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Graymist 09-10-2007 09:39 PM

Schneider increases pay
 
schneiderjobs.com/payincrease

First it was Crete, and now Schneider. Is this a harbinger of a change for the better for truck drivers ?

Truck Driver Dave 09-11-2007 03:39 AM

SNI did a change in pay because most of there long haul miles are going on the train now, so they are just trying to make up for the lack of miles with a little higher pay. Its a lot like JB Hunt. If you kinda look at SNI and the changes they are making, they seem to be following the JB Hunt model to a T with a few SNI changes here and there.

Tho I do wish that the trucking industry was changing for the better, I do not see SNI pay increase as trucking taking a turn for the better.

continental 09-11-2007 10:20 PM

WOW! Where do I apply? :?

Piece Of Work 09-12-2007 05:26 AM

The pay may increase, but sometimes the miles decrease right along with it. The best indication of the future of trucking is that the Mexican truck deal may have been killed.

Roadie 09-12-2007 05:31 AM

Where did you hear the Mexican deal is in trouble?

Clay51 09-12-2007 07:53 AM

Even at a dollar a mile, pay is poor if one does not get the miles.

In May this year, the assistant terminal manager at the Crete Wilmer terminal told me that the lenght of haul was going to drop, and I would be spending more time and more time in the Midwest, meaning more unpaid time logged on line four, and still having problems getting home when needed.

And since my home in Texas was just outside the zone, Mid South regional was out of the question.

Add to this his comment that dispatch was not required to get a driver home, only to keep them moving, I realized it was time for a change.

Strange thing was, he, and the Wilmer terminal manager, could not understand why I found another job with in 4 days of the last comment.

Now I have a reqular schedule, paid holidays, paid delay time, home daily, and know who cooks my meals.

My only regret, that my bride and I did not turn in our trucks the same day.

Aquarius 09-12-2007 11:25 PM

Don't know how JB works,I do know how Schneider works since I drove 2 1/2 years for them up till recently.
Schneider is actually a good company to work for,95% of the time I was predispatched,downtime is minimized. If you willing to work hard 3000 miles a week is no problem,lots of drop and hooks.

The pay increase is a positive move,downside: they pay HHG miles,living on the west coast I was paid less than rest of the country.

The minute they switch to practical or PC miler and don't differenciate on geographical location for pay,my application is on their table.

cpmorpheous 09-13-2007 02:27 PM

Hey Aquarius, were you on a dedicated account or system?

They have a Wal-Mart account about 25 miles from me. So naturally I'm thinking about them as well. Thing is, I was told by a recruiter that the account averages between 2,000 and 2,200 miles weekly. Don't sound like too much to me though...

Truck Driver Dave 09-14-2007 08:56 AM

I didnt run Walmart when I was with SNI. I ran system, regional rail, local rail, flat bed.. But from what I hear Walmart accounts can be good and bad. Lots of sitting and waiting or lots of busting butt to get here and there running you, only to let you sit.. So I donno.. Have you checked at the pumpkinboard.com?

Colts Fan 09-14-2007 12:49 PM

A recruiter from SNI came by school today and told us about the new payscale.

According to the recruiter, the new scale pays HHG miles, not practical miles

Karnajj 09-14-2007 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Clay51
Even at a dollar a mile, pay is poor if one does not get the miles.

In May this year, the assistant terminal manager at the Crete Wilmer terminal told me that the lenght of haul was going to drop, and I would be spending more time and more time in the Midwest, meaning more unpaid time logged on line four, and still having problems getting home when needed.

And since my home in Texas was just outside the zone, Mid South regional was out of the question.

Add to this his comment that dispatch was not required to get a driver home, only to keep them moving, I realized it was time for a change.
home daily, and know who cooks my meals.

Care to explain your statement about dispatch not being required to get drivers home? That's pure bullsh*t. And as far as avg length of haul is concerned, mine has been increasing for the last 6 months. For the month of August it was nearly 1100 miles.

Skywalker 09-15-2007 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Roadie
Where did you hear the Mexican deal is in trouble?

I have nothing concrete....but I heard from someone that....while the deal is in place...with the DOT, it turns out that since the FMCSA/DOT pretty much ignored Congress's concerns.....the funding for the project got pulled, so that will pretty much prevent anything from happening. We'll have to see what pans out shortly.....

Fredog 09-15-2007 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by continental
WOW! Where do I apply? :?


www.beatruckerandstarvetodeathinonly2weeks.com

Clay51 09-17-2007 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by Karnajj

Originally Posted by Clay51
Even at a dollar a mile, pay is poor if one does not get the miles.

In May this year, the assistant terminal manager at the Crete Wilmer terminal told me that the lenght of haul was going to drop, and I would be spending more time and more time in the Midwest, meaning more unpaid time logged on line four, and still having problems getting home when needed.

And since my home in Texas was just outside the zone, Mid South regional was out of the question.

Add to this his comment that dispatch was not required to get a driver home, only to keep them moving, I realized it was time for a change.
home daily, and know who cooks my meals.

Care to explain your statement about dispatch not being required to get drivers home? That's pure bullsh*t. And as far as avg length of haul is concerned, mine has been increasing for the last 6 months. For the month of August it was nearly 1100 miles.

Then the next time you pass thru Wilmer, be sure to tell Zac he is full of it, because those are his words, not mine, although I doubt he will remember back to May.

But when many drivers have a problem getting home, even for vacation, like the driver I met in SLC who lost over $3000.00 in travel reservations because Crete would not get him home in time for vacation.

Or the driver living in Iowa who was told by his terminal manager to get sick on his home time, because he would not be routed home for a medical appointment.

I have been within 150 miles of home, with an appointment and home request on the truck, only to be sent 900 miles in the wrong direction.

You seem to find every thing about Crete to be picture perfect. Question, are you really a driver?

Tatertot 09-17-2007 04:12 AM

I've been at Schneider for a while. Usually when there's a pay increase, they take money out of another area. They don't believe in giving money away ya know.

Skywalker 09-17-2007 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Fredog

Originally Posted by continental
WOW! Where do I apply? :?


www.beatruckerandstarvetodeathinonly2weeks.com

I don't care who you are....thats just funny... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

09-17-2007 01:37 PM

Ask yourself this: with the economy in the doldrums and lots of rate-cutting going on, how is it that SNI is able to raise prices to offset the supposed pay increase?

These mega-haulers are experts at robbing Peter to pay Paul - they've been doing it for years. When all the shells get moved around on the carny table, you're looking at the same money or less. And last I looked, prices aren't going DOWN in the stores.

yoopr 09-17-2007 01:44 PM

so now you're a Schneider authority?

09-17-2007 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by yoopr
so now you're a Schneider authority?

If they're offering a pay increase, that means they have to offset that expense somewhere else on the balance sheet. Ah, but where? Fuel? Nope. Can they raise prices? Best o' luck with that one in this market. So where is the money coming from to fund these payraises?

yoopr 09-17-2007 02:40 PM

Donny and Susie

Ian Williams 09-18-2007 04:07 AM

A while ago I heard a joke that Schneider is German for JB Hunt, I guess its becoming true.

It looks like they are just hiking pay in the midwest and northeast for all of the short runs that are the final leg of a piggyback. If you look at their pay for the South and West if still on the low side.

For longer lengths of haul its often cheaper to piggyback than have a 3000mi solo trip given how much diesel costs today.

Living here in Reno I can see 30-50 car unit trains of nothing but piggyback trailers. The vast majority are JB and Pumpkin with some Werner, Swift, UPS, Yellow/Roadway and ABF mixed in.

It seems like the van market is splitting short haul intermodal shag work for solos and more time sensitive hot freight for teams.

dipstick 09-19-2007 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Karnajj

Originally Posted by Clay51
Even at a dollar a mile, pay is poor if one does not get the miles.

In May this year, the assistant terminal manager at the Crete Wilmer terminal told me that the lenght of haul was going to drop, and I would be spending more time and more time in the Midwest, meaning more unpaid time logged on line four, and still having problems getting home when needed.

And since my home in Texas was just outside the zone, Mid South regional was out of the question.

Add to this his comment that dispatch was not required to get a driver home, only to keep them moving, I realized it was time for a change.
home daily, and know who cooks my meals.

Care to explain your statement about dispatch not being required to get drivers home? That's pure bullsh*t. And as far as avg length of haul is concerned, mine has been increasing for the last 6 months. For the month of August it was nearly 1100 miles.


Yep, that's why I quit, if they don't have a load going home , guess what, you don't go home.

Aquarius 09-20-2007 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug

Originally Posted by yoopr
so now you're a Schneider authority?

If they're offering a pay increase, that means they have to offset that expense somewhere else on the balance sheet. Ah, but where? Fuel? Nope. Can they raise prices? Best o' luck with that one in this market. So where is the money coming from to fund these payraises?

Schneider can simply afford it,they are pretty close to what JB Hunt makes(publicly traded).
Their pure profits are in the range of 350 million(yearly),on revenues of about 3.7 billion.
Even if all 15,000 drivers average a 2000$ yearly increase,that amounts to 30 million,less than a 10% hit on the bottom line,easly affordable by Schneider.

Said that,I agree with you, some of it will just be money shifting.

Just during my 2.3 years with Schneider,this company bought APS port services,two rail yards,opened logistics in Csech Republic,boght logistic firm in China,bought trucking co. in china,bought even air forwarding logistic co...and whom knows what else.

Its long due to give their drivers a more competitive wage!

Ian Williams 09-23-2007 11:27 AM

As I was saying the future of Solo Dry Van:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...I80MM369_2.jpg

This was taken yesterday from WBI80 ~mm40 between Fernley and Reno NV.

Looking at the future of higher fuel prices and/or a CO2 tax piggybacking low value, non time sensitive freight will continue to grow. A handful of engineers and 2-4 4000HP Locomotives and do the work of 30-50 solo drivers.

Just my $.02


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