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Cueball 03-27-2009 07:01 AM

Logging Natural Disasters
 
Whats the logging situation for naturals disasters? I have a friend of mine who has been asked to make an emergency run From MN to IA and back to ND with a load of sand bags. I know in some cases if its a "National emergency" the log book is "thrown out". Do you have to have documentation other than the BOL to do this? Whats the FMCSR regs on this situation?

Orangetxguy 03-27-2009 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Cueball (Post 444095)
Whats the logging situation for naturals disasters? I have a friend of mine who has been asked to make an emergency run From MN to IA and back to ND with a load of sand bags. I know in some cases if its a "National emergency" the log book is "thrown out". Do you have to have documentation other than the BOL to do this? Whats the FMCSR regs on this situation?

An Emergency Proclomation has to be made by the President, then FMCSA must suspend HOS regulations for those whom are directly involved in responding to the situation. Usually those trucks are given FEMA paperwork which proves their status.

There is a driver at USXpress whom was posting here. Flood. He knows lot's more about it than do I.

Cueball 03-27-2009 07:23 AM

That's what I had remembered but I wanted to double check. The company he drives for is notorious for running there drivers hard ( illegal). I used to drive for them a couple of years ago and left when they really started to push there drivers to run illegal. They will tell there drivers anything to put bucks in their pockets. They have been audited several times and somehow come out ok.

Jackrabbit379 03-27-2009 01:32 PM

As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder.
That's a bad deal up there. I've got a cousin that lives in Grand Forks.
That's the other Red River. :p Funny thing. That Red River flows north.

GMAN 03-27-2009 02:42 PM

We delivered some generators after the last hurricane hit Texas. If I remember correctly we had a letter that stated we were doing disaster relief. A year or two ago we hauled some disaster relief supplies in Washington after some flooding. They allowed us to take a shorter route in order to deliver sooner. The government will relax rules when it is in their best interest to do so.

Orangetxguy 03-27-2009 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 444148)
As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder.
That's a bad deal up there. I've got a cousin that lives in Grand Forks.
That's the other Red River. :p Funny thing. That Red River flows north.

Yeah...it has to go north...before it can head south! Just one more tributary of the Missouri!

Jackrabbit379 03-27-2009 03:57 PM

I reckon so.

golfhobo 03-27-2009 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Orangetxguy (Post 444191)
Yeah...it has to go north...before it can head south! Just one more tributary of the Missouri!

Actually, not. I heard that it empties into Lake Winnipeg in Canada.

cdswans 03-27-2009 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 (Post 444148)
As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder . .

I'm pretty sure you're right on the money but I'm still a little confused . . do you log the disaster, then chuck the log or do you chuck the log and then log on the next page?

If you use the discarded log to plug a dyke, which line would you record that on?

In the event of a roundtrip scenario, as stated above, are you throwing out two logs or four?

What is the carbon footprint of a discarded log?

Windwalker 03-28-2009 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by cdswans (Post 444217)
I'm pretty sure you're right on the money but I'm still a little confused . . do you log the disaster, then chuck the log or do you chuck the log and then log on the next page?

I believe you still log it as you do it, but note that it is "DISASTER RELIEF".


Originally Posted by cdswans (Post 444217)
If you use the discarded log to plug a dyke, which line would you record that on?

If it only takes one finger to plug the hole in the dyke... You use one page. If it takes more than that, you use the whole book.


Originally Posted by cdswans (Post 444217)
In the event of a roundtrip scenario, as stated above, are you throwing out two logs or four?

What is the carbon footprint of a discarded log?

It has a HUGE GULLY washed out down the middle of it.


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