Line 5 questions
 

I'm hoping someone can clarify a line 5 issue. If I am drinking outside of the CMV, do I still log it on line 5? If so, do I also have to log line 5 at home? Does line 5 count toward my 14/70 hours? Is mouthwash a line 5 item?

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Yes
Yes
Yes(14) and no(70)
No

Hope this helps :lol:

I don't believe you. I want regs to back it up.

Section 395, part 22, sub section 69, sub-sub section 2. :lol:

I'm hoping for clarification on this issue.

When operating as a team. The co-driver goes to line 3 (Sleeper Berth) while the other driver operates the CMV.

Since the off-duty (sleeper berthed) driver is relieved of all responsibility for operation of the CMV. As I understand Golfhobo's guidance to new drivers. Drinking alcoholic beverages while in the sleeper should not be a problem at all for the relieved driver on Line 3. How easy it is we forget that the sleeper is an entity entirely unto itself. I'm glad that Golfhobo cleared this up for us.

I'm thinking of trading in my local CDL for an OTR CDL and getting in on the party! Hell, I had no idea what I have been missing. Thanks, Golfhobo!!!

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Depends what you were drinking. Did you swallow? :twisted:

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ew.

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:shock:

You came to the right place.

Absolutely! Otherwise, someone might back into your truck and you would have to go on line 4 to deal with it. Besides, if you were IN the truck, you would have to be on duty regardless of whether you were off duty or not!

Yes! Otherwise, you could be considered "awaiting dispatch" and might be considered on-duty. You can only be considered OFF-duty while DRIVING your unladen CMV full of alcohol to your home! Being PARKED or "relieved of duty" doesn't count.

NO. There are only two lines that are considered ON-duty.... lines 3 and 4. Unless, of course, you are polishing your chrome while OFF-duty (especially on a 34 hr reset.) Then you are servicing your truck and therefore must be ON-duty according to the on-duty reg. The only exception to this is if you are DRIVING a truck full of alcohol and you OWN the truck, or are heading to WalMart. And even then... you MUST be on line 5 unless you are on line 1 or 2. [line 2 is NOT recommended while driving.] Whatever you do.... do not touch or get IN or ON your CMV while you are off duty! This will automatically constitute an ON-duty situation and blow your 10 or 34 hour reset! [unless your are logging line 5.

This very serious and important "exemption" is still being researched by FMCSA experts like Mike M. I think the answer lies somewhere in whether or not you are "carrying" it or possessing it. And it could depend on whether you were DRIVING your unladen CMV (full of alcohol) while OFF DUTY or ON DUTY.

To be safe, I recommend chugging all the beer and booze in your sleeper, (because as long as you're in the sleeper, you are not considered On Duty, although you MUST be On duty to log sleeper berth time,) then topping it off with the mouthwash. Throw away all the evidence, (without passing through the ON Duty cab of your vehicle,) wait 4 hours, then send in your "ready" macro!

This will put you on line 4 and the question would then be moot.