boss, who understands drivers....getting around 2400 a week, which all works for me, might not be enough for others, but I'm lucky I guess. |
Koch is starting to show their "good side"
and that is sarcasm.
My first load out of the terminal ended with my qualcomm being torn from the roof of my cab when a car cut across 2 lanes and slammed on the brakes on a too narrow shoulder. I put on the brakes and the ice from my trailer came and took off my satellite. Since then I've taken my time at home, even got an extra day because there was "no freight". I bobtailed back up to columbus, got an empty, drove to Marion, OH for a D/H and headed to st louis, then omaha, ne. My dispatcher was ON ME to hurry up in freezing rain, saying there was plenty of freight in omaha to get me back to minneapolis for repairs. I made my delivery at 2, and spent 27 hours waiting for a load. During that time I made a few phone calls and was assured by the people I talked to that things would get better when I got my satellite back up. They could not find me a load from Omaha to Minneapolis, so instead I picked up a 750 mile load for a 3 am delivery sun night/mon morning. That was late friday evening and I toldl the dispatcher to get me a load ready for 5 am out of Columbus. He says OK! and gives me the big fake smile over the phone. I'm parked 20 miles from my delivery. Since I don't have a qualcomm I called in and told them I'd still be ready for a load at 5 am. Well tough crap (he basically said), the dispatchers don't come in until 8 (9 my time) and there is no load on you. (And he was such a pleasant pleasant man too :roll: ) So now, after just having sat 24 hours, and rearrangeing my schedule to do a 3 am, I have to just sit for another 6-10 hours waiting on a load? WTF??? How would it have been any different with a satellite? Didn't my phone call just complete the job of a satellite? Now, some would say- this is the business of trucking- but you wouldn't say it when it affected YOUR bottom line. |
Re: Koch is starting to show their "good side"
Originally Posted by BeauteousRot
and that is sarcasm.
My first load out of the terminal ended with my qualcomm being torn from the roof of my cab when a car cut across 2 lanes and slammed on the brakes on a too narrow shoulder. I put on the brakes and the ice from my trailer came and took off my satellite. Since then I've taken my time at home, even got an extra day because there was "no freight". I bobtailed back up to columbus, got an empty, drove to Marion, OH for a D/H and headed to st louis, then omaha, ne. My dispatcher was ON ME to hurry up in freezing rain, saying there was plenty of freight in omaha to get me back to minneapolis for repairs. I made my delivery at 2, and spent 27 hours waiting for a load. During that time I made a few phone calls and was assured by the people I talked to that things would get better when I got my satellite back up. They could not find me a load from Omaha to Minneapolis, so instead I picked up a 750 mile load for a 3 am delivery sun night/mon morning. That was late friday evening and I toldl the dispatcher to get me a load ready for 5 am out of Columbus. He says OK! and gives me the big fake smile over the phone. I'm parked 20 miles from my delivery. Since I don't have a qualcomm I called in and told them I'd still be ready for a load at 5 am. Well tough crap (he basically said), the dispatchers don't come in until 8 (9 my time) and there is no load on you. (And he was such a pleasant pleasant man too :roll: ) So now, after just having sat 24 hours, and rearrangeing my schedule to do a 3 am, I have to just sit for another 6-10 hours waiting on a load? WTF??? How would it have been any different with a satellite? Didn't my phone call just complete the job of a satellite? Now, some would say- this is the business of trucking- but you wouldn't say it when it affected YOUR bottom line. |
Re: Koch is starting to show their "good side"
Originally Posted by BeauteousRot
and that is sarcasm.
My first load out of the terminal ended with my qualcomm being torn from the roof of my cab when a car cut across 2 lanes and slammed on the brakes on a too narrow shoulder. I put on the brakes and the ice from my trailer came and took off my satellite. Since then I've taken my time at home, even got an extra day because there was "no freight". I bobtailed back up to columbus, got an empty, drove to Marion, OH for a D/H and headed to st louis, then omaha, ne. My dispatcher was ON ME to hurry up in freezing rain, saying there was plenty of freight in omaha to get me back to minneapolis for repairs. I made my delivery at 2, and spent 27 hours waiting for a load. During that time I made a few phone calls and was assured by the people I talked to that things would get better when I got my satellite back up. They could not find me a load from Omaha to Minneapolis, so instead I picked up a 750 mile load for a 3 am delivery sun night/mon morning. That was late friday evening and I toldl the dispatcher to get me a load ready for 5 am out of Columbus. He says OK! and gives me the big fake smile over the phone. I'm parked 20 miles from my delivery. Since I don't have a qualcomm I called in and told them I'd still be ready for a load at 5 am. Well tough crap (he basically said), the dispatchers don't come in until 8 (9 my time) and there is no load on you. (And he was such a pleasant pleasant man too :roll: ) So now, after just having sat 24 hours, and rearrangeing my schedule to do a 3 am, I have to just sit for another 6-10 hours waiting on a load? WTF??? How would it have been any different with a satellite? Didn't my phone call just complete the job of a satellite? Now, some would say- this is the business of trucking- but you wouldn't say it when it affected YOUR bottom line. |
Re: Koch is starting to show their "good side"
Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
Could the fact that you are going to have to sit for 6 to 10 hours waiting for a load, possibly have anything to do with the economy, and lack of loads in general??
And this is seriously typical? WOW That is one thing SNI did have going for them, they rarely had you sitting. Cheap freight or not, I get paid the same. |
Look around people.......... The economy is slowing, it's winter, who shops in winter! do you notice that there are truck lines out there pulling anyone's trailers?
It's getting tougher and will not improve for a while yet, so sitting around will be the thing going down for the next couple of months...... Switching jobs every other month will not do any one any good.... Stick it out, slow your personal spending down and be patient! Learn to be something other than a "I want it now" type of human. :D 8) :lol: |
People still have to eat and take a crap and go to school and buy gasoline, etc etc etc. So they still need things hauled. I'm just sayin!
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Originally Posted by BeauteousRot
People still have to eat and take a crap and go to school and buy gasoline, etc etc etc. So they still need things hauled. I'm just sayin!
We are in a very severe economic downturn...to be PC. All the trucking companies that could, doubled, tripled and quad-roupled in size when freight was plentiful, and trucks were demanding top $$$ for the service they provide. The shoe has slipped off the toes now, and loads are not plentiful, rates are in the toilet, and yes...even the newest drivers are having to sit, just like us "old timers". Maybe if you offered to forgo your wages, they would run you hard as you want to be run??? |
Sit sit sit... That's all I do. I do a delivery, then have to sit from 2 to 15 hours waiting on a load.
I just did a delivery in Fremont, OH on Sunday at noon. Guess what! No dispatchers working, so no load for you! OK I'LL TAKE THIS ONE IN STRIDE! Go chill, get a massage, eat, watch a movie. Monday morning I don't even have my pants on yet and I have a load. GREAT! (I get the impression it is because I had my qualcomm and sent in the macros correctly and assume it will work like this in the future). OK its a broker load that doesn't even load for 6 hours. OK... GRR. I get the load and head down the road and I'm about 6 hours from destination when I think "I'll go ahead and deliver earlier than my appt in hopes I can get another load on me. I'll still have 4 hours to run." NO SUCH LUCK and here I still sit. So I called in and tried to figure out what was going on? Why am I always sitting. "Well, he says, we have new drivers to take care of" I'M NEW! I'VE ONLY WORKED HERE 3 WEEKS! I said- can I expect it to continue to be like this? 1400 miles a week and sitting all the time?? It is march, freight traditionally picks up now. He said- well I try to get all my drivers 2500 ,at least 2000. TWO THOUSAND?!?!!? Thats 3.5 days of work and 3 days hometime a week in MY book. All that may seem a little bit drama-ish. But I'm really frustrated. I could care less really about how much money I make. My bills are few. But I do not like sitting around for HOURS and HOURS a day. So, in the professional opinions of others, how long do I give them slack? How long can I seriously be expected to wait on loads? How many days a week should I put up with it? Daggumit, I'd go back to schneider if they'd hire me. |
OK....I'll use the "R" word....recession. We are heading into one and the experts on the economy agree. Listen to the Bloomberg channel on Sirius and you will hear it also. With oil at, or over, $100 a barrel, diesel at $3.60 per gallon, costs rising, consumers wanting the cheapest and best prices going on everything we purchase....its no wonder you are able to get 2,000 miles a week. The "little guys" in the trucking trade are dropping like flies. If they are able to hang on, they are doing it on less income and more expenses.
Times are tough all over....no matter if you are in trucking, real estate, computers, etc. Consumer demand for gasoline dropped to its lowest level in 16 years in January. What does that tell you? Consumers are not driving as much as they used to. Consumer spending is also down. My business is down and I would guess that most of the guys reading this post are in the same situation also. I feel for you but at this point in time your situation is not unique. Englishman is correct....you don't want to job jump around. The best piece of advice I can give you is this....hang in there. If you like Koch, stay with them. Get to know your dispatcher a little better. Learn how to "work" him so that you get the miles you need. Tighten your act up also so that he has no reason to give you anything but the best runs. Drivers can sometimes underestimate the people skilss needed in this business. You don't have to be a kiss a$$, just treat tehm like you want to be treated. OTR has always been a waiting game. I doubt it will change anytime soon. If you found a company that treats you well, has benefits available for you and your family and you can make a living, then ride it out. Times will get better. It may not be until 2009 or 2010, but they will improve. BOL out there BeauteousRot. |
So have things gotten any better for you at Koch? I would like to hear any news of how they are. home time ,time out. lanes mostly traveled.ETC. will they get you time off where you want some times. A friend just started with them and I should be heading over there myself in a couple weeks. I know they sent him out to Ontario CA twice so far. an to Pa from SD,Ca. and hes from Minneapolis. those have been some decent miles from what I see. All Koch drivers input welcome. 8) :D
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I have posted before, I stated then, Koch seem to be as good a company as anyone else out there, I have been there 13 months, averaging around 2450 a week, I work out of Lawrence Kansas, on the Kmart account, most weeks I only pull one or two loads for them the rest is all broker loads.....
Good trucks, good boss, good all round......... For those who don't like, go elsewhere, that leaves more miles for the rest of us! |
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