Need to purchase a set of steer tires, and would like opinions on ohtzu 109, toyo m147, or double coin rr300 or others 11r 22.5 lo pro. Thanks, Buddy

We have a buddy who does alignments who suggested Toyos to us a few years back. In his experience, the Toyos were getting better mileage than the Michelins. They didn't do too well for us but they weren't awful- I don't recall what kind of miles we got out of them. Wasn't impressive but wasn't real low, either. We did switch back to Michelins.

Ours were 16 ply Toyos. I don't recall the numbers on the side of the tire.

I don't know anything about the other brands you mentioned.

I'm really surprised there have been no other replies to this. Must not be very popular tires.

Ohtzu makes a very decent tire. Never bought their steers, but had 3 trucks with their deep lug drive tires, and all the trailer s had their lo-pro tires. Very good life on the trailer tires. 2 were stepdecks with the 10'2" spread.

Toyo does make a good steer. Have had them several times over the years on various company trucks.

Bridgestones all around.....280 steer and 726EL behind

Steer tires ---I have the best service from Michelin XZ-1s

Gunfighter

He's on XM radio laying this stuff out there for free. Sure, he sells many different products, but he lays it out free on the radio.

I can't say anything better than what he would say. Go to his website, find the link for the Michelin rolling resistance list, and make rolling resistance one of your primary factors in buying the tires. Kevin claims to have checked it out already, the Michelin website gives accurate numbers for all brands of tires so you can compare, and, 'no', Kevin isn't sponsored by Michelin.

No one should be offended by this guy, he's been there and done it, he's applied a calculator to everything like probably no one else you're going to meet, and he's branched out in every direction from tax law to personal finance, to maintenance, fuel economy, contracts.... I can't say he's tried to make his own logbook, though. ;-D

As far as the Turbo 3000 goes, they've pulled those commercials claiming 10% or your money back. Without trying it, I bet it does give some people a couple tenths of a mile per gallon more. And, if that's the case, it'll much more than pay for itself in a short time. Maybe it doesn't work in some applications, too. I think the most egregious thing was the claim that it'll boost your mileage 100% OR YOUR MONEY back- ok, they weren't claiming 100%, but it's equally truthful to say 10% OR YOUR MONEY BACK as it is to say 100% OR YOUR MONEY BACK, since you were never likely to get either. They've fixed that, though.

Actually, here's the link to find the rolling resistance on the tires you are thinking about:

http://cdlofit.ning.com/page/page/sh...APage%3A359512

My steers are the Bridgestone 280s, my drives are the 287 ELs. No matter how they wear, they won't be what I put on next time, I'll be going for lower rolling resistance.

I suggest Bridgestones R287 Steers and M726EL Drives.

I'm not trying to pick an argument, but WHY do you suggest them?

The way it looks to me, we all should be moving to steer tires or all position tires on the drives. All that extended life rubber, it's actually worse on fuel than when the tire has worn down some. Even then it doesn't compare to steers or wide singles. Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative. It sounds like you are advising him to do what many people have been doing but the situation has changed (fuel costs) and it surely appears there is a better strategy.

I once figured it out, and I think I came up with the potential of $500 per month more profit if you could increase your fuel mileage 1/2 mile per gallon.