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-   -   HOS changes announcd today might mean no more 34 hr restart (https://www.classadrivers.com/forum/rules-regulations-dac-oh-my/28497-hos-changes-announcd-today-might-mean-no-more-34-hr-restart.html)

neverbeenlate 07-25-2007 03:38 AM

I think they should keep the 34 hour restart and go back to the drive 10 hours a 8 hour break and bring back the split sleeper. I never made more money than when we had those rules. I was just as rested and my options on driving were more open.

Jackrabbit379 07-25-2007 03:59 AM

So, if they eliminate the 11-hour driving limit, what does that mean? Are they going to lower the driving hours, or give drivers more driving hours? If they eliminate the 11-hour driving limit, I guess that means that drivers can drive as long as they want to. :P

If they knock out the restart, there will be a lot of guys running out of hours all the time. :?

VitoCorleone99 07-25-2007 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
So, if they eliminate the 11-hour driving limit, what does that mean? Are they going to lower the driving hours, or give drivers more driving hours? If they eliminate the 11-hour driving limit, I guess that means that drivers can drive as long as they want to. :P

If they knock out the restart, there will be a lot of guys running out of hours all the time. :?

The change from 10 to 11 was ruled illegal, based not on any merit but on the procedure they used to implement it. I guess the assumption would be that it would go back to 10.

The weird thing is that they are making the FMCSA revisit these rules because they didn't allow for public comment on the statistical models used. Then, in the same breath, they refused to force them to revisit the sleeper berth provision, even though they failed to provide an opportunity for public comment on that as well. Essentially, the trucking lobby is getting whipped by the "safety" lobby.

If you have trouble sleeping at night, enjoy the actual legal opinion entered by the court. :?

Jackrabbit379 07-25-2007 04:41 AM

It's gonna be interesting to see what happens

Malaki86 07-25-2007 05:56 AM

Looks like it's time to find a local gig...

yoopr 07-25-2007 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Malaki86
Looks like it's time to find a local gig...

If it goes down like I'm guessing it might you're gonna be in a long line I'm afraid.

Yanke_driver 07-25-2007 02:16 PM

kinda pathetic that you hear so much about driver shortages and the staggering turnover rate, but the gov is doing a great job of driving away newcomers to this industry, at the same time making experienced drivers pull the pin on this business. Am i the only one who thinks they are tryng to drive the owner op's out of business to acomodate the "mega fleets" ? I really am starting to question my future in otr, and may have to look into a local HOURLY paying job.

Ridge Runner 07-25-2007 06:21 PM

Just a thought. Maybe run a few more of us out to show why they need to bring in the Mexican drivers to "fill the gap". ???

mike3fan 07-26-2007 01:17 AM

Does any one remember that we seemed to get the job done with the old 10 on 8 off 70/8 rules?

Has it made it easier with the 11 hr driving time and 34hr reset? Yes of course and other than the split sleeper berth mess it seems to be a much better system.And as far as I am concerned I have benefited from it,maybe that is the problem that it allows the small guy an oppurtunity to compete on some level.

I also all along thought that the new rules were too good to be true,I mean getting that 34hr reset is like a god send that second week of hard running in a row.And we all know that the government and or saftey groups are not gonna let us have our cake and eat it too.

Why don't they just get it over with and install black boxes on all the trucks and then they will have us right where they want us completly under thier watchful eye at all times and then they will have such a shortage of drivers that they will be begging the Mexican drivers to come pull the freight(cheaply) for them.

greg3564 07-26-2007 06:01 AM

The whole HOS thing is way more complicated than it really needs to be. It just needs to be cut and dry and completely simplified. But then again this is the government we're talking about.


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