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Originally Posted by Kevin0915
If you sign a log book at 06:00 when you wake up/start your day/do your PTI, whatever, are all your entries done for the day? No. Your line is not at the end of the 24hr block, thus ALL ENTRIES are not completed. And signing a log book at 06:00 would/could be considered falsification. Much like if you were parked for the night, knew your 11 and 14 hr clocks were burnt up, and it was 23:00, most drivers draw the line to the end of the day....that is falsification. Do i do that? sure, who dont. But i dont sign my logbook till the end of the day.
Okay...just to do a little Lawyer thinking of my own....
If you sign it at 0h dark thirty as you say, and you have ONLY entered the PTI and (I guess started a line or indicated the beginning of line 3) are stopped 15 mins down the road, at the TIME you are stopped and inspected, ALL your entries would be current and correct.
The reg you quoted only says that your signature certifies ALL entries that are ON the log. Now.... you wouldn't want to get caught having finished out the day's log (as you stated) before you have actually arrived at a delivery and/or made it.
I doubt finishing out the night once you are ROD and can't legally move would be a major problem. EVEN if you got rousted at 11 p.m. for a logbook check, it would not be "untrue" that you are OFF DUTY at that time.... and WILL be until after midnight.
I agree that there seems to be no clarification in the regs (big surprise) about WHEN to sign the log, but I believe the "spirit" of the reg assumes that it will be signed after the LAST duty status change of the day.
I also found very interesting the concept that until you sign it, you SHOULD be allowed to correct it without getting a ticket. But, I also know that the DOT probably don't THINK that way.