drug test and SAP
 

I failed a drug test but I am going threw the SAP program will any trucking companies hire me after I get done with the SAP program?

Re: drug test and SAP
 

It may take a year or two after you completed the SAP program before any company will look at you, but that is better than never if you don't complete it.

Most companies, however, have a zero-tolerance policy.

Re: drug test and SAP
 

hopefully not :!:

Sorry but co.,s do not care about the sap program, as a matter of fact I don't know exactly who the sap program is for. Definitely not the employer so it is to show that a individual has gone thru a rehab program, whether they are rehabed or not they have documentation stating they wen't thru a rehab. Truly I would like to know someone who has been hired with sap paper work. When you present they papers the co. now knows you had a drug issue and they will not take a chance on you and above all the insurance carriers will not insure you. This does not mean you cannot get a trucking job just not by any major carriers or not by a dac subscribing co. Now, head up, eyes open believe in yourself and leave drugs alone; good luck.

The SAP program is part of the FMCSA regs and is required after a failed drug test if a driver is to have any hopes of driving again.

Granted, many companies will not want anything to do with someone if they have failed a drug test, especially for the first few years afterwards, but there are some, especially the smaller ones, who are willing to give a driver a chance.

I will say this though. I think drug test results should be made available for lifetime. This way companies will know for certain what they are getting into when it comes to hiring a driver.

How did this happen? I can understand going to a drug test and not being able to urinate at that moment. But, I would wait however long it takes and do whatever to give them my sample. I wouldn't jeopardize my job and career because I had trouble urinating.

I don't disbelieve you at all about your NOT using drugs, but how did you get a refused test? Does the drug testing lab only give so much time? Was it a reasonable amount of time(eg. 2-4 hours, but not 24 hours!)?

I have been drug tested many times and I haven't had this problem. I do know that it can happen, but how much time were you giving?

Thanks,

I have been offered a job with C.W. Johnson Xpress when I get done with the SAP program

Two things happened. 1) I had just taken a leak less than 10 minutes before I was notified of the random drug test. The testing location is less than 1 1/2 miles from the terminal. 2) I have an enlarged prostate which causes me to have problems urinating. In my case it was more than 12 hours before I had to go again after the random.

I was given 2 hours for the complete time I was at the testing lab.

At the end of the 2 hours I was given the options to give a FULL sample. Failing to give a full sample I was declared -- Refused test. The MRO refused to accept my condition since I had not seen a doctor for over six months. Even after the Doctor advised him of my condition. I had contacted my doctor and he even took a blood test less than 48 hours after the clinic declared me -- refused to test. But the MRO will not accept a blood test for a drug test.

What was bad is I had just taken a random less than 2 weeks before. But since it was a new month my number came up again. Wasn't I lucky.

I was like you I had away been able to pass the drug test before. But this time I couldn't give the sample in the allot time.

As far as doing drugs. I have never used drugs. Drugs use when I was growing up didn't occur. I graduated in 1963. At least not in the towns I grew up in. Let me put it this way I was a junior in high school before I went to a school with more than 150 students in the whole school.

It is all history now. I retired over 2 years ago.


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I am surprised they would not accept a blood test in lieu of a urine test. It seems to me as though you did everything you could to comply with their wishes.

Kaycee: Not that it matters anymore, but check out part 40.191 and furhter.

The MRO acted irresponsibly, and owes you $600 bucks for the classes!

The whole medical industry is the culprits. They 'try' to show their worth by invalidating candidates with no other supporting evidence based soley on 'procedural rules' made in part by the doctors and/or their lobbyists themselves.

Doctors don't help people get well, since lose money that way. The drug test industry with 'procedural rules' influenced by doctors themselves, is a scam. Sure they filter some drivers who just go to smaller companies, but the 'procedural rules' are what disqualifies a significant portion of innocent drivers and NOT the positive tests.

Hitler was big on zero tolerance policies too I believe.

The problem lies with the PILL POPPING society that we live in and have lived in since the 60's. We as a society want instant gratification and to make the symptoms to go away, if one doctor will not give us the satisfaction and stuff pretty pills down our throats, then we will go to another doctor who will. The enemy is again, society who eat junk, don't care of themselves until they are truly ill and then want the doctor to cure them in minutes.. after all there's an important show on TV they might miss.