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freebirdrfd 01-17-2014 01:39 AM

Marijuana
 
We have a driver who got caught with a joint in his truck coming back across the border. For some reason I am under the impression that it is an automatic loss of license. My questions are 1: is it an automatic loss of license, and 2: how would my boss and I find out if he doesn't tell anybody? I'm not convinced that he is telling the whole story.

Roadhog 01-17-2014 02:07 AM

Can't you call the customs office where he got caught, to get info? automatic loss of license? 5 years I think.

Even with all the states adopting medical marijuana laws, and Colorado and Washington legalizing recreational use, it will still remain listed in Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substances Act.
A user will fail a drug test, and an MRO will not verify a drug test negative, based on physician recommended medical marijuana use.

Any driver who gets a medical marijuana card, will not get their cdl renewed, either.

freebirdrfd 01-17-2014 02:48 AM

The bossman and I are kind of worried that he will lose his license, not tell anybody, and just keep driving.

Roadhog 01-17-2014 03:42 AM

Okay,.. now I getcha… I tink. If the Border guy's haven't turned him over to local police, then he's probably okay, as far as DOT finding out.
Probably had to at least pay Customs a fine to be allowed to leave, eh. :confused:

freebirdrfd 01-17-2014 04:03 AM

I do know that Maine state police got involved and shut him down for X amount of hours.

Bigmon 01-17-2014 05:41 AM

what about running a new RMV report?

chris1 01-17-2014 06:26 AM

Almost every state has a system to notify the employer for a suspended or when any moving violation occurs on a CDL. Have your boss apply for the notification.

freebirdrfd 01-17-2014 01:05 PM

Thanks guys

GMAN 01-17-2014 02:37 PM

I certainly understand your concern. I don't understand how some people can be so stupid when it comes to drugs and their career. If the problem was on the U.S. side, then there should be a police report. If you know where he entered the border, you might contact them and ask if there is a way to get a copy. They guy is legally supposed to notify the employer of any suspensions, tickets or arrests. Until there is a trial and conviction, he should still have his license. The out of service should show up on his CSA. The carrier can check that for himself. It usually takes about 30 days to show up. One DOT guy told me that if he writes a citation that it won't appear on the CSA unless an inspection was performed at the time. But, if there was an OOS, that might appear under OOS, whether there was an inspection or not. If he is smoking dope or taking any type of drugs, he is a risk. I would not want him working for me. If he has drugs in a truck and is caught, it could come back on the carrier. The truck could be impounded and towed. If it were me, I would cut him loose. It isn't worth the risk. If he is in an accident and drugs are found, even a single joint, it will place fault squarely on the carrier.

Roadhog 01-18-2014 02:24 AM

Things will get even more strange, when we have to start hauling bales of this weed, to the processor plants and distribution centers. :)

Probably see a lot of white people working the fields.

golfhobo 01-19-2014 03:05 PM

Lol, Roadie! Sort of like them BEE trucks! Always losing a few bees here and there! ;)

danske 01-26-2014 09:53 PM

But, yet Marinol w/ a prescription is Legal! Go figure!?!

danske 01-27-2014 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by freebirdrfd (Post 528713)
We have a driver who got caught with a joint in his truck coming back across the border. For some reason I am under the impression that it is an automatic loss of license. My questions are 1: is it an automatic loss of license, and 2: how would my boss and I find out if he doesn't tell anybody? I'm not convinced that he is telling the whole story.

Isn't getting caught in the possession of an illegal substance reasonable cause for urinalysis? Isn't any performance issue of a driver reasonable cause(eg. continuous late deliveries, poor attitude with customer relations, abuse of company equipment, etc.)?

As for an automatic loss of license, the Federal government or even the US DOT doesn't enforce the issuing and revoking of licenses; Isn't that an individual State function? So, for instance, a driver violates an OOS order, that is a federally defined offense. But, the State that issue the driver his/her license would be responsible for taking the action of revoking/suspending the license.

I appreciate your sharing with us your concerns. What you have told us doesn't seem to be the complete story. Perhaps, you protecting the innocent or quilty. Or are you concerned that their are others who have slipped thru the cracks in the law and have not reported an incident as required?

danske 01-27-2014 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Roadhog (Post 528741)
Things will get even more strange, when we have to start hauling bales of this weed, to the processor plants and distribution centers. :)

Probably see a lot of white people working the fields.

Imagine the day when we will be hauling bales of HEMP to processsing plants where it is turned into fabric, paper, and other useful products.That will be the day I see people in D.C. working for the People.

freebirdrfd 01-27-2014 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by danske (Post 528899)

I appreciate your sharing with us your concerns. What you have told us doesn't seem to be the complete story. Perhaps, you protecting the innocent or quilty. Or are you concerned that their are others who have slipped thru the cracks in the law and have not reported an incident as required?

It's the complete story as I'm being told. We are a 2 man ( plus the boss ) operation, with one part time/ on all driver. I'm hoping not to get a phone call on a day off saying that I have to take a 8 hour ride to get his truck out of a impound yard somewhere. His stupidity is going to get me pulled into a lot of dot inspections.

harleypiper 04-30-2014 12:40 PM

Just piss or hair test everyone if there are only a few drivers, that way it's politically correct as they say.. However I don't even think you need a reason to test, it's all federal and the owner wants it done is good enough reason..

GMAN 04-30-2014 01:22 PM

I don't want a driver who has a drug problem anywhere near my equipment. Drivers are subject to random drug testing at any time. You can also test them as often as you wish. If you suspect a driver is taking drugs, you may want to hit him with a random drug test. If a driver gets caught with drugs in YOUR truck, it could cost you a lot of headaches. If he has drugs in the truck or in his system and is involved in an accident, it could cost you much more than you may realize.

merrick4 05-01-2014 04:04 PM

We are signed up to a service that alerts us to any change in the driver's record. Also as Chris1 said you can go on the states sites and check. I haven't done all states as most of our drivers are from Florida. By the way I see you are from Raynham, I grew up close to there and use to go to the dog track a lot as a little kid in Raynham.

freebirdrfd 05-02-2014 02:16 AM

I quit that company about 3 weeks ago, so I could care less what happens to them. Merrick4, I grew up in REHOBOTH, but live in Raynham now.

XDT 05-06-2014 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by freebirdrfd (Post 528715)
The bossman and I are kind of worried that he will lose his license, not tell anybody, and just keep driving.

All the boss man has to do is run a DMV on him...It will state suspended, revoked etc. The driver signed away his privacy right in this regard when he hired in.

macabre 01-26-2021 10:30 AM

Guys, maybe you can give me some more info about CBD?

dubawntgulkana 04-28-2021 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by macabre (Post 551491)
Guys, maybe you can give me some more info about CBD?

Are you on CBD Treatment?

I think CBD is mainly used for anxiety, insomnia, and chronic pain. Do you experience such?


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