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Fredog 12-23-2011 12:01 AM

They didnt screw us too bad
 
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Windwalker 12-23-2011 01:50 AM

I guess if I were still driving, the two time periods between 1 AM and 5 AM would not be a problem. I generally fit my 34 hours into a 48 hour time span. The 30 minute break after 8 consecutive hours of driving isn't all that bad either. I used to take a break after about 6 or 7 hours... Generally in a restaurant, and often for 45 minutes. That wouldn't not affect me too much at all. The two hours in the jump seat being off duty time should help some of you.

Malaki86 12-23-2011 09:40 AM

I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.

repete 12-25-2011 12:18 AM

That 34 reset once aweek might screw me up, what's the big deal if you do a 34 every 5 days?

Windwalker 12-25-2011 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 506691)
I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.

I did a whole lot of "run full out" until my driving time was up. But there were also many times I did take a break. Thinking back, I don't know if it's all that bad an idea to take a break. I know there were times when that was not convenient, and I doubt that's changed much, if any.

GMAN 12-25-2011 03:30 AM

I know that it is too much to ask, but it would be much better if the feds and all these special interest groups would leave drivers to decide when they can work or run and when they need to rest. It should also be up to the driver when they need to do a reset. It will be interesting to see who files the first lawsuit.

golfhobo 12-25-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Malaki86 (Post 506691)
I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.

No offense intended to YOU, but... there are too many out there that get a bit sleepy and sloppy on those "hard runs" of 11 hours straight without getting out of the seat... especially at 4 a.m. Make 'em get out of the truck for 30 mins... slap some cold water on their face and get some coffee or a bite to eat... maybe even FORCE them all to play a video game... and I'll be MUCH relieved out there on the road.

golfhobo 12-25-2011 07:11 AM

I think I LOVE it. Haven't digested it all yet, but got the gist of it. Proves my point to the Rev that time spent "on the truck" but not in the sleeper should be considered OFF duty if the truck is parked... AND (for teams) if the truck is moving.

A mandatory 30 minute break is GOOD for safety, and EASILY managed in most logging systems.

I can't see where the 1-5 a.m restriction should affect anyone who is actually taking his 34 hr. restart. Please consider that these required times will be on your LOGBOOK times... not your pickup and delivery times in other parts of the country. A guy logging on east coast times will have to plan for a restart that allows him to make a pickup at maybe 5:30 a.m. But, if he's on the west coast, that will be at 2:30 a.m. I don't see how anyone CAN'T get a 34 hr restart and still make an early morning pickup... even on the east coast.

If OBAMA can get this passed... no reduction to 10 hours driving. No change to the duty window... MADD loses and Obama and truckers WIN!

Don't shoot a gift horse in the mouth just cuz he looks like a Donkey!

Malaki86 12-25-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo (Post 506749)
No offense intended to YOU, but... there are too many out there that get a bit sleepy and sloppy on those "hard runs" of 11 hours straight without getting out of the seat... especially at 4 a.m. Make 'em get out of the truck for 30 mins... slap some cold water on their face and get some coffee or a bite to eat... maybe even FORCE them all to play a video game... and I'll be MUCH relieved out there on the road.

Ok - so, how good is this going to work when you're needing to take a 30 minute break driving anywhere in the northeast at, say, 2am? I can see the fuel islands backing up for miles now.

Mystikal 12-25-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by golfhobo (Post 506750)
I can't see where the 1-5 a.m restriction should affect anyone who is actually taking his 34 hr. restart. Please consider that these required times will be on your LOGBOOK times... not your pickup and delivery times in other parts of the country. A guy logging on east coast times will have to plan for a restart that allows him to make a pickup at maybe 5:30 a.m. But, if he's on the west coast, that will be at 2:30 a.m. I don't see how anyone CAN'T get a 34 hr restart and still make an early morning pickup... even on the east coast.

How about those that are on the west coast time for logging and have a 530a pick up time in the east... which is 330a, or even 230a in MST or PST? It works good for east coasters on the west but not really vice versa. I only bring it up 'cuz i'm based out of Denver and we go to the east quite a bit... this could potentially hurt drivers in the same boat... unless I missed something!?!


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