Scott that's good advice. OOIDA is one thing but these places charging in ballpark of $1,500 to do what you can do yourself much cheaper is ludacrous.

Ok thanks,

Thanks for the advice, had no idea.

Funny, but everything is not white and black. There are some other colors. I even remember it was a separate tread, "New vs Used", or something like that few years ago. So i don't want to start another one. Just a couple thoughts;- Main advantage of a new truck is that you know your cost at a start, and less posible downtime. Disadvantage- initial cost, and newer truck complications. Used truck main advantage is just a initial cost, everything else is disadvantage. BTW, did you look into gliders? But that's just a tools, it's not what you got, it's how you use it. If you doing things right, truck payment is a no big deal, if you are in a wrong, it won't save you, just prolongs an agony.

Is there a carfax type site for tractors / big trucks to check out the claims history? …… If your lucky.

is that the truth! it would have been about $200 cheaper and i ended up filling all the papers out anyway! they just mailed them in.

I don't remember exact cost but think I had $500-600 total in getting authority plus the insurance. May been little less or more. I learned few area I could've saved money too.

Yeah it's called take it to a dealer and have it checked out and dyno'd

The filing fee to get your authority is $300 if you do it yourself.

Buying new used to mean that you would usually spend less time in the shop than buying an older truck. That isn't necessarily true with the new emissions. A friend of mine was in a Freightliner dealer a few months ago and he was told that about 95% of the trucks in their shop were there due to emissions problems. And these were new trucks. A good used truck that has had good maintenance and been taken care of could spend less time in a shop than a new truck.

Any O/O in Lexington Ky area here that wanna talk about this? I'll buy an awesome breakfast.