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Dawn 11-20-2006 01:48 AM

It was said that "False Logs" couldn't get you in
 
Question from Dawn on 11/11/06:
IF a driver is in an accident and death occurs, and the only thing found wrong with the driver was false logs could he be held accountable for the accident? What would the charges be?
2) If the accident occurs injury: What would happen? Example: Taylor University accident (Indiana. It seems the reports are basing the accident on the fact he was false on his logs.
Many drivers out there are under the impression that log books are not a factor in being charged / responsible for the accident. I have always been under the impression the log book is a BIG FACTOR and you can be held accountable! Which is what I preach to my drivers to get them to understand why they must run legal for their "own" protection. I would appreciate any feed back on this.



Answer under FMCSA (Federal) law as of 11/19/06:




Dawn,

This is a very good question.

There are 2 factors that are looked at when a truck driver is involved in a crash.

The first one has to do with criminal charges.

If the Law Enforcement Agency investigating the crash finds evidence of criminal wrong doing, then driver can be charged with a criminal offense. These charges can range from being issued a citation to being charged with murder. It will all be based on the facts found during the investigation. Law Enforcement will look at all the evidence available at the scene as well as all evidence back at the trucking company.

The second factor looked at has to do with civil.

In today's society, people are all looking to get something for nothing. That is why our society is lawsuit happy. It doesn't make a difference whether the truck driver or the trucking company was in the wrong. Lawyers know that trucking companies are required to carry large amounts of insurance. So as a results of this, lawyers are quick to sue the trucking companies because they know that the insurance companies will settle because it cheaper to do this than contest the suit.
Now this is where it gets real interesting. If during the investigation of the crash by the lawyers for the plaintiff's, they find anything wrong, the amount being sued just went way up. Some examples of this would be; the driver was found with a false log book, violated the Hour of Service (driving to many hours or not enough rest), or they found equipment violations that contributed to the crash (such as brakes being out of adjustment). These are also factors that will be looked at during the criminal investigation.

A driver needs to understand that their actions, or lack of, will be looked at under a microscope if they are involved in a crash. So drivers need to be totally in the right when involved in a crash, regardless of whose fault the crash was.

If they are in the wrong, then the driver could face criminal charges as well as a big civil lawsuit.





Thanks for the question. Hope this helps.



Sr. Trooper Monty Dial
Texas Highway Patrol
Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Division
Garland, TX 75043

Rev.Vassago 11-20-2006 02:40 AM

Your point?

greg3564 11-20-2006 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Your point?

That she just won't go away. :?

ben45750 11-20-2006 10:54 PM

Could you imagine going thru life with the name Monte Dial?

classicxl 11-20-2006 11:16 PM

I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

Useless 11-20-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by classicxl
I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

I think she/he just made it up; strange how the "Sr. Trooper's" writing style is amazingly similar to that of "Dawn"!!

Equally curious is that he uses the term "Texas Highway Patrol" rather than "State of Texas, Dept. of Public Safety"!!

Dawn 11-20-2006 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by classicxl
I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

I doubt he really cares since what he sent was the truth and he knew that I had a driver who did not believe me!
:lol:

Dawn 11-20-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless
Quote:

Originally Posted by classicxl
I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

I think she/he just made it up; strange how the "Sr. Trooper's" writing style is amazingly similar to that of "Dawn"!!

Equally curious is that he uses the term "Texas Highway Patrol" rather than "State of Texas, Dept. of Public Safety"!!

Because I uh copied and pasted it! You really do not think I am going to e-mail this to anyone do you? l.o.l. I don't think I like to make up stories!
So believe if you would like, again I just hope you understand what your case will be if or whoever chooses to run illegal, if you want to run illegal hey go for it that is your prerogative :lol:

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT

Useless 11-20-2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicxl
I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

Dawn:

I doubt he really cares since what he sent was the truth and he knew that I had a driver who did not believe me!
:lol:[/quote]


I doubt it even more, because this "Sr. Trooper" exists only in the mind of our local "expert "Dawn" :P

yoopr 11-20-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless
Quote:

Originally Posted by classicxl
I hope you informed this trooper you would be posting his letter name and information on a public website

I think she/he just made it up; strange how the "Sr. Trooper's" writing style is amazingly similar to that of "Dawn"!!

Equally curious is that he uses the term "Texas Highway Patrol" rather than "State of Texas, Dept. of Public Safety"!!

It read odd to me also but what do I know :P


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