translated "substantially worse for drivers"

Winner! Winner! Winner!

Except you said it as though there'll be a choice available. As any fleet owner worth the stains in their Hanes would tell you, the most efficient truck on the road is the 24 hour truck aka TEAM. The proposed rule is the fleet owner's dream come true. Imagine how much better you'll feel when they pat you on the back and announce that, thanks to the new rule, the ONLY way to make a buck is to run teams. "Our hands are tied!"

As for the owner-ops, what are you going to do? Eat the lost revenue or find someone to team up with?

Did you wait for it to load? Then you have to click on the PDF link to open the document.
The info Fozzy outlined is there all right.

I say let them cry when their STUFF isn't in the stores for their convenience. As usual someone telling someone how to do something that they have never done and have no conception of. Oh and the actual extra hours sitting is for when your dispatch is sleepin'.

just don't do radar in VA ;-)

Okay, thanks. Everything loaded quickly. I clicked on every hyperlink I could find. I didn't know I had to click on the AdobeReader LOGO to see the comments. I have seen them there now.

However....I AGAIN want to point out that this is NOT anything official BY the FMCSA or even the gov't. This is just ONE submitted "comment" by Mr. Jasny who works on behalf of one of the "anti-trucker" groups. Obama has nothing to do with this other than the fact that His administration will be issuing the next interim or final ruling.

Mr. Jasny is just saying that these things SHOULD be included in the new ruling under the Obama administration. That he WANTS them to be included.

In further researching of the Regulations.gov website, I found the following "suggestions" in the form of a report actually REQUESTED by the Obama administration and generated by the DOT/FMCSA task force set up for the purpose of guiding the administration in formulation of the new HOS rules:

Regulations.gov

I think (once again) you will find some of the more trucker-friendly suggestions that I alluded to earlier that I found on the FMCSA site. And, to my mind at least, these might carry a bit more weight than Mr. Jasny's temper tantrum.

Mike3fan had it right, and he agreed with me, that many were overreacting to a "suggestion" that probably has NO chance in Heck of becoming a substantial part of the new HOS rules.

from that report "Consider a new comprehensive study on the use of activity monitors and other technologies in CMVs and their potential impact on driver health".

I can see the Lawyers lined up waiting to line their pockets off that one.

Most sleepers have 2 beds and 2 seats. By my reckoning there's room for 3 in there ;)

BTW, I haul fuel, and these companies abuse the hell out of HOS. Just because you are "allowed" to work 70 hours in 5 days doesn't mean you're -supposed- to do that. These guys work 70 hours in 5-6 days a week, take a 34 and do it all over again. That's 14 hour days on paper, and more like 15-16 IRL depending on the computer. And we are also allowed one 16 hour day per 34 hour reset. I would welcome a reduction in HOS just so I can have a life.

I would prefer if they could make some sort of distinction between local and OTR, rather than painting all trucks with the same brush. But since my company crosses state lines, we even then we'd probably be closer to OTR than local.

Well, it seems to be not too bad, but they still didn't adress the issue of flexibility.....
Hours-of-Service (HOS) Proposed Rulemaking (December 2010) - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

If there were no rules then we would have companies requiring yo to go 1000miles/day and giving you your amphetamines with your bills. It may be good for O/Os to be able to run like they want but if i was forced to run twice the miles for the same pay...i couldnt take it.

Exactly, whatever the max allowable driving time is, we are expected to so so, therefore anyone who slept bad the night before or had a badday o whatever is a hazard. we may be fine with 5-6 hrs sleep ,but regulations are not made for each individaul according to their safe margins. if they were then we'd be competing against eachother for how long we can drive in a day etc.