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rollonbc 10-04-2006 06:12 AM

Do you know about Canada and Alaska?
 
What is required to take a load thru Canada to Alaska as far as permits, bonds ect......

Sealord 10-05-2006 03:01 AM

Provinces
 
Why don't you contact the Canadian provinces you'll go thru and ask 'em. I think their numbers are in the Canadian section of the RMMCA. There's a Canadian lady driver who posts here, she may know, or go to the O/O Forum and see if someone there knows. BOL

rollonbc 10-05-2006 03:23 AM

I've called so many offices in Alaska and Canada and still dont have any straight answers. I was thinking someone else has gone through this and can at least point me to the right person or #

10-05-2006 04:25 AM

I would be interested in knowing also when you find out. I know that they are stricter on load securement and in 2010 they have new laws regarding how chains and straps have to be marked with there grade.

yoopr 10-05-2006 04:56 AM

This will help you a bit.

http://www.speedingticketcentral.com/Canada.html

Porchclimber 10-28-2006 03:01 PM

Hi, I saw your post and thought I'd give you a few links that's help you.
Here goes:

British Columbia
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/permits.htm

Saskatchewan
http://www.highways.gov.sk.ca/

Alberta
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/

Yukon
http://www.gov.yk.ca/transportation/

Alaska
http://www.dot.state.ak.us/

BC Regulations (this'll keep you confused)
http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/...0_78/30_78.htm

Bit of helpful info
http://www.ctea.on.ca

Canada Border Services Info
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/menu-e.html

BC Highway Cams
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/bchighwaycam/index.aspx

Esso Key to the Highway
http://map.essostations.ca/locator.a...028200665229PM

PetroPass LOcations
http://www.online.petro-canada.ca/en...ch.asp?prov=NS

New Canadian Hours of Service effective Jan/o1/2007
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFT...on/New_HOS.pdf

The cardlock links will be handy because many of the Esoo and PetroPass locations will take a US Comdata card.
If not just about anybody will take Visa or Mastercard but the cardlocks are cheaper and are accessible 7/24 and a lot of them have showers.
The exchange rate right now is about 89 cents per US dollar.
If you use a credit card you will be given the exact exchange rate which I recommend doing.
Most people are fair but some will try to screw you if you use cash.
Flying J has now taken over several Shell Cardlock site so check their website too.
You'll have less headaches if your truck wheelbase is less than 244 inches.
Although you can permit an extra length tractor now in some provinces.
I have a 265 wheelbase Peterbilt that is permitted in BC for the extra length but my miles are only from Vancouver to the border (20 miles) and I can't say for sure if that covers all BC although I'm pretty sure it does.
I would personally phone some of the weigh stations in each province (depending on where you intend to cross into Canada) and get it right from them.
Never talk to the monkey always talk to the organ grinder.
If you're going to Alaska you should be able to run on an intransit manifest through Canada (doublecheck me but I think you can)
Your truck should be in good shape and you need to feel comfortable that it can pass a CVSA inspection (it should be anyhow).
The same CVSA rules apply in Canada as in the US with the exception of the hours of service (check link) I think the 120/14 will work best for you.
You can run Canadian hours while in Canada. To switch to the 120 you need 24 hours off between your 0 and 75hr. It can be for example 2pm to 2 pm as long as it's 24 hrs then you're good to go on the 120.
Heads up though if you run it going back home to the US, you should make sure you get your 34 hour reset.
The roads into Alaska are pretty good and in fact in a lot of places they're smoother than most interstates.
You should be comfortable running in hills, the grades here are a lot longer and steeper than in the US.
Just watch the signs and use your head and don't be afraid to ask somebody any question.
Everybody will help you.
Your tires should be in good shape because if there's any construction those sharp rocks will cut a tire quick.
Carry a spare(s) on the truck or trailer not in it because your trailer will get sealed at the border if intransit and Customs might PMS about it.
There's lots of places to park and truckers are always welcome especially at the year round places.
Weather after May should be pretty good with lots of daylight especially later into the summer.
This is some of the most beautiful countryside in the world.
I live here and lots of times I stop and look around.
Heads up for the critters. Moose can do a lot of damage as well as wild horses in some parts of northern BC (don't see too many of them anymore)and the bears are antisocial.
Basically if your truck is 244 or less there's no problems. There are some grandfather clauses on older trucks but check first. Weights aren't an issue because Canadian weights are higher than the US.
Spreadaxle=NO
Sliding spread=yes.
They are being a little more tolerant on spreadaxles now but be sure and check all jurisdictions first.
It's a lot less headaches for you if you don't have one.
If you aren't familiar with the metric system I recommend a metric conversion calculator from Office Depot for 6.99.
Eg 34,000 lbs equals 15420 kg for your axle weights.
Pay attention to the permit prices for the Yukon and AK.
I think the permit price for Alaska is about the same price as buying a full plate.
Pay attention to the fuel tax for the Yukon.
I used to run from Alabama to Dawson City in the Yukon when I had my truck on Landstar.
I hope this info helps.
Basically if you come out of the East the first actual hill is at Taylor BC (Dawson Creek) which is Mile 0 ) of the Alaska Highway.
If you cross into BC and come up 97 and over to Cache Creek you're going to be in the hills.
BC has mandatory brake checks (white sign that says all trucks check brakes) that that you get out of your truck and inspect your brakes (visual) and then log that brake check in your log book.
I just flag it and mark BC (brake check) but it's 250.00 if you don't.
I hope this info helps but basically if your truck and trailer are in good shape and you use you head you won't have a bit of trouble.

Porchclimber 10-28-2006 03:09 PM

I forgot to add that there is something to that thing about the chain grade and rating needs to be on chains and straps but I pull a van now so I'm not sure of the whys and the wherefores of it.
That's a good question to ask them if you call any of those government sites.
I see some of them have 800 numbers so if they work from the US I'd use their nickel because if you don't they'll sure take yours.

Porchclimber 10-28-2006 03:35 PM

Here's a BC link to the scales in BC with and 800 number that should work from the US.

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/CVSE/inspect...ation_info.htm

By the way never cross a BC scale before getting a permit.
Park first to the side then walk in but a lot of the permits can be got by phone.

I am not at the computer a lot but if you have a particular route that you would take I can give you better advice from there if you post a question and I see it.
Ie: Coming out of the East it's a lot shorter and faster to cross into Canada at Pembina, ND/ Emerson,MB and then take the Yellowhead Highway into Alberta No real hills until Taylor,BC vs crossing at Pac Hwy (Surrey,BC/Blaine,WA ) where you will have the pleasure of Vancouver traffic (not) lots of hills heading North and lots of scales although it sure is pretty country.
The Fraser Canyon( Trans Canada Hwy) will make a truck driver out of you in a hurry although you have to dodge the New Canadians with the lumber SuperBees.

wot i life 10-29-2006 07:53 AM

Re: Do you know about Canada and Alaska?
 

Originally Posted by rollonbc
What is required to take a load thru Canada to Alaska

It helps if you have a big shiny truck with lots of wheels and things.... but I,ve heard tales of Chinese fellows who move everything around on bicycles :shock: :lol:

Porchclimber 10-29-2006 08:18 AM

If you think you're being funny you aren't.
There are many people from all over the world that go across Canada to Alaska.
We and Alaska have some of the most beautiful country in the world.
You couldn't pay me to live anywhere else.
With some Canadian weights and length laws being different from the US it only makes sense to plan ahead.
Different states have different laws.
I always appreciate when I ask somebody and I get a straight answer.
I imagine it's guys like you that tell people to buy a map if somebody asks directions.
I am like the guys here that ask questions ahead of time because I prefer to plan ahead and know what I'm up against.
Rules and regulations are changing fast enough as it is when you know where to go for information never mind when you're unsure.
Too many times I've been at the border when American truckers haven't had the proper paperwork because someone told them "it's at the border".
What part of planning ahead doesn't make sense to you.
I just gave some good links to answer a lot of questions that some people ask.
Where in there did you see an open invitation to badmouth anybody.
I logged on because I saw a bit of misinformation in some links and posted more current info.
I have better things to do than to try and help somebody with information and get badmouthed in the process.
Your board is yours again.
I have better things to do.


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