What you're saying is Deja Vu all over again when we had the Damned 55 mph speed limit in the 80's and we said the Exact same thing then.

Once they get these speed limiters in all trucks it is only a matter of time before they lower the maximum speed back to 55. They want to put speed limiters on all trucks so that they can run into Canada without having a problem. Ontario apparently wants to force all who travel their roads to have speed limiters. So, the ATA wants the entire industry to pay for their cost of doing business in Canada.

So block Canada :P
Like I said-Insurance companies and Lawyers have taken over ATA and that's the reason for this BS.

Well now, I'll go along with this governing bussiness as long as <u>all</u> vehicles are governed to the same speed, trucks, 4 wheelers, mopeds, etc. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander?

Be clear that it is the Province of Ontario ONLY that wants these speed limiters.
The large rate cutting companies from Ontario that can't get anybody to work for them want to get everybody underneath the rock with them.
FYI Schneider National bases 500 (?) trucks out of Ontario and as such they are part of the petition to the Ontatrio government.
Canada is a large country and Ontario is 3000 miles East of here.
For many reasons other than speed limiters I would be quite happy to see a large fence around that place and Quebec.
Ontario is a sewer on a good day.
Ontario can't manage their own problems so they blame them on everybody else.
With any kind of luck their speedlimiter BS will blow up in their face and their precious auto plants will move to the US because of lack of service.
Blame Ontario (and Quebec because they're in on it too) all you want because they deserve every bit of it and then some but the rest of us have no part in their BS. The CTA who claim to represent Canadian truckers supports their position and OOIDA supports CTA.
Go figure.
I have called those losers at the CTA and told them many times that they don't represent me or anybody I know.
They're just a bunch of people that couldn't get a job doing anything else so they bottomfeed off the trucking industry.
The Province of Ontario and the CTA can go take a flying f@*! at themselves. :evil:
They speak only for themselves. :!: :!: :!:

LMAO Porchclimber-Right on

Here's a cut and paste from Highway Star a Canadian trucking magazine of some info on these so called speed limiters.

Seems to me that what the ATA are telling people is not the same as what they are telling other people.

As Follows:

ATA officially backs speed limiters; O-Os say plan an assault on small biz
10/20/2006
ALEXANDRIA, Va. - American trucking companies wanting speed limiter legislation enacted in the U.S. now have clear support from the largest for-hire carrier lobbying group in North America.

The American Trucking Associations just wrapped up a press conference in which the group pledged it will petition the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to limit the maximum speed of large trucks to no more than 68 miles per hour. The ATA is also lobbying the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration to prohibit the tampering or adjustment of those microchip devices in the truck's ECM -- known as speed limiters (or governors).

"For the sake of safety, there is a need to slow down all traffic," said ATA President and CEO Bill Graves. "The trucking industry is trying to do its part with this initiative. No vehicle should be capable of operating at excessive speeds on our nation's highways."

The announcement comes two weeks after a group of large ATA-member carriers - including Schneider National, J.B. Hunt Transport Inc., and CR England -- joined public safety interest group Road Safe America in calling for a U.S. speed limiter mandate.

The ATA has changed its tune from when it said
it would only endorse voluntary speed limiters
The speed limiter idea was originally borne north of the border where the Ontario Trucking Association first unveiled its speed limiter proposal in the fall of 2005. It promised at the time to export its idea across Canada and the U.S. in order to maintain uniform enforcement.

So far it seems to be working. Not only has the powerful ATA jumped on board, but a Canadian speed limiter rule is also currently making its way up legislative ladders in Ontario and Quebec. In a recent interview with Today's Trucking, OTA President called the progress on both sides of the border "encouraging."

The ATA, however, is sending a different signal than it did earlier this year, when, unlike its Canadian counterpart, it said it would not pursue a legislative mandate, but would instead encourage OEMs to voluntarily limit the maximum speed of large trucks, at the time of manufacture, to no more than 68 mph. The customer, then, would have the option of requesting a higher setting, an ATA spokesman confirmed at the time.

Now the group insists its amended policy is a matter of highway safety.

"The federal government's lack of focus on speed in crashes involving large trucks represents a significant gap in its truck safety strategy," said Graves. "The majority of the federal truck safety budget is focused on ensuring safe equipment, driver fatigue and preventing impaired driving, which the industry supports. Research indicates, however, that speed is a more significant factor in crashes involving trucks than any other factor that currently receives a larger proportion of government attention and resources."

But the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) isn't buying the safety angle. It's about economics, says the group's executive vice-president.

"These petitions are intended to be a Trojan horse for the true objectives of big trucking companies -- doing away with current truck size and weight restrictions as well as increasing their importation of cheap, less qualified foreign drivers," Todd Spencer stated in a press release. "They are aimed at limiting competition from the small trucking companies that make up the vast majority of the industry.

"It is no secret that large trucking corporations want to maximize their profits by opening all national highways to heavier trucks as well as double and triple trailer combinations," he continues. "Those folks also wish to pad their bottom lines by bringing in exploitable foreign labor instead of paying appropriate wages to American citizens."

A fact ignored by these petitions, says Spencer, is that reduced speed promotes safety only if all vehicles are moving at those same reduced speeds. Currently, 30 U.S. states have speed limits of 70 mph or higher on interstate highways. "Ironically, should these petitions come to fruition, America's roads will become much more dangerous to motorists and truckers alike."

In fact several studies cited by OOIDA and its Canadian counterpart OBAC (Owner-operator Business Association of Canada), show that a wide speed differential between cars and trucks would likely cause more highway accidents.

Both groups say speeding truckers are a minority on North American highways and they emphatically urge governments to step-up enforcement of traffic laws already on the books to keep speeding truckers and motorists off the roads.

"Technology cannot take the place of a well-trained driver," says Spencer. "If the big trucking corporations were honestly interested in promoting safety, they would be petitioning for a requirement for comprehensive training for all new truck drivers."


The little bit of foot in mouth disease by the ATA that I note in that article is that they want OEM's to manufacture trucks with speed limiters installed at build time with the option of the purchaser having the limit on the speed increased at the factory.

Well how about those spineless pussies in the ATA just go ahead and order their trucks with the speed limiters installed on them and then go on about their business.

It a distressing thought when American and Canadian legislators look to the CEO's of companies that cannot even run their own business properly for advice on how to run North American highways.

The part that gets me so angry here is the losers in Ontario that want to drag everybody through their bulls*it.
If they want to limit speeds on trucks inOntario then go for .
Tough that's what you get for living in that sewer then.
As for me, I don't go to Ontario in a truck, car,boat,plane bus, bicycle,train or rollerblade so I really don't care what they do.
If they can't control the politicians they claim to elect then too damn bad for them.
In fact most people in Ontario are still learning to speak English and it's been noted that their turbans get a speed wobble over 67 MPH.
Maybe the world would be better of if everybody just boycotted Ontario but that's just what those losers in the CTA and the ATA want.
They can't compete with good management and properly trained drivers so they want to turn everybody else into the eunuchs that they are.
The only good thing that ever came out of Ontario or Quebec is an empty bus.

Here's a number for website for the Ontario Suckers Association with an email address and 800 number.

Why not let them know what you think of them:

www.ontruck.org

Here's on for the taberknackers in Quebec but they're still looking around for someone that speaks English.

Oh well, I just bet that someone that reads email can understand English.

http://www.carrefour-acq.org/fr/index.cfm

And then here's the so called representatives of the Canadian Trucking Association.

www.cantruck.com


Those losers in Ontario and Quebec are so full of themselves they think they speak for all.

The day we in the western part of Canada, which is the part of the country that actually pays the bills so that garbage in the East can sit around and dream up their BS, can finally separate from those losers in the East is going to be one happy day.

Go ahead and let those losers see what you think.
Those three organizations are to blame for all the speed limiter crap and then the ATA is so useless the best they can do is follow these losers.

You can be sure the aftermarket will respond with a "piggy back black box that disables the OEM speed limiter device." 8)

You'll also note that on the so called "Canadian" Trucking Association website they and their member from Ontario and Quebec, you know the same one's that want everybody else down in the sewer with them, want to change cabotage laws so that their members can interstate in the US.
Do you want these ratecutting scabs running around hauling freight point to point in the US.
They've screwed domestic freight rates in Canada now as it is.
The only place these losers can hire drivers from is Britain, Poland, Russia and India and Pakistan.
No wonder the trucking industry has gone into the sewer with sewer dwellers like these people trying to manipulate things.

Send their website to your congressman and let them see what these guys are really up to.

"You can be sure the aftermarket will respond with a "piggy back black box that disables the OEM speed limiter device."

I'm sure that it will, but the point is if we make sure that law isn't there in the first place there will be no need to.

I'm sure you noticed that they want to make "tampering or altering" the unit an offence so you can bet that it will be big points on your CDL.
You can bet those slimeballs have got that covered already.

The last thing these people are concerned with is safety.

If it in fact was safety then they would be paying more money to attract responsible people and they would be maintaining their equipment.

When you see a trailer that belongs to some of these clowns just have a bit of a closer look at it.

Most of them should be OOS but the assumption is that because they are a large company they maintain their equipment properly.

I get dizzy behind some of these clowns on the road if I end up behind them they swerve around so much, maybe the swerving has something to do with the mileage pay.

I only have one truck and trailer both of which are new this year but I have between 3 and a half to 4 million miles safe driving with no accidents and tickets.
Half of those miles have been hauling hanging beef, originally in A trains between Calgary and Vancouver and then tridems East.
I now do door to door LTL which I have done now for the last 10 years.
The only time my spidey senses get tingling is when I'm around some truck belonging to some of the larger wheelholder fleets.

So, I take it that you are against mandated speed limiters? :wink: :P

Tell us how you REALLY feel PorchClimber :P
I KNOW you're not Originally from BC are you? I'm guessing Ab or Sask :P

You're right.
I was born in High River, Alberta and lived in Calgary until 1998.
I now live on the Sunshine Coast in BC.
Alberta is still be best place in the world to be for all kinds of reasons but my family wants to be here so here I am.
This is some of the most beautiful country in the world but it's kinda hard to put up with the tree huggers and the "New Canadians"
I don't know if others are aware but those clowns in the East want their speedlimiter BS to apply everywhere, not only just in Ontario and the US.
I think I've made myself quite clear when I say I don't care what they do in their own backyard but when they try shoving their BS our way then it's a different matter altogether.
Anybody that knows Canadian politics knows how that bunch in the East is always trying to stick their crap on us in the West.
They're going to keep it up until we finally have enough of them and tell them to park their BS where the sun doesn't shine and I don't mean Toronto.

LMAO-I knew it-I'm so smart :P
Pretty easy to guess-One of my best buddies Lives is Sask. and Western Canada pretty much detests Eastern Canada
High River is up by Peace River country isn't it? I used to run up to NWT and Peace River area quite a bit.
What the deal, and this is just coming from a U.S citizen so take it for what it's worth, the problem that began with the Canadian Trucking industry was when all the Immigrants came in from India and cause ALOT of Fatalities in Ontario and areas around there.

PS-When I said I bet you weren't originally from BC take that as a compliment. Ab, Manitoba, and Sask. are great people. I know some Native BC'rs who live in Penticton and Nelson and they're good people. And of Course Rocky who never comes on here anymore :P

No, you're thinking of High Level close to the Alberta/NWT border.
A place you don't want to be in the wintertime.
50 below sometimes can be considered a balmy day.
High River is just South of Calgary about 35 miles.

The trouble with Vancouver is everybody from all over the world is moving there and in my opinion is probably is about the worst city in North America to drive in with all the traffic and congestion.
You haven't even had any excitement in your life until you have to go downtown with a 53 ft trailer.

I especially get mad about the so called driver shortage here and importing "truck drivers" to fill seats.

Some of these "drivers" they get could care less about image or reputation and give everybody a bad name no matter what country you're from.

It's because of people like that who cause a lot of extra undeserved focus on the trucking industry such as the so called speed limiters.

If you think some of those characters from other countries get performing in the US you should see them in Canada where there aren't as many cops and DOT around.
You wouldn't believe some of the stunts they pull off.
A friend of mine runs a safety consulting business for trucking companies so I've had the pleasure of reading some of their accident reports that'll put you on the floor laughing not to mention some of the one's I've personally witnessed.
The scariest one (for the driver) was in the Fraser Canyon where you need to pay attention to what you're doing.
One clown going westbound laid a truck and trailer on it's side going through China Bar Tunnel where an Eastbound truck was.
It was so close that the eastbound truck had skidmarks all down the side of the van where the truck on it's side skidded alongside him.
It's Russian Roulette meeting somebody on a blind corner.
Yet somehow these large companies have managed to convince people in the government that there is a driver shotage and without foreign drivers we're all doomed.
I know plenty of companies that run top notch equipment and pay damn good money and also treat you right that never have to advertise for drivers and they get their pick of who they want.
The biggest laugh though is those people in Ontario.
I imagine you've been on the 401 so you know how they all drive.
In fairness I have to say that some of those trucks on that 401 do get out of hand but when the cars are all going 140 (90 mph) of course a truck is going to be slower even if it's doing 120 (76 mph) which a lot of them do.
Bottom line there is that there's too much traffic and not enough roads so their invent their speed limiter scam.
I know for a fact that when and if they come in with their speed limiter BS that you'll see all trucks there restricted to a single lane.
But like I said I never go there so I care less what they do but when they try to export their baggage onto other people and places then they need to be stopped.
The larger companies in Canada already govern a lot of their equipment at 68 MPH already so these speed limiters are a moot point except they think they need to handicap the competition.
In my case I could care less because I don't do trailer load freight very often so I wouldn't want to have anything to do with their so called customers anyhow.
If I had a choice of something to be forced on anybody I would like to see on board recorders because then for sure everybody will be on the same field.
Those larger carriers will get splashed with the same crap as everybody else when the crap hits the fan.
They'll be forced to pay everyone by the hour because they won't be able to hire anyone who will work by the mile.
It's like JB and Schneider with their dedicated local and short haul freight.
When they try to pay you on short haul by the mile just bend over because somebody is going to get screwed.
If they wanted to get lots of drivers then just pay a fair wage and by fair I mean $25.00 per hour or more with full days and they have people lining up at their door.
I used JB and Schneider as examples but they're all just as guilty.

My truck has 3:70 rear ends with and 18B trans with a Cummins ISX 565 so I can run 75 all day long but I usually don't.
In fact lots of times I run 68 or less for fuel mileage but I can do that without somebody telling me to or trying to force their shortcomings on me or anyone else.
JB tried his "perfect storm" crap with the original hours of service changes but when the came in with the 8/2 provisions he realized he can't have everybody that works for him sitting around for free because sooner or later when his drivers sit around that long they get time to think and that's the last thing anybody wants a driver to do is think.

I imagine you've been on the 401

I used to run the QEW quite a bit and that's when all the Foreign "Truck Drivers" were killing everybody on the Road. Used to go to Mississauga(sp) to the Big whse. area. What fun :P
I remember when I used to run Northern Canada quite a bit when you guys didn't even have to have a log book.
When I ran up to the Peace River area Calgary was growing so fast that it seemed the Route changed every time you went through it. It was BOOMING. I'm guessing it's booming again eh?
I hauled quite a bit of Wild Oat(?) killer up there and the people were unbelievably friendly. One time I delivered to a Farmer out in the Middle of the Bush and he told me to back up to his little dock at his barn and Told his wife to draw a Bath for me and then had me eat supper with them. That was Great but then again I pretty much ran non-stop from Muskogee, OK to there with little rest time at Sweetgrass Customs :P
Good ole days lmao

You wouldn't recognize Calgary now.
All of Alberta is booming and I want to move back there in the worst way.
maybe a couple more years of whining and then I will.
My wife can retire then with a nice big fat pension and I'll sell my truck and go drive in the oilfield.
I've been offered some pretty good jobs.
I don't mind what I do and the money is good but you have to be pretty thick skinned at times.
There are just too many rules and regs now made by people with ulterior motives.
I like doing LTL though, I run into some pretty good people all over the place.
Most of the time everybody's pretty good but there's always one somewhere..
I had a guy in Georgia not too long ago tell me I was too stupid to drive truck when I kept insisting that he had to provide me with customs doc's.
He said they were "at the border".
I say "what border"
He says "you know, the border".
He called me an idiot again so I called the broker and told him I was leaving the freight.
I grabbed my handjack and put his skids back on his dock and told him to have a nice day.
This particular guy was so ignorant that I didn't even get mad about it.
There's always one in every crowd but usually for every bad one there's ten good one's.
Life's too short to sweat the small stuff.

This particular guy was so ignorant that I didn't even get mad about it.

LMAO-gotta remember that one.
I wouldn't mind running around Hay River for a steady haul-I imagine it's booming also? Hunt used to run up there Steady from TX. during the Boom.
I don't know if you remember but during the Stampede in the 80's Molsons went on strike and NOBODY could get beer? I was trying SO HARD to figure a way to get a load of beer across the Border. If I could have pulled that I wouldn't have had to pull another load for the rest of the Year :P Man, People were PISSED
Wyoming seems to be doing the same as AB. and is booming again and I guess they're screaming for people.
I think the only difference between you and me is I HATE LTL-tried it a couple of times and just couldn't handle it-It was bad enough having to pickup at 3-4 places for Produce in CA. :P

I sure do remember that beer strike.
We used to bring back 2 0r 3 hundred (no,I'm not exaggerating) cases each weekend for our friends.
We were the most popular people around.
BTW, Hay River NWT is booming bigtime too because of all the diamond mines.
There's going to be a lot more drilling going on up there too.
It's good for us.
All of western Canada is booming just like the old days.
House prices have gone up so much around here that I couldn't afford my own house if I had to but it again at these prices.
Alberta is building a new road from Fort MacMurray to northern Saskatchewan just so people from Sask. can work in Alberta.
There are a bunch of big inch pilelines that are going to start soon down to you guys.
Alberta already ships 25% more crude than Saudi Arabia and they say by 2010 when a bunch of big plants come on line at Ft. Mac those numbers will triple.
The north around here will always be booming.
I think that's a good thing.
BTW did you ever get to Rosies bar in Enterprise,NWT across from the scale.

I remember Hunt, also C&H, Hill&Hill,and those green/yellow trucks.
Mountain ? Didn't Schneider buy them or something like that.
The late seventies and 1980 is about when the easterners in Quebec and Ontario came out with their National Energy program and broke a lot of people in Alberta including me.
That won't happen again.
The next time they try that stunt, Ontario will be the most westerly province in Canada.


Produce is just a nasty word.
I only allow 1 motor on the truck now and it's got to be in front of me.
I don't mind driving but when everybody tries to turn a person into a criminal because they didn't draw a straight enough line or dot the i properly, I just don't need the headache.

It's government regulations that have run the trucking industry down and there'll be Hell to pay when companies pass the costs along to the consumer like they should instead of stealing from a driver's wage to top up their bottom line.

When I first started driving in 1975 we ran tach cards in the trucks and got paid off our tach's by the hour.
That was in the days when people waved at truck drivers with more than 1 finger and I remember a lot of fun times.
Now thanks to everybody with an agenda we have to run around with one eye on our watch and one looking over our shoulder.

Allan, this is a long winded post but bear with it.

Take my word for it that if this law doesn't come into effect now then it will eventually, speed limiters on US trucks are inevitable. Also all the guys out there that are gonna be pissed at driving 65MPH should think themselves lucky your only limited 65MPH. ALL trucks of the member states of Europe are limited to 56MPH and have been for well over a decade.

Your first point regarding traffic not being able to bunch up is incorrect and here's why. Not all roads are flat, therefore trucks with lighter loads are going to catch up but not neccessarily pass heavier trucks. Also, these trucks will all be electronically limited by different machines in different dealerships, not just by the factory. The slight differences in these machines calibrations will be a slight difference in a trucks top speed. In my experience sometimes by as much as 5 MPH top speed.

Your second point would seem reasonable but drivers being drivers is a different story. Hypothetic situation for you. You're in a truck thats 2 MPH faster than a truck 1/2 mile ahead and you are lighter. You catch that truck up on a hill but and at the crown you are almost past him, now on the downside of that hill he is faster as the weight of his truck comes into play.....do you really expect I am going to lift off and let you pass because you are halfway down my trailer and getting further behind me as I am now going downhill and faster than you? At the bottom of the hill I could be a mile infront of you instead of behind. You relying alot on human kindness and I'm in a hurry I've been on the road for 3 weeks, the wife called and she's horny, I have blue balls and I'm an hour from home.....see ya!!! OK Im kidding but you get my point.

Your point about a 4 wheeler being able to play with a truck whether or not you have a speed limiter is completely correct.

NOW. During the last decade of speed limiters being introduced in Europe the real danger of the situation has been an increase of drivers falling asleep at the wheel and this has been suggested because they subconsciously feel that they are not making progress as they should be and the truck speed being limited to 56MPH has lulled them into a sleep basically through "boredom". Seriously!!!

It was not long after the introduction of speed limiters that drivers started refusing to work for "trip money" and insisted on being paid by the hour. It's common sense to realise that a truck that was travelling a distance of 1500 miles at 65 or 70 MPH is going to arrive and unload alot earlier than a truck limited to 56MPH. "Trip money" basically meant that a load from point "A" to point "B" had a set price/wage for the driver no matter how long it took to complete. Obviously this journey was going to take alot longer with a limited truck so drivers insisted on hourly pay.

As another interesting point these speed limiters are not infallable. They have been disconnected by European drivers since their introduction. Each time a new technology was introduced drivers found away around them. Firstly, as the speed limiter was electronically activated, the drivers simply found which fuse to pull and hey presto they were rocket man again. Then the manufacturers would put a vital component on the same electronic circuit as the speed limiter, say the fuel pump etc, then the drivers just did a creative piece of semi temporary re wiring and installed hidden switches to flick the speed limiter on and off.

The latest manufacturers trick was to hard wire the speed limiter into the vehicles computer and this stopped drivers being able to tamper with the speed limiter BUT!!!! As lot of European tractor trailers run "Maxi liners" with wheels lot smaller than regular sized wheels (The inside of the trailers have a headroom of about 8 feet but are still standard exterior height) alot of companies put the small "maxi" wheels on their tractor trailers, took them to the dealerships to have the speed limiters recalibrated as the smaller wheel changed the vehicles gearing. They would tell the dealerships that they were hauling "Maxi" trailers and then go back to their premises and put the regular sized wheels back on and pull regular sized trailers. Then that truck would roll along at say 64 MPH but the speedometer would indicate the vehicle was doing only 56MPH but the real beauty was that the tachograph ( A piece of paper that records the movements and speed of the vehicle for the last 24 hour period and used by cops to ticket or prosecute drivers for speeding) would also only record a speed of 56MPH and therefore the driver could not be prosecuted.

So the introduction of speed limiters might or might not be a good thing for US truck drivers. If it initiates drivers being paid by the hour instead of the mile that would mean that if your stuck in heavy traffic your earning the same as if you were barrelling down the interstate at 70MPH but on the other hand, you obviously cant cover the same distance in the same time at a slower speed so home time could be affected.

Whatever happens IMO speed limiters are inevitable in the US.....to us drivers they are a pain in the arse but to the DOT, politicians and safety groups they are "progress" and " modern Safety technology" and the opinion of the humble driver won't mean diddly squat to their redearch results.

As a footnote, when they came into effect in Europe way back when I personally saw it as an end of an era, and it was just that BUT!! It wasn't an "end" period.

As they have in Europe since the day they were introduced. :wink:

If its just points!!!! If you tamper with the limiter in France, Belgium, Spain and Italy (I believe) you get a mandatory prison stretch for minimum of 30 days whether you are a citizen of that country or not and after that (and as punichment for the offence of tempering in Britain) you lose your CDL and have to retake the whole training process again to get it back but only after a period of 1 year.

The next time they try that stunt, Ontario will be the most westerly province in Canada.

LOL

What studies have been done regarding safety in Europe?

Does anyone have any links?

Wot might be able to get that info for you.

Now what I think should happen if the government wants to do something about speed and if they want to figure in driver fatigue. The federal government should step in and say that the speed limit on the inerstates are going to be 75 mph since MOST average drivers run 75 out in the country anyway. Then tell all the companies that the trucks must be able to run the speed limit.

Now think of it like this drivers would feel like they are getting where they need to be, traffic would flow better, and trucks would still get some sort of fuel mileage. The fuel mileage would not be as good as if they were doing 68 but it would still be acceptable, and the companies could give a reasonable bonus for driving slower and getting better fuel mileage. But it would have to be a bonus that is going to make a difference in the drivers check.

Now there are some parts of the trucking world that it seems that no matter what speed you drive, you are not going to get any sort of fuel mileage, like OD and car haulers. I think the best mileage I have got with my truck hauling a load of cars is 4.5 and that was because at night I shut the truck down and plug into Idle-aire.

But I think if they did this it would be better for everyone.

Thats the problem. If fuel mileage is their "stealth" major concern and not safety then the speed limiter is definately going to be introduced. European trucks are averaging 9mph when limited to 56MPH and I'm talking 500hp 6 cyl motors ..the big 600's hp twin turbo V8 motors are getting between 7.5 and 8.5 depending on loads and lead foot. Bear in mind also that this improvement in fuel mileage is obtained with slab fronted cabovers and not conventionals.

The lobby bodies might claim that they want speed limiters for safety but there's no doubt in my mind that a great many of them have fuel mileage as their main concern.