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Long time CB'er and skip talker from the mid 70's to early 80's. These post all started by someone letting the trucking drivers know about the FCC WATCHING the 10 meter bands and such. A lot of drivers hear all kind of talk about what is legal and what is not. Everyone is a trucking lawyer at least one time in his or her life. How many times have you been told something that the person said is the law and you did it to find out it was not and you could have been fine. Being glad you didn't get caught. We there is even more dumb CB'ers out there trying to be lawyers and telling young 20 year olds oh this is legal or they could not sell it to you or by from me it's legal. Whatever the reason some will not know. By just saying something is illegal is not enough. Someone will say well that is dumb why is that, at least 2 or 3 in a group of 10. OK they may not say it but think it. Some on here try to bring more info to make others better informed. This radio guy after reading his first post some bashed him from jump. A little known fact if I read it right is when you get your ham license you are also acting on behave of the FCC. Meaning if you knowingly let someone break the FCC law you too can lose your license and be find as well. The FCC use to administer all tests for a ham license now depending on the ham likewise level they are and do administer the test. Ham operators do help enforce ham laws or they can be punished as well.
I could really care less if a CB'er gets find $10,000 if he knew the law but some young adult not knowing and gets find $10,000 with a wife and kid/s thinking it is just a glorified walkie talkie and a no license sounds good enough to be true gets caught well I do mind then. To tell you the truth at this point I can not tell which one looks the stupidest or childish the one that keeps spouting rules or the one responding. I guess after 5 or 6 pages later you can't. :roll: I've been on the CB side for many years running illegal in the early days of my CBing and will possibly now but I am reading to get my ham license not to talk on different frequencies but to learn to make amps and run them legal on those bands. The reason I'm getting into the ham thing after all these years is to build something and then using it legally. Why do something illegal when all you have to do is read a small manual and pass a 35 question test. I guess you truckers would like an in flux of drivers that didn't take the CDL test and get a license driving. Oh what that is what most are calling Mexican drivers from Mexico. Look at it in those lights. 3's and 8's to you I'm gone Have a good day to both sides. |
Originally Posted by utvolsr1
Long time CB'er and skip talker from the mid 70's to early 80's. These post all started by someone letting the trucking drivers know about the FCC WATCHING the 10 meter bands and such. A lot of drivers hear all kind of talk about what is legal and what is not. Everyone is a trucking lawyer at least one time in his or her life. How many times have you been told something that the person said is the law and you did it to find out it was not and you could have been fine. Being glad you didn't get caught. We there is even more dumb CB'ers out there trying to be lawyers and telling young 20 year olds oh this is legal or they could not sell it to you or by from me it's legal. Whatever the reason some will not know. By just saying something is illegal is not enough. Someone will say well that is dumb why is that, at least 2 or 3 in a group of 10. OK they may not say it but think it. Some on here try to bring more info to make others better informed. This radio guy after reading his first post some bashed him from jump. A little known fact if I read it right is when you get your ham license you are also acting on behave of the FCC. Meaning if you knowingly let someone break the FCC law you too can lose your license and be find as well. The FCC use to administer all tests for a ham license now depending on the ham likewise level they are and do administer the test. Ham operators do help enforce ham laws or they can be punished as well.
I could really care less if a CB'er gets find $10,000 if he knew the law but some young adult not knowing and gets find $10,000 with a wife and kid/s thinking it is just a glorified walkie talkie and a no license sounds good enough to be true gets caught well I do mind then. To tell you the truth at this point I can not tell which one looks the stupidest or childish the one that keeps spouting rules or the one responding. I guess after 5 or 6 pages later you can't. :roll: I've been on the CB side for many years running illegal in the early days of my CBing and will possibly now but I am reading to get my ham license not to talk on different frequencies but to learn to make amps and run them legal on those bands. The reason I'm getting into the ham thing after all these years is to build something and then using it legally. Why do something illegal when all you have to do is read a small manual and pass a 35 question test. I guess you truckers would like an in flux of drivers that didn't take the CDL test and get a license driving. Oh what that is what most are calling Mexican drivers from Mexico. Look at it in those lights. 3's and 8's to you I'm gone Have a good day to both sides. |
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by utvolsr1
Long time CB'er and skip talker from the mid 70's to early 80's. These post all started by someone letting the trucking drivers know about the FCC WATCHING the 10 meter bands and such. A lot of drivers hear all kind of talk about what is legal and what is not. Everyone is a trucking lawyer at least one time in his or her life. How many times have you been told something that the person said is the law and you did it to find out it was not and you could have been fine. Being glad you didn't get caught. We there is even more dumb CB'ers out there trying to be lawyers and telling young 20 year olds oh this is legal or they could not sell it to you or by from me it's legal. Whatever the reason some will not know. By just saying something is illegal is not enough. Someone will say well that is dumb why is that, at least 2 or 3 in a group of 10. OK they may not say it but think it. Some on here try to bring more info to make others better informed. This radio guy after reading his first post some bashed him from jump. A little known fact if I read it right is when you get your ham license you are also acting on behave of the FCC. Meaning if you knowingly let someone break the FCC law you too can lose your license and be find as well. The FCC use to administer all tests for a ham license now depending on the ham likewise level they are and do administer the test. Ham operators do help enforce ham laws or they can be punished as well.
I could really care less if a CB'er gets find $10,000 if he knew the law but some young adult not knowing and gets find $10,000 with a wife and kid/s thinking it is just a glorified walkie talkie and a no license sounds good enough to be true gets caught well I do mind then. To tell you the truth at this point I can not tell which one looks the stupidest or childish the one that keeps spouting rules or the one responding. I guess after 5 or 6 pages later you can't. :roll: I've been on the CB side for many years running illegal in the early days of my CBing and will possibly now but I am reading to get my ham license not to talk on different frequencies but to learn to make amps and run them legal on those bands. The reason I'm getting into the ham thing after all these years is to build something and then using it legally. Why do something illegal when all you have to do is read a small manual and pass a 35 question test. I guess you truckers would like an in flux of drivers that didn't take the CDL test and get a license driving. Oh what that is what most are calling Mexican drivers from Mexico. Look at it in those lights. 3's and 8's to you I'm gone Have a good day to both sides. |
Originally Posted by Fredog
Originally Posted by utvolsr1
Long time CB'er and skip talker from the mid 70's to early 80's. These post all started by someone letting the trucking drivers know about the FCC WATCHING the 10 meter bands and such. A lot of drivers hear all kind of talk about what is legal and what is not. Everyone is a trucking lawyer at least one time in his or her life. How many times have you been told something that the person said is the law and you did it to find out it was not and you could have been fine. Being glad you didn't get caught. We there is even more dumb CB'ers out there trying to be lawyers and telling young 20 year olds oh this is legal or they could not sell it to you or by from me it's legal. Whatever the reason some will not know. By just saying something is illegal is not enough. Someone will say well that is dumb why is that, at least 2 or 3 in a group of 10. OK they may not say it but think it. Some on here try to bring more info to make others better informed. This radio guy after reading his first post some bashed him from jump. A little known fact if I read it right is when you get your ham license you are also acting on behave of the FCC. Meaning if you knowingly let someone break the FCC law you too can lose your license and be find as well. The FCC use to administer all tests for a ham license now depending on the ham likewise level they are and do administer the test. Ham operators do help enforce ham laws or they can be punished as well.
I could really care less if a CB'er gets find $10,000 if he knew the law but some young adult not knowing and gets find $10,000 with a wife and kid/s thinking it is just a glorified walkie talkie and a no license sounds good enough to be true gets caught well I do mind then. To tell you the truth at this point I can not tell which one looks the stupidest or childish the one that keeps spouting rules or the one responding. I guess after 5 or 6 pages later you can't. :roll: I've been on the CB side for many years running illegal in the early days of my CBing and will possibly now but I am reading to get my ham license not to talk on different frequencies but to learn to make amps and run them legal on those bands. The reason I'm getting into the ham thing after all these years is to build something and then using it legally. Why do something illegal when all you have to do is read a small manual and pass a 35 question test. I guess you truckers would like an in flux of drivers that didn't take the CDL test and get a license driving. Oh what that is what most are calling Mexican drivers from Mexico. Look at it in those lights. 3's and 8's to you I'm gone Have a good day to both sides. If you ignore his post and never fuel the fire it will go out. OK looks good on paper. LOL Like my bosses taught me never argue with an idiot everyone watching will not know the difference. About him adding anything more that might be a blessing. |
Originally Posted by kc0iv
I'd be interest in knowing what grounds A Texas D.O.T.officer could confiscate any radio other than a RADAR detector. Or any other D.O.T. officer. Last time I checked D.O.T.officers were state employee not Federal employees. And in many states their police powers is very limited. I haven't read or heard of the F.C.C. giving police powers to any other office. Maybe you could enlighten us as to where and where this occurred. To "peak and tune" a radio requires a F.C.C. General Radiotelephone Operator License which I have. I think you will find the majority of these shops do not have the required license. kc0iv "You are receiving this email in response to your inquiry to the FCC. During his term of office, President Clinton signed legislation that permits the enforcement of certain CB Radio regulations by state and local authorities. This is now known as PL 106-521. The law authorizes state and localities to enact ordinances prohibiting the use of unauthorized CB equipment - consistent with FCC rules. This includes the use of high-power linear amplifiers or equipment that is not FCC-certified. The Communications Act of 1934, as amended, Sec. 302(f)(1) [excerpt] . . . "a State or local government MAY ENACT A STATUTE OR ORDINANCE that prohibits a violation of the following regulations of the Commission under this section: ''(A) A regulation that prohibits a use of citizens band radio equipment not authorized by the Commission. '' (B) A regulation that prohibits the unauthorized operation of citizens band radio equipment on a frequency between 24 MHz and 35 MHz." [47 U.S.C. 302a] Rep Number : TSR44" Hope this answers the question that was asked by KC0IV, blame it on Clinton again! :D |
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Hope this answers the question that was asked by KC0IV, blame it on Clinton again! :D
be sure to read the parts written in RED. Near the middle of the page. Well I guess Clinton did do something right. :D kc0iv |
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Originally Posted by countryhorseman
Hope this answers the question that was asked by KC0IV, blame it on Clinton again! :D
be sure to read the parts written in RED. Near the middle of the page. Well I guess Clinton did do something right. :D kc0iv That's just IT! This "fight" is NOT over--not by a dadgum long shot! YES! It is taking a LONG time. There is currently no funding for FCC to do all they would LIKE to do! Don't think they don't WANT to do it; it's just that they must assign priorities in certain order, certain mandates from Congress must be met. The above legislation (of which some localities have taken advantage) was the result of a lot of effort. The truth is, CB radio has gotten out of hand, and the LACK of enforcement has permitted the outlandish practice of splattering amplifiers, so-called "freebanding", and, of course, the filching of the 10 Meter band with illegal radios. If you recall, prior to this law, CBers (and truckers) laughed and mocked, saying, "Why they'll NEVER do this!". 'They'll NEVER fine the sellers!" And, "They'll NEVER bother us CBers!" Yet this law DID come along. FCC DID fine dealers. They HAVE fined CB operators up to $10,000 for their illegal activities, and, yes, some of it has been for out-of-band operating! It is a slow process. Of course, I expect some of us here to ridicule ME; they were doing it BEFORE PL 106-521! But I told folks here and elsewhere it was coming. And it DID! Likewise, the FCC is still working on new sanctions in order to stop the sale of so-called "10 Meter" radios and the operation of them on illegal frequencies. I talked personally to FCC agents who have told me that the actions against outlaw CB operators will increase. Yes, they ARE working on BANS on the "10 Meter" radios AND ways to get local DOT agents involved LEGALLY to stem the flow of these things. After all, they banned radar detectors (not saying drivers don't have them on the sneak), they CAN ban the illegal "10 Meter" radios and set up FINES against drivers who use them. When that will come to pass, I don't know. I DO know that there are people working behind the scenes to get action taken to get CB radio under control. It is a matter of getting ALL the legal details nailed down so some jackleg lawyer can't beat them in court on a technicality. There WILL be things done about this. Just don't know when it will come about. Laugh, ridicule, have fun :) : It doesn't mean there aren't people working diligently behind the scenes to put a hurt on the dealers AND the users of illegal radios. It is a matter of the outlaw radio users who believe they have "rights" to talk on 'them there channels" versus the legitimate, authorized, licensed users of spectrum. Right vs wrong. Right usually prevails. When it doesn't, we ALL suffer, for when the forces of evil (and the theft of radio spectrum is as much a crime as as any other because it creates a problem for other users) win, we suffer a breakdown in moral fiber and character. Each successive "win" for that which is WRONG, eats away at the foundations of law that sustain us and damages society. This curious "theft" of radio resources (which mostly only occurs within the ranks of CB and it's 'outlaw" culture") is the equivilent of someone physically entering YOUR home and taking your groceries, or your money. The outlaw CBer sees this as "harmless" and "I ain't hurtin' anything" when, in fact, he IS taking something from someone else! This is why the above law was passed, this is why there people quietly trying their best to bust up the outlaw's playhouse. We trust that, like PL-106-521, those behind-the-scenes efforts will bear fruit! I believe they WILL; it just isn't happening as fast as we'd like! RR |
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Get yourself a girl, mate. |
RR, I was trying to resolve the issue and put the facts behind it! That last post was un-needed and slightly childish. I hate to say that, as you had a valid point, but now it is time to let it rest.
It is an issue I strongly feel needs more control, but this forum is unfortunately not the place. And even the State and Local governments are shorthanded and funds. Let's let this one rest, and get the backing to fight it on another playing field. The Horseman |
Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
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Get yourself a girl, mate. |
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